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    Wow only 49% of IA is stupid lol...

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    was resurrection of this shit really necessary? at this point all it proves is that we have more dumbasses here on IA...

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    lol today is old thread day.

    of course the plane will lift off LOL
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    FUCK I MEANT YES
    Got a MINI? Don't talk to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruiner
    You mean a year and a half ago? It was shown on tv, if I recall correctly, Jan 30th, 2008.
    yeah, after everybody got shafted by them hyping it up then not airing it on the date everything said they were!!

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    and yet another mentality challenged member just voted no lol! *sigh* free spinning wheels people...f r e e s p i n n i n g w h e e l s.

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    The answer is no. if the planes wheels are going 200mph and the treadmill is going 200mph in the other direction it will stay still, thus not being able to generate lift due to the lack of air flowing around the wings...
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    Quote Originally Posted by fcman
    The answer is no. if the planes wheels are going 200mph and the treadmill is going 200mph in the other direction it will stay still, thus not being able to generate lift due to the lack of air flowing around the wings...
    LULZ you are a retard.

    maybe this dead thread was a good come back
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPOOLIN
    LULZ you are a retard.

    maybe this dead thread was a good come back
    Isn't the answer obvious?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fcman
    The answer is no. if the planes wheels are going 200mph and the treadmill is going 200mph in the other direction it will stay still, thus not being able to generate lift due to the lack of air flowing around the wings...
    The planes wheels could be spinning at 800mph and the plane would still take off just like it was on a non-moving runway.


    How do you suppose these planes without wheels take off?




    The contact area where an airplane meets earth has nothing to do with the forward motion of a plane other than a VERY small amount of friction. Airplanes are propelled by air movement, not what is in contact with the ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fcman
    The answer is no. if the planes wheels are going 200mph and the treadmill is going 200mph in the other direction it will stay still, thus not being able to generate lift due to the lack of air flowing around the wings...
    The question you need to ask yourself is 'why would the wheels be spinning at 200mph?'

    That will help give you the answer.

    It will take off.
    I got free clear tails with my ride.....

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    WTF 2006?

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    LOL!!!

    I love the example of the water plane!!
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    I'll make it even easier for you.

    Same plane and treadmill.

    Take an ax, chop the wheels off, and put oil and butter on the plane's belly mixed with some secret KY lubricant that prevents friction heat (Lab tested in Amsterdam on Hookers), to make the belly extra slippery allowing it to just 'glide'.

    Will the plane take off?

    There's your answer right there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPOOLIN
    LOL!!!

    I love the example of the water plane!!
    I was saddened to see even some pilots arguing with such a basic concept. Airplanes are not powered by the wheels, no matter how fast the conveyor is spinning the airplane will still propel itself forward and lift off just like any runway or airstrip.

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    The water plane one is easy...

    It won't take off, see. That the pilot is sitting on there pissed because he thought it would fly
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    Quote Originally Posted by fcman
    The water plane one is easy...

    It won't take off, see. That the pilot is sitting on there pissed because he thought it would fly

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    Quote Originally Posted by fcman
    The water plane one is easy...

    It won't take off, see. That the pilot is sitting on there pissed because he thought it would fly
    lol! Touché...almost.


    Now if this was on a conveyor belt the plane would not budge...and neither would the truck.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vWyTHQRIK8

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    btw, check what I voted 3 years ago....
























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    I forgot about this thread. LOL @ everyone who said "NO."
    Quote Originally Posted by speedminded
    I was saddened to see even some pilots arguing with such a basic concept. Airplanes are not powered by the wheels, no matter how fast the conveyor is spinning the airplane will still propel itself forward and lift off just like any runway or airstrip.
    x2. That's what got to me. Even the pilot on the Mythbusters episode was skeptical. It's crazy that people can know how to fly a plane, but don't fully understand how it works.


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    Quote Originally Posted by _Christian_
    x2. That's what got to me. Even the pilot on the Mythbusters episode was skeptical. It's crazy that people can know how to fly a plane, but don't fully understand how it works.
    Why is that surprising? People drive cars/boats/tractors/etc. without knowing everything about them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fcman
    Why is that surprising? People drive cars/boats/tractors/etc. without knowing everything about them.
    Yeah, because aspiring pilots just wait in line for an hour and take it around the block to get their certification.


