Since Saddam Is Set To Die Within 30 Days....

I wouldn't waste the money or my time. I have better things to do.

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Originally Posted by NSCredondo

Not a possibility. The reason why we have the death penalty is to get rid of a "monster" I guess you could call it. So if we killed that person the same way he killed, then whoever had toi kill him would be no less a monster than he is. Am I correct.

Example. Say one man takes another man he is angry at and ties him to the back of his truck and drags him through the desert and kills him. And say he gets the death penalty for it. Now the reason he got the death penalty was for the crime he committed and for being an unsafe person. Now if he was killed in the same way, the person driving the car would be the same thing he is...a monster. Just my :2cents:

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Well damn you took all the fun out of my idea!! LOL

So are you saying the person who pulls the switch on the chair is a monster? Or the guy who gives the lethal injection? Killing someone on death row is giving them payback for what they did, so why should it be so humane and pain free when the ones they killed didnt get that respect? Ya see this is why we have so many killers, etc on the loose, they have no fear of what will happen when they get caught.

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Originally Posted by RaNdomGuy

i was gonna argue in this thread but i see hvy arms took care of it... he's right for the most part... Saddam actually wasn't that bad of a guy, and he wasn't even THAT TERRIBLE as a leader, of course he was mad indulgent, etc... but as far as the country goes he wasnt bad (NOT ACCORDING TO THE NEWS) The "genocide" he committed when he gassed those ppl was to save his own ass as they were conspiring to overthrow him... Shit...

half of you are bandwagoning it... the other half are just misinformed/ watch the "fair and balanced" news too much.

Anyways ... I think its wrong but I WOULD want to see it haha just bc i'm a sick ass mofo.

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correction ? was it his government that tried him not ours? so that means they can do whatver they decied to do with him anyway. his pple cant let him go he still has followers and shit so i assume its either he dies or rots ( sad to say in a way)

i wouldnt watch it. i think its stupid to put it public...pple freak out about one fuckin titty showin to the world for an actual second. why is it NOT inappropriate to broadcast someones death? i think america is twisted in many way. but "ITS THE AMERICAN WAY"

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Originally Posted by AE86 Dorifto

Hmm....... I can't tell if you're joking or just a dumbass........ That's why he set up torture rooms to kill people in the least humane way possible and raped women. He just wanted to save his own ass. Right?

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shut the fuck up... its you who doesnt know wtf is in the koolaid.

while on the subject of torture, um... Is it any different from what the US is doing right now? Blatant disregard of the Geneva Conventions.
The Fuckin US is outsourcing torture work. Like last year when the US kidnapped that one canadian mofo who had a stop in NY on one of his flights, sent him to some Middle Eastern Country like Jordan or Turkey to be tortured/interrogated..
Our own civil rights are being fuckin intruded upon.
The CIA does the same with fuckin "black sites" little depots where they send people in, FUCK THEM UP FAR WORSE THAN SADDAM EVER DID, and to a much larger scale.... and if they survive and no more answers can come about, kill them.... or they're probably still detained if they survive.... But of course you wont find this on your Fox News.
Then you wanna talk about hanging Saddam for "torture"... .Wtf? If that was the case, then I bet all of the high ranking players in our very own gov't would be gone.... as well as the shadow gov't too.

The fuckin rendition policy by far pwns All of Saddams wrong doings.

i want front row seats hell i would try to video tape it as well

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Originally Posted by §treet_§peed

i want front row seats hell i would try to video tape it as well

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and after he's hung Gallager can smash his head with the Sledge-O-Matic and we can cover up with sheets of plastic :lmfao: :cheers:

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Originally Posted by {X}Echo419

and after he's hung Gallager can smash his head with the Sledge-O-Matic and we can cover up with sheets of plastic :lmfao: :cheers:

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Now that cracked my ass up

It should be pay-per-view, and all the proceeds should go to the children of soldiers killed in Iraq

HELL YESS!!!!

