Originally Posted by admin
dude it'll take pages of explaining.
this is all like being mad at the kid that could skip school because you couldnt do it,
ill come back later to keep this shit up.
Yes, it is needed and i support it.
No, i don't think its right
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Originally Posted by admin
dude it'll take pages of explaining.
this is all like being mad at the kid that could skip school because you couldnt do it,
ill come back later to keep this shit up.
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Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should. Illegals should get legalized and that kid should go back to class.Originally Posted by SpeedM0nkey
no it's not.Originally Posted by SpeedM0nkey
Who's rewarding them? This entire battle, and the point that many of you are missing, is for EQUAL RIGHTS. The same rights your great granny got when they came on the Mayflower! you think crossing a body of water and stepping foot on land that wasn't theirs was legal? People of other countries come here for OPPORTUNITY, its what makes this country such a great place to live - but with the laws that are being brought up, it makes it damn hard to live here EQUALLY. People are coming here in record numbers, not just from mexico/central america, and its not changing... GET USED TO IT. These laws many people are viewing as discriminatory, because it does target immigrants- fuck what ya heard!Originally Posted by admin
Maybe if you had family involved in the middle of this you'd have a different view, Mr. Mayflower![]()
Originally Posted by thinkfast®
for the first time, we agree.
honestly you fuck heads, it is an invasion on your country.. theres no other way to put it, but its an inevitable one. you will put up with it.
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An invasion you say?! To hell with the law! TO ARMS!!!Originally Posted by SpeedM0nkey
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Originally Posted by Ran Kizama
guerrilla warfare > americans.
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:diddy: WE AINT, GOIN NOWHERE.. WE AINT, GOIN NOWHERE WE CAN'T BE STOPPED NOW, CAUSE ITS IMMIGRANTS FOR LIFE
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bitch my family didn't come over on the mayflower, they came over from europe in the early 1900'sOriginally Posted by thinkfast®
LEGALLY!!!
what your not getting is there will never be EQUAL rights b/c they have NO rights... that would be like me asking for citizen ship in Japan right now. I wasn't born there, i don't have visa to work there, i just floated there in a boat... let me think what they would do... oh ya tell me to go the fuck home.
whoa homey, what you gettin upset for? my point is, unless you are NATIVE AMERICAN, you/your family are IMMIGRANTS (along with your parents/grandparents/etc..) YOUR FAMILY DIDNT COME FROM THESE UNITED STATES!! GET IT??
These people have no rights at the moment, but if they are going to live here, amke their life for them and their family here, why the fuck wouldn't they be entitled to the same rights as everyone else?? Pay taxes, buy a home, white picket fence and all that shit! Go try and get citizenship in a foriegn country if thats what you want to do, they wont send you home if you doin shit the right way... hell there are immigrants here that come from nothing, work hard and become a citizen, and are better off then a lot of "armericans"
shows you where theres a will theres a way I guess, eh?
yes thats true but there is a reason why we have boarders and immigration lawsOriginally Posted by thinkfast®
if we opened up the boarders to everyone the US would be full of billions of more idiots... i don't give a shit if your mexican, indian, african, alien... if you aren't here legally through a visa, etc... YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS AND YOU HAVE NO VOICE ON THE MATTER. i don't bitch about Mexican laws... why i'm not a mexican citizen.
I employee "Mexicans" and they are without a doubt the hardest workers i've ever had and the most loyal too.
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Worst example ever, try using an example that promotes something constructive if you want to change our minds.Originally Posted by SpeedM0nkey
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You act like you chose to be an american, and the mexicans made a wrong decision by choosing to be mexicans so now sucks for them. guess what, we dont get to choose where we are born.Originally Posted by admin
They seek a better life, stop giving them such a hard time. Arabs want to fucking bomb us, keep them the fuck out. And fyi, it is easier to win the lottery than to get a greencard as a mexican. They are good for our economy, they do pay sale tax on shit they buy. And do they really have rights? I bet they get all kind of harassament/abuse from white people all the time, do they call the cops? Nope, they cant because they are afraid of being deported. Do they get the right to vote? No. Do they contribute to the economy? Yes. They do more good than harm.
Its not about being American/Mexican, we're all humans, stop being so close-minded. In a century or two globalization is going to bite America in the ass, youre going to have to learn the metric system (oh no!), language, currency, everything will be standardized (its inevitable) , there will be no american/mexican, just all humans, better start getting used to it, because the rest of the world is.
Originally Posted by plv
OK...it is fucking easy to get a green card...I know plenty of people who have...My grand parents, friends, sister in law, and a couple of long distance cousin.....oh and a few mexicans friends....
The problem Paul is trying to express, the one who dont even try, should go back to Mexico, and even the Arabs who are here illegally, should fucking stay in their country..For some strange reason they are just focusing on the mexicans...Probably because there are more Meixicans, then Arabs....and other races.
Second, I honestly do not have a problem with this bill...The ones who dont pay taxes, and want to stay illiegal and drain the economy I have a huge problem with...Call me a fcuking racist I dont really give two shits...