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    Quote Originally Posted by _Christian_
    Yeah, because aspiring pilots just wait in line for an hour and take it around the block to get their certification.
    No, you're right. They all have to have PHDs in aerospace engineering...

    A pilots license is easier to get than you apparently think.
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    yes its easy but not nearly as easy as a license to drive across land.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPOOLIN
    yes its easy but not nearly as easy as a license to drive across land.
    That's not the point i was making... But you are right
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    Quote Originally Posted by fcman
    No, you're right. They all have to have PHDs in aerospace engineering...

    A pilots license is easier to get than you apparently think.
    The point is, the average pilot knows a lot more about aviation than the average driver does driving. Almost everyone has their driver's license. The majority of pilots, even with only their VFR, are at least enthusiasts. I'm not saying learning how to fly is hard, but harder than understanding basic physics. Your analogy was off.


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    Quote Originally Posted by _Christian_
    The point is, the average pilot knows a lot more about aviation than the average driver does driving. Almost everyone has their driver's license. The majority of pilots, even with only their VFR, are at least enthusiasts. I'm not saying learning how to fly is hard, but harder than understanding basic physics. Your analogy was off.
    I dont think if was off too far. I know pilots that have no clue how airplanes even generate lift.
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    ^^ I'm gonna call bullshit. I've been flying since I was 17 years old in CAP... and also for 8 years in the military. I find this HIGHLY unbelievable.
    "I'm not a gynecologist... but I'll take a look."


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    Alright, new question for debate. How do planes generate lift?

    Quote Originally Posted by BABY J
    I'm gonna call bullshit. I've been flying since I was 17 years old in CAP... and also for 8 years in the military. I find this HIGHLY unbelievable.
    Why is that difficult to believe? Because you know how they work and you are a pilot? That doesn't mean every pilot knows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by _Christian_
    Yeah, because aspiring pilots just wait in line for an hour and take it around the block to get their certification.
    lol try like 4 hours per certification

    i know the sarcasm

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    Quote Originally Posted by fcman
    Alright, new question for debate. How do planes generate lift?



    Why is that difficult to believe? Because you know how they work and you are a pilot? That doesn't mean every pilot knows.
    air flow over the wings.

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    Any of you pilots out there need any sheetmetal tools? Or need some sheetmetal work done?

    I have a full toolbox to sell off and I could use the cash if you need any work done.

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    What I find funny is Pilots saying "no". LOL.

    Anyone can put the time and money to learn how to fly and actually fly...but not everyone can design a plane and know how it works.

    49% of you need to shut the fuck up and go pick up a Dynamics book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
    Any of you pilots out there need any sheetmetal tools? Or need some sheetmetal work done?

    I have a full toolbox to sell off and I could use the cash if you need any work done.
    i dont, i dont have that kind of money to actually own a plane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
    Any of you pilots out there need any sheetmetal tools? Or need some sheetmetal work done?

    I have a full toolbox to sell off and I could use the cash if you need any work done.
    What do you have?

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    Quote Originally Posted by redrumracer
    i dont, i dont have that kind of money to actually own a plane.
    Owning a plane isn't the hard part - insurance/storage/maintenace is.
    "I'm not a gynecologist... but I'll take a look."


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    Quote Originally Posted by speedminded
    What do you have?

    Just about anything for sheetmetal repair. From Clecos, to countersink cages, to rivet sets and bucking bars. Honestly, the only high use tools I dont have are close quarters 90* and 45* drills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redrumracer
    air flow over the wings.
    *sorta*, but not really the physics behind it in its entirety.

    It's based on Bernoulli's principle if you want to know the scientific answer. Basically, a wing has a "long side" and a "short side" of sorts. The top part of the wing is longer (it is curved) while the bottom part is flat.

    As the wind moves over the top and the bottom, the wind moving over the top goes faster than the wind moving over the bottom of the wing. That creates lift (if you really want to simplify it).
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    Quote Originally Posted by IDCoconut
    What I find funny is Pilots saying "no". LOL.

    Anyone can put the time and money to learn how to fly and actually fly...but not everyone can design a plane and know how it works.

    49% of you need to shut the fuck up and go pick up a Dynamics book.
    Given the education level of the majority of IA, the responses don't surprise me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruiner
    Given the education level of the majority of IA, the responses don't surprise me.
    qft, and this is coming from a uga grad

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