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Originally Posted by civic95

It should be pay-per-view, and all the proceeds should go to the children of soldiers killed in Iraq

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Even better idea

damn i didnt think this would get this long

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Originally Posted by b18hatch

damn i didnt think this would get this long

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That's what She said! :lmfao:

Kill that BIATCH!

I'd rather not watch it, but who knows.

after i video tape it from the front row imma make bootleg copies of it and sell it on ebay

i thkn we should keep him alive and torture the crap out of him

blowtorch and plyers come to mind

I agree with transam....why kill him? he's old...you just put him in a cell deep underground and never let him see the light of day in a small padded room and it won't take long for him to go insane and start eating his own poop.

Well the fact is, we should have no say what so ever in how or where he dies. Yes we found him, but trying to build a govt over there is our goal, and by letting their courts trial him, we also should let them do their own means of capital punishment. But on saying that making it public and hanging or fire line would be nice for our American egos, but it wouldnt make the smartest strategic standpoint. A open air in public killing wold just bring mass hysteria and give the Taliban or any terror group to much of a easy target. So honestly lethal injection in a secured chamber or hold cell, would be the best thing. Also by lethal injection it would somewhat show the world that they are moving on with society and not backwards, since it is more seen as humane and "just"

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Originally Posted by HEATON

Well the fact is, we should have no say what so ever in how or where he dies. Yes we found him, but trying to build a govt over there is our goal, and by letting their courts trial him, we also should let them do their own means of capital punishment. But on saying that making it public and hanging or fire line would be nice for our American egos, but it wouldnt make the smartest strategic standpoint. A open air in public killing wold just bring mass hysteria and give the Taliban or any terror group to much of a easy target. So honestly lethal injection in a secured chamber or hold cell, would be the best thing. Also by lethal injection it would somewhat show the world that they are moving on with society and not backwards, since it is more seen as humane and "just"

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I don't think we could make the "Taliban" or "Al-Quedia" hate us anymore. they already want to wipe out western culture and make islam the 1 world religon/law. :2cents:

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Originally Posted by HEATON

Well the fact is, we should have no say what so ever in how or where he dies. Yes we found him, but trying to build a govt over there is our goal, and by letting their courts trial him, we also should let them do their own means of capital punishment. But on saying that making it public and hanging or fire line would be nice for our American egos, but it wouldnt make the smartest strategic standpoint. A open air in public killing wold just bring mass hysteria and give the Taliban or any terror group to much of a easy target. So honestly lethal injection in a secured chamber or hold cell, would be the best thing. Also by lethal injection it would somewhat show the world that they are moving on with society and not backwards, since it is more seen as humane and "just"

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you do realize you said we should let the iraqi govt handle this and do their form of capital punishment, and then you say they are moving backwards by not doing a more updated form of capital punishment.


The Iraqi govt should use any form of capital punishment they wish...we would only fuel more fire telling them how to kill someone....

seriously though, give it a day or two and you'll have americans who will protest Saddam's death saying it's cruel and inhumane....that's why I hate freedom of speech sometimes, even the idiots are allowed to talk....

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Originally Posted by CopyRight

that's why I hate freedom of speech sometimes, even the idiots are allowed to talk....

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Thats the downside

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Originally Posted by CopyRight

you do realize you said we should let the iraqi govt handle this and do their form of capital punishment, and then you say they are moving backwards by not doing a more updated form of capital punishment.


The Iraqi govt should use any form of capital punishment they wish...we would only fuel more fire telling them how to kill someone....

seriously though, give it a day or two and you'll have americans who will protest Saddam's death saying it's cruel and inhumane....that's why I hate freedom of speech sometimes, even the idiots are allowed to talk....

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Apparently you didn't read what I wrote correctly.. Yes I said, let them handle it, but I also said it would be BEST, I didnt say we decide for them how to kill him, I said BEST for Lethal Injection bc it would show them as MOVING ONWARD in society, bc it seems more humane.. If you have looked at other killings in that area IN THE PAST alot of them have been hangings from goalpost or shootings at public football games (soccer)..