But if we keep having illegals come over here...When we CITZENS get older we wont have SSI or medicade...so shut up you little shit!
grand prix.....
I mean, is the name calling really necessary? would you call him a little shit if I was behind him, along with 500,000 other mexicans that are in GA??? thats what I thought. And honestly have you seen what Admin has posted up? are we reading the same posts?Originally Posted by babygurl
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Originally Posted by admin
Originally Posted by admin
He's not saying anything about people who are trying and are in the long, drawn out process of becoming legal here, looks like its a general "fuck em, none of them belong here" attitude. Everyone's free to their opinion, and I doubt I will see Paul at a Latin nightspotOriginally Posted by admin
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Ok First off Ricky you a a little shit...but that is why we love you..and you are right everyone is free to there opinon! I didnt see the post in mention about the firing squard...and it that is how he feels, I am not going around him if he has a gun! LOLOriginally Posted by thinkfast®
The way I look at this, I support the bill...You can become legal, the people i know that have done it, said it wasnt that hard. I dont know from experience, i am just going on what i hear....so again i have not been in their shoes...But people who drain the economy its bullshit...Those types need to go home, and work on their own country! make it better!
grand prix.....
first off you need to watch your mouth heiffer! your e-balls are huge right now, but dont think you won't get checked face to face homegirl!! watch how you talk to people
fuk the rest of your post, I didnt bother readin it cause it looks like trash
adios
Originally Posted by thinkfast®
Chill the fuck out...You should know I was joking...sheesh dont get your E-Boxers in a twist! And if you would like ot speak with face to face then do it...I am not scared by any means! So again CHILL THE FUCK OUT! HOMEBOY! LOLOLOL
grand prix.....
why you talkin to me in that tone? you usin the wrong tone girl.. get your inside voice on, fo' I put your ass outside, dig me?
yea, like a shovel!
Originally Posted by thinkfast®
again chill out...
grand prix.....
chill out on what? we grown in here, and you tryin to call homeboy a little shit? YOU chill out
what just b/c i had the balls to say what 75% of the board had voted for makes me a bad guy. i don't give a shit some of my best friends are latino, and they are all legal/hard working/intelligent/assets to america. like i said before i dont' give a shit what fucking color you are, if your illegal your illegal.Check out these gems
I KNOW RIGHT NOW IF THE TABLES WERE TURNED AND IT WAS MIDDLE EASTERN PEOPLE UPRISING OVER THIS EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOUR WOULD SAY "WHO GIVES A FUCK" THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE LATINO CROWD TOO.
If you guys are so proud of your heritage why dont' you just go home. Its very simply. Its like 20 something year old black man complaining about how he is AFRICAN AMERICAN and America is racist. Dude if your born here you are American, if your not born here then your not. If you don't like the system here GO THE FUCK HOME.
nobodys callin you a bad guy mane, you need to get out of the corner your puttin yourself in
So because you came into this country illegally, this means you can't become an asset and an equal/harder working as the next man, who happens to be a citizen? When does coming here illegally make you less of a person? How ignorant of a comment is that, "if your so proud of your heritage go home" just because your heritage involves beheadings and massacres of countless indians, and you dont want to remember it, doesn't mean I or any other person of another culture/heritage, has to give that up. FUCK THAT. This is what your beloved United States was built on!! DIVERSITY!! You think if there were nothing but Europeans here, the US would be where its at?? HELL NO. You may have your own twisted opinion on this, but that isn't going to stop the people coming here - it's bad for business. I can sit here and tell you the same thing, but I forget, there isn't much for you to go back to, is there??
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ITS A CRIME. HELLO.When does coming here illegally make you less of a person?
this is where you are wrong. i didn't kill any indians and i didn't own any slaves, and WTF are you all up in arms about your fucking AMERICAN too. so if that is my heritage then it is yours, so look in the mirror.just because your heritage involves beheadings and massacres of countless indians, and you dont want to remember it, doesn't mean I or any other person of another culture/heritage, has to give that up. FUCK THAT. This is what your beloved United States was built on!! DIVERSITY!! You think if there were nothing but Europeans here, the US would be where its at?? HELL NO. You may have your own twisted opinion on this, but that isn't going to stop the people coming here - it's bad for business. I can sit here and tell you the same thing, but I forget, there isn't much for you to go back to, is there??
Just b/c you dont' agree w/ the law doesn't make it ok to break it. There is a reason ILLEGAL is the term used. Some of the terrorist from 911 were here illegally, i guess you think that is ok too right? B/c they have a right to be here like everyone else, they worked + paid sales tax before killing 1000's of Americans.
good point!Originally Posted by admin
grand prix.....
