Quote Originally Posted by StraightSix
Really?? Tell me, please, exactly which portions of my post were in any way wrong. From where I'm sitting, you've made an empty accusation since you're unable to justify your opinion. Heaven forbid someone understands the theory behind why and how an engine runs. Perhaps my tone was a bit snide, but the facts remain; anyone who can read and knows a little math can very easily corroborate the information I've presented. So, until you can refute, intelligently, what I've presented don't criticize what I have to say.
stoic means nothing for modified car. and even for a stock car it still means really nothing. for a stock car thats usually where idle is. but idle usualy goes rich then lean so the cats can perform. and yes stoic is where air and fuel combusts to produce the least amount of emissions. but since it goes rich and lean the nox and co go up and down. now with a cat the nox and co are lowered due to the rich/lean change of idle. now for power you never ever use stoic for a tune other than idle.

power for n/a is usualy from the high 12s to the mid 13 a/f. it all depends on the engine and what the specific engine likes. which you will only know if you tune on a dyno to find out where the power is. now for boosted cars the a/f is usualy much richer for safety reasons. which are usualy form the 11s to the low 12s like i said depends on what the engine is and what it likes and where it makes power. but usually tuners go for a richer a/f to save the motor.

like one guy said before you tune a boosted car to a 14.7 stoic that motor will
1: not make any power
2: pop real quick
3: not run

even for a n/a motor 14.7 is not going to yeild you any power. just extremely high EGTs. so there i back up what i say. if you want talk more be my guest ive been in the aftermarket area on the tuning and building said for more than 3 years. may have heard of the shop. Forged Performance