Also, to the other post, I never said it would anger them more, I said it would give them an easier target if it was outside in a public area to attack. Yes I understand how badly they hate us already, trust me I have seen the bodies that come back from the desert almost everyweek for the last two years. Good point bringin up how they want Islam to take over the western culture. But they not only want the western side but all of the world, bc since it is religious for them, they will not win until all have converted.

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Originally Posted by HEATON

Apparently you didn't read what I wrote correctly.. Yes I said, let them handle it, but I also said it would be BEST, I didnt say we decide for them how to kill him, I said BEST for Lethal Injection bc it would show them as MOVING ONWARD in society, bc it seems more humane.. If you have looked at other killings in that area IN THE PAST alot of them have been hangings from goalpost or shootings at public football games (soccer)..

Also, to the other post, I never said it would anger them more, I said it would give them an easier target if it was outside in a public area to attack. Yes I understand how badly they hate us already, trust me I have seen the bodies that come back from the desert almost everyweek for the last two years. Good point bringin up how they want Islam to take over the western culture. But they not only want the western side but all of the world, bc since it is religious for them, they will not win until all have converted.

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who's to say how far behind or ahead they are on society? alot of people need to realize that we are not always right about everything...I mean...apparently Japan has technology on better lock down than the US in electronics and automobiles....China has always had a better black market than the US ever will, India has figured out to restructure and capitalize on outsourcing inexpensive labor...to say that we are far superior in culture or social status than any country is absurd, which alot of americans do...in some sense we are more messed up than some of the countries we provide aid for.

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Originally Posted by CopyRight

who's to say how far behind or ahead they are on society? alot of people need to realize that we are not always right about everything...I mean...apparently Japan has technology on better lock down than the US in electronics and automobiles....China has always had a better black market than the US ever will, India has figured out to restructure and capitalize on outsourcing inexpensive labor...to say that we are far superior in culture or social status than any country is absurd, which alot of americans do...in some sense we are more messed up than some of the countries we provide aid for.

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Ok for the 3rd time.. Pay attentin.. get this thru your skull..................

Ready? ready you sure??? Okay.. Here it goes..

LETHAL INJECTION = MORE HUMANE.. MORE HUMANE= MORE CIVILIZED....

In conclusion... No one (yes I said no one!!) can argue that Giving someone a shot, that ends all nervous systems then kills someone (AKA Lethal Injection) is NOT more advance as far as capital punishment then Hanging them from a post in a crowded arena during halftime of a soccer game, and shooting them (after they have choked to death) with a AK47 several times!!!

Now to correct you on the rest of your post.. Korea has WAY more technological advances then Japan, here is actually where the majority of electronics are invented then (since it is cheaper) are produced in Japan/China... Better Black market? Umm A blackmarket isnt really a good thing, all that brings is more room for mafia and gang warfare bc of trying to smuggle and produce goods. India.. Outsourcing inexpensive labor? Actually it is Us as Americans are the ones outsourcing the labor to INDIA, Have you called any major company lately? Have you notice the phone rings to someone in INDIA?

C'mon now. Have you actually ever seen any part of the world?

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Originally Posted by HEATON

Ok for the 3rd time.. Pay attentin.. get this thru your skull..................

Ready? ready you sure??? Okay.. Here it goes..

LETHAL INJECTION = MORE HUMANE.. MORE HUMANE= MORE CIVILIZED....

In conclusion... No one (yes I said no one!!) can argue that Giving someone a shot, that ends all nervous systems then kills someone (AKA Lethal Injection) is NOT more advance as far as capital punishment then Hanging them from a post in a crowded arena during halftime of a soccer game, and shooting them (after they have choked to death) with a AK47 several times!!!

Now to correct you on the rest of your post.. Korea has WAY more technological advances then Japan, here is actually where the majority of electronics are invented then (since it is cheaper) are produced in Japan/China... Better Black market? Umm A blackmarket isnt really a good thing, all that brings is more room for mafia and gang warfare bc of trying to smuggle and produce goods. India.. Outsourcing inexpensive labor? Actually it is Us as Americans are the ones outsourcing the labor to INDIA, Have you called any major company lately? Have you notice the phone rings to someone in INDIA?

