Quote Originally Posted by lightspeed
Umm, thanks for the mis-quotes, but:
1. I said nothing about which skyline I was talking about. The r34 was faster in the list I saw.
2. I said nothing about "powerful" brakes, I said equal or better. I got this from a couple road tests that had 60-0 and 80-0 braking tests for the cars. Both the STI/EVO and the 911 turbo have very comparable braking hardware, including EBD, and the EVO/STI weigh less and should therefore have less overall braking requirements.

I got my information from this list, which I downloaded:
**note the relative positions of the cars I spoke about

BMW M3 GTR Schnitzer (11/2002) 7:12.25
Radical SR3 Turbo ( 7/2003) 7.19 (7:26 road tyres link???)
Porsche Carrera GT ( 9/2004) 7:32.44 (22.835km circuit)
TechArt-Porsche GT street ( 8/2001) 7:43
Pagani Zonda S ( 7/2002) 7:44
Porsche 911 GT2 ( 6/2001) 7:46
Porsche 911 GT3 RS ( 3/2004) 7:47
Porsche 911 GT3 Cup ( 2/1999) 7:49
Lamborghini Murciélago ( 6/2002) 7:50
BMW M3 CSL ( 8/2003) 7:50
Mercedes SLR McLaren ( 6/2004) 7:52
Nissan Skyline GT-R R34 (???) 7:52
Lamborghini Gallardo (12/2003) 7:52
Porsche 911 GT3 ( 6/2003) 7:54
Ferrari Challenge Stradale ( 2/2004) 7:56
Porsche 911 Turbo ( 6/2000) 7:56
Lotec-Porsche 911 Turbo ( 5/1998) 7:57
Nissan Skyline GT-R R33 (???) 7:59

That skyline time is "unofficial" because they removed the top-speed governor from it for the test. But, since the 911 turbo isnt limited, this really just shows what the cars are capable of.

Also, if you look at this excerpt of the race track results from the "Top Gear" TV show time-attacks, they show the STI and the EVO both ahead of the 911 turbo. If you have seen the TV show, the track is pretty techincal and relies on handling/braking more than pure power. Once again, ill bold the cars Im talking about:

Mitsubishi Evo VIII - 1.28.9
BMW Alpine Z8 - 1.29.0
Mercedes CL65 - 1.29
Alfa 3.7 GTA - 1.30.0
Subaru Impreza STI - 1.30.1
Vauxhall Monaro VXR - 1.30.1
Aston Martin DB7 GT - 1.30.4
Golf R32 - 1.30.4 -NEW
Audi S4 - 1.30.9
Porsche 911 turbo - 1.31.0
Vauxhall VX 220 turbo - 1.31.3

This is going tangental anyway. My point is that "exotics" dont necessarily hold any performance edges over well built tuner (or even "less exotic" factory) cars.
A. The Skyline R34 GTR was not stock. It was a special edition if I remember correctly.
B. The time for the 911 turbo has a "*" after it (which was surprisingly left off for some reason). The * dictates a note: this test was done in the rain. I have a video of the test to prove this. If it has not been for the rain, it would have gone another 0.4-0.5 seconds faster.

Lightspeed: the info that you posted was inaccurate.