Thats where you are wrong homey. I am american born, of Latino descent. there's a difference. Yes, I am proud to be from a great country like the US, and yes, I enjoy the everyday rights I have as a normal US citizen, which other countries aren't so fortunate to have. But thats pretty much where it ends. I go back to Colombia, the place of my fathers birth, on a yearly basis. I visit Mexico, where my mother was born, on a yearly basis. Both great countries, with deep culture and even deeper history. These people here value everything they have, yet a life down there means so little. It's laid back way of living compared to the hustle that is the US. I appreciate it, I love it.. I am a changed man everytime I come back (at least for a few weeks, lol)Originally Posted by admin
I will never forget the struggle of my family down there, and I will never forget what my identity is and where my roots are. This US heritage you speak of, isn't what I'm about. In my family it started with me, I'm the first generation in my family to be US born (along with a few cousins). This law hits home, I have people that have came here illegally and are now in the process of becoming citizens. You telling me they don't have any rights?? that they shouldnt get that same chance that your grandparents got? a chance to live a better life??
please, explain
If they come through the proper channels, absolutely they should get every right and privelage a natural born citizen has.Originally Posted by thinkfast®
If they decide not to bother with it and live as an illegal - heck no. They broke the law of our country. You can't break into a car and say that you needed a radio and couldn't afford to buy one. You'd still get punished.
Unfortunately, the sad state of affairs is that the burocracy surrounding immigration is bullshit. They need to take a look at the system before putting new laws in effect. However, people coming from other countries have to deal with the same bullshit, it's not just a law specifically pointed at mexicans or people from latin countries. It just happens that I would think the majority of illegal aliens are from those countries, because most anyone else who wants to get to america has to take a plane.
However, my point is - do things the right way, according to the law of the country you want to live in, or don't expect to get any sort of benifit living in that country provides.
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naw, noone is sayin they should just be happy with living here illegally. thats not the way to go. whats fucked up is the way things are right now, and what they are proposing to do. Making it harder to become a citizen is only going to make more people STAY illegal, and more illegals not paying the taxes and such... its a lose-lose for both sides.
what are you talkng about there is nothing in the law making it harder for them to become citizens, the law i clearly set to make them go through the proper channels to become illegal or GO HOME. the law is being enforced where the federal gov't has failed. we are holding people accountable for commiting a crime. its that simple.naw, noone is sayin they should just be happy with living here illegally. thats not the way to go. whats fucked up is the way things are right now, and what they are proposing to do. Making it harder to become a citizen is only going to make more people STAY illegal, and more illegals not paying the taxes and such... its a lose-lose for both sides.
I said there ARE laws making it even MORE difficult then what is already is..
Couldnt agree more.... Fuck crackasOriginally Posted by thinkfast®
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So you're ancestors(Speaking in general to "americans") came and took a land that wasnt thiers.... That was ok... But "immigrants" come and work doin jobs most of you would never even consider... And that's not ok?![]()
So what happens if all these guys/girls that build your houses, schools, cut your lawns, clean ya guttas, ETC..... "GO HOME"?? Which one of u white folks is gonna cut my grass? :confused:
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Latinos are no longer the minority, we got buying power and we got NUMBERS. its happening, resistance is futile...
well that has nothing to do the w/ GA Security and Immigration Compliance Act, so i don't see the point of the arguement b/c no one ever said we should make it harder for them, but i do think we should make them follow the laws of our gov't as you or I do.Originally Posted by thinkfast®
If you didn't pay your taxes you'll be damn sure to get a visit form uncle sam in the future![]()
The GA Security and Immigration Compliance Act is only part of whats in store homey. If this shit passes, its downhill from there. How are immigrants supposed to follow the laws that citizens do, when the US is trying to make it damn near impossible to make that dream happen??? cmon, this aint no walk in the park, lets take a day off from work and go get my citizenship Paul. Its something you won't ever know anything about, so for you and people like you, all this is a debate, period.
Like you said earlier, lets turn the tables on this and make you that "illegal felon immigrant who should be shot by a firing squad", and see what your take is then![]()
I'm still with Paul on this one...Get legal or get the FUCK out!!..If you don't like our laws and your illegal you have no right to bitch and moan...Your not legal it means that you shouldn't have any rights whatsoever...And I know a little bit about how hard it is to get here from another country I had a uncle that married into the family recently and he came here from England...It was hard as hell to get him here...the only he is here now on a green card is on a work visa since he worked for Land Rover...They said it'll still about a 5yr process to become completely a citizen...Ya'll are bitchin because you want someone who is here illegally to have rights!! well then let them become legal and do it like everyone else!!!
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"jobs most of you would never..." Ya what jobs are those? I fucking cut my own grass, i clean my own house, what would those be. My father is a garbage man what do you have to say about that.Originally Posted by mp5o
Whose ancestors do you keep refering too? I may be fucking white but my family didn't steal and lands or own slaves. If you are born here or you are legal citizen you are not a fucking IMMIGRANT. You guys keep talking like you had to row a fucking boat to come here. That is fucking BS. You would also like to think the WHITE MAN is holding you down. What the fuck ever. Grow the fuck up and stop thinking everything should be handed to you on a fucking platter. THIS IS AMERICA LAND OF THE FREE, BUT IT DOESN'T COME FREE SO GET OVER IT.
*side note* my whole family is from MIAMI don't think we didn't grow up in a latino population.