C'mon now. Have you actually ever seen any part of the world?

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lol...my favorite part is you act like you know the world better than anyone else....I've seen more of this world than you can possibly ever know, Africa, pretty much all of Asia, all of Europe, oh yeah....middle east...seen it.

You wanna bet someone will not argue over lethal injection? do you not watch ANY tv? anytime there is a execution with lethal injection, there are MASSES of people protesting outside about lethal injection

Again....who are you to judge what is more humane and more civil? what gives you or anybody ANY right to judge how another country does capital punishment? GET THAT THRU YOUR HEAD. Saddam actually request to be shot by firing squad...do you hear that....he REQUESTED it....because it's somewhat of a more respectable way to die in Iraq for a military figure, than let's say hanging...but he's not gonna get it.

Korea is more advanced than Japan? Hey bro, I know you are stationed there and all but you are seriously misguided on who is still a technological icon and has a higher status....

here, let's compare....

Toyota vs Hyundai ....Toyota, oh that's right...they created the hybrid motor that can actually produce higher hp output and enviromental friendly and 30+mpg
Sony vs Daewoo ....Sony...yeah....computers, laptops, tv's, dvd's, blu ray...I mean Daewoo is ontop of all of that :rolleyes:

I forget, aren't you enlisted air force?

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Originally Posted by Boostless

Incorrect. The deaths coming to civilians now are from insurgants blowing civilians up, We arent doing that. Saddam was killing people for 15+ years, I cant see how you think in 2 years we have killed more then he did during his regime. He killed them on the 10,000+ numbers.

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Although Cheney said shortly after the 1991 Gulf War that "we have no way of knowing precisely how many casualties occurred" during the fighting "and may never know," Daponte had estimated otherwise: 13,000 civilians were killed directly by American and allied forces, and about 70,000 civilians died subsequently from war-related damage to medical facilities and supplies, the electric power grid, and the water system, she calculated.

In all, 40,000 Iraqi soldiers were killed in the conflict, putting total Iraqi losses from the war and its aftermath at 158,000, including 86,194 men, 39,612 women, and 32,195 children


These figures just include the number of Iraqi's killed after the Gulf War. It doesnt include the hundreds of thousands who have starved to death since the Gulf War ended because of Sanctions put on their country by Bush Sr. Also, this number doesnt include the current Iraqi death toll because the war is still going. You think rebel car bombs kill more people than cluster bombs? Please

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Originally Posted by HvyArms

Although Cheney said shortly after the 1991 Gulf War that "we have no way of knowing precisely how many casualties occurred" during the fighting "and may never know," Daponte had estimated otherwise: 13,000 civilians were killed directly by American and allied forces, and about 70,000 civilians died subsequently from war-related damage to medical facilities and supplies, the electric power grid, and the water system, she calculated.

In all, 40,000 Iraqi soldiers were killed in the conflict, she concluded, putting total Iraqi losses from the war and its aftermath at 158,000, including 86,194 men, 39,612 women, and 32,195 children


These figure just include the number of Iraqi's killed after the Gulf War. It doesnt include the hundreds of thousands who have starved to death since the Gulf War ended because of Sanctions put on their country by Bush Sr. Also, this number doesnt include the current Iraqi death toll because the war is still going. You think rebel car bombs kill more people than cluster bombs? Please

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Damn!! thats pretty sad...

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Originally Posted by CopyRight

who's to say how far behind or ahead they are on society? alot of people need to realize that we are not always right about everything...I mean...apparently Japan has technology on better lock down than the US in electronics and automobiles....China has always had a better black market than the US ever will, India has figured out to restructure and capitalize on outsourcing inexpensive labor...to say that we are far superior in culture or social status than any country is absurd, which alot of americans do...in some sense we are more messed up than some of the countries we provide aid for.

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dude, China is Communist! it wasn't until recently that the gov't allowed people to own their own businesses. so by default their "black market" has to be "better". however you quantify that. :screwy: