Don't you guys just love four bucks a gallon for gas?

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Everyone knows that. LOL @ thinking Obama is some poor dude from the hood though.

I was asking for records showing where funds come from for presidential getaways.

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He won't find it because its not there.

Sinfix. Seriously. Why the FUCK is it an issue what Obama spends on his personal getaways?

1.Every god damn thing does is taxpayer funded. When he scratches his asshole, it is taxpayer funded. He is paid on salary by tax payers

2. Stop acting like he WASNT a millionaire before he was in office. HE HAS MONEY. A LOT OF IT. He's rich and will continue to be rich. Period.

3. Any records you DO find are an aggregate of EVERYTHING IT COSTS to move the president from one place to another. Security, aides, other staff salaries. The cost to start up and fly the most advanced jetliner in the WORLD isn't cheap. And it's a luxury EVERY president has. And going to nice places is something every modern president has done, and will continue to do. Period. It is a NON ISSUE.

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Originally Posted by Sinfix_15

Night ladies....... may the ObamaFairy not come and drone strike your house in the middle of the night while you sleep............................................. ...... BECAUSE HE CAN!!!!!!!!! LEGALLY!!!!!

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I hope he does so that I can finally be cool

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He won't find it because its not there.

Sinfix. Seriously. Why the FUCK is it an issue what Obama spends on his personal getaways?

1.Every god damn thing does is taxpayer funded. When he scratches his asshole, it is taxpayer funded. He is paid on salary by tax payers

2. Stop acting like he WASNT a millionaire before he was in office. HE HAS MONEY. A LOT OF IT. He's rich and will continue to be rich. Period.

3. Any records you DO find are an aggregate of EVERYTHING IT COSTS to move the president from one place to another. Security, aides, other staff salaries. The cost to start up and fly the most advanced jetliner in the WORLD isn't cheap. And it's a luxury EVERY president has. And going to nice places is something every modern president has done, and will continue to do. Period. It is a NON ISSUE.

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Common sense says.....

He spends more then he makes causing us to pay more taxes to fund those getaways.



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Originally Posted by E36slide

Common sense says.....

He spends more then he makes causing us to pay more taxes to fund those getaways.



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Seems like you have it all figured out.

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Originally Posted by simontibbett

Seems like you have it all figured out.

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No, but if out taxes fund his salary and he's over spending his salary that would mean an increase in taxes.

But oh well. Life sucks and then you die. Have fun watching the news. Night night

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Originally Posted by simontibbett

Well don't act like I'm some race car daily driving ricer who likes revving. lol

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Well you were the one that brought your "race car" into it. And I don't see how driving a stick has any more natural feeling than an automatic.

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Originally Posted by quickdodge®

Well you were the one that brought your "race car" into it. And I don't see how driving a stick has any more natural feeling than an automatic.

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I was saying I had a race car for the track to help with my need for a manual. Not sure why you put it in parenthesis though. lol

My opinion and MANY MANY others are automatics lack driver to car communication. There's more driving freedom with a manual, that's a fact.

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I was saying I had a race car for the track to help with my need for a manual. Not sure why you put it in parenthesis though. lol

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I don't believe the conversation was about non-street cars. And I didn't put it in parenthesis. It's in quotations.

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My opinion and MANY MANY others are automatics lack driver to car communication. There's more driving freedom with a manual, that's a fact.

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Lolol @ contradictions. Although the first part of this contradiction is more true than the latter part.

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I don't believe the conversation was about non-street cars. And I didn't put it in parenthesis. It's in quotations.



Lolol @ contradictions. Although the first part of this contradiction is more true than the latter part.

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I realized I wrote parenthesis right before you caught it. lol I am speaking of street cars, but was saying I'd still have two manuals.

What am I contradicting?

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but was saying I'd still have two manuals.

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Not street cars, you don't.

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What am I contradicting?

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First you state your opinion and then say it's a fact. Which, of course, would not be correct as there is no single source to back up that claim. That is strictly opinionated.

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Now you see how I feel, sir.

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He won't find it because its not there.

Sinfix. Seriously. Why the FUCK is it an issue what Obama spends on his personal getaways?

1.Every god damn thing does is taxpayer funded. When he scratches his asshole, it is taxpayer funded. He is paid on salary by tax payers

2. Stop acting like he WASNT a millionaire before he was in office. HE HAS MONEY. A LOT OF IT. He's rich and will continue to be rich. Period.

3. Any records you DO find are an aggregate of EVERYTHING IT COSTS to move the president from one place to another. Security, aides, other staff salaries. The cost to start up and fly the most advanced jetliner in the WORLD isn't cheap. And it's a luxury EVERY president has. And going to nice places is something every modern president has done, and will continue to do. Period. It is a NON ISSUE.

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Costs Obama 1.4 Billion a year to move around from one place to another. Cost the queen of england 58 million.

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Costs Obama 1.4 Billion a year to move around from one place to another. Cost the queen of england 58 million.

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Doesn't cost 1.4 billion

Taxpayers spent $1.4 billion on Obama family last year | The Daily Caller

Lets see how big that number is during a NON campaign year.

And yes. Taxpayers subsidize campaigns. This is not news. Stop checking the little box that asks you to donate more during tax time.

Just posting a link showing news on where he got that number.

I miss my D16y7 Civic. I used to get 40-45 mpg on the hwy and around 35 in the city. Slow as balls really, but hella cheap on gas lol.

O, and didn't you guys know, Uncle Sam has to get his hard earned share of your money regardless of what it's from.

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Just posting a link showing news on where he got that number.

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I'm just saying, I'm sort of skeptical on that number, but it wouldn't surprise me, nor would I try and blame Obama for it since he pretty much has nothing to do with it. Staff salaries go up, gas to fly a plane goes up. I'm sure any given president travels twice as much on a campaign year than a non campaign year. And I'm definitely sure a US president travels exponentially more than the Queen of England.

Out of my whole manual vs automatic debate...

....I just bought an automatic. :lmfao:

I wonder how much the previous president spent on vacation getaways? Hmmmmm

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I'm just saying, I'm sort of skeptical on that number, but it wouldn't surprise me, nor would I try and blame Obama for it since he pretty much has nothing to do with it. Staff salaries go up, gas to fly a plane goes up. I'm sure any given president travels twice as much on a campaign year than a non campaign year. And I'm definitely sure a US president travels exponentially more than the Queen of England.

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arguing with you is starting to lose its entertainment value. I'm beginning to become saddened at how severe your denial is. You want to like this president so bad that no fact ever presented to you will change it.

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arguing with you is starting to lose its entertainment value. I'm beginning to become saddened at how severe your denial is. You want to like this president so bad that no fact ever presented to you will change it.

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Did you happen to read the book it referenced with the fact in it?

No?

Sorry. I will always deny Neo-conservative views since 99.999% of the time they aren't based in reality.

TBH, I wouldn't argue with me either if I truly believed Obama was a socialist communist Marxist Kenyan Muslim with the ultimate goal of going house to house and collecting all of your AR15s.

Oh yeah. FEMA internment camps and Death Panels. Forgot to add those in there

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TBH, I wouldn't argue with me either if I truly believed Obama was a socialist communist Marxist Kenyan Muslim with the ultimate goal of going house to house and collecting all of your AR15s.

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I lold.

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Did you happen to read the book it referenced with the fact in it?

No?

Sorry. I will always deny Neo-conservative views since 99.999% of the time they aren't based in reality.

TBH, I wouldn't argue with me either if I truly believed Obama was a socialist communist Marxist Kenyan Muslim with the ultimate goal of going house to house and collecting all of your AR15s.

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It makes me giggle that you call me a neo-conservative..................

Define 5 characteristics that make a conservative a conservative, and then inform me how they apply to me.

Where's all of Obama's high school and college friends speaking out about good ole Barry Santoro and his non-communist beliefs?

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It makes me giggle that you call me a neo-conservative..................

Define 5 characteristics that make a conservative a conservative, and then inform me how they apply to me.

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Neo-conservative and ACTUAL conservative are two different things. You are not a conservative.

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Neo-conservative and ACTUAL conservative are two different things. You are not a conservative.

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Ok, so tell lay out 5 beliefs that make me a "neo-conservative"

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I don't drive a race car on the street or daily it. lol I daily a truck right now.

I just like the sense of control in a manual transmission,

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hell yea man
When you enjoy driving an automatic is the worst. Stick is awesome you can be in whatever gear you want when you want vs a computer trying to guess what you're trying to do. Sitck is also usually faster stock for stock since a lot of the time they put more aggressive gears in manual cars. On a side note though a lot of new sports cars with paddle shifters aren't too bad if I had to go auto.

Paddle shifters (real semi-automatic gearboxes) aren't bad at all.

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When you enjoy driving an automatic is the worst.

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Again, opinion.

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hell yea man
When you enjoy driving an automatic is the worst.

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This is sinfix level stupidity. For a daily driver in stop and go traffic on your daily commute home, nothing is worse than a manual. Well, nothing except a Prius.

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hell yea man
When you enjoy driving an automatic is the worst. Stick is awesome you can be in whatever gear you want when you want vs a computer trying to guess what you're trying to do. Sitck is also usually faster stock for stock since a lot of the time they put more aggressive gears in manual cars. On a side note though a lot of new sports cars with paddle shifters aren't too bad if I had to go auto.

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I would take my automatic car out around the town over my manual car any day of the week. shifting 5 gears with a stage three clutch just to get to 45 is more of a chore than fun to me.
I enjoy daily driving a automatic way more than a manual.... i don't see the point or need to have a manual just to get around. I don't need to race, drive fast, or rev at anything. Although, when the time and the place is right i love to drive my manual.

^^excellent point

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I would take my automatic car out around the town over my manual car any day of the week. shifting 5 gears with a stage three clutch just to get to 45 is more of a chore than fun to me.
I enjoy daily driving a automatic way more than a manual.... i don't see the point or need to have a manual just to get around. I don't need to race, drive fast, or rev at anything. Although, when the time and the place is right i love to drive my manual.

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Why do so many in here think a manual means performance car? lol To the rest of the world, automatics are rare. Manuals just keep me awake and provide more control, no waiting to shift. I can rev, drive fast, or race in an automatic too, it's the driver that does that not the type of gearbox in a car. lol

I can see the appeal of some if you do a lot of stop and go traffic, but I've still never been bothered with a manual in heavy traffic, I find it more enjoyable. Automatics make me yawn.

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Why do so many in here think a manual means performance car? lol To the rest of the world, automatics are rare. Manuals just keep me awake and provide more control, no waiting to shift. I can rev, drive fast, or race in an automatic too, it's the driver that does that not the type of gearbox in a car. lol

I can see the appeal of some if you do a lot of stop and go traffic, but I've still never been bothered with a manual in heavy traffic, I find it more enjoyable. Automatics make me yawn.

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Lolol, never mind, dude. You're mind isn't even ajar to this topic, so there's no point in debating it. It's all good, though, because we all have our preferences and that's nothing to come down on another about.

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Lolol, never mind, dude. You're mind isn't even ajar to this topic, so there's no point in debating it. It's all good, though, because we all have our preferences and that's nothing to come down on another about.

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If we all have our preferences why would you debate with me? lol

You can't debate my own opinion.

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This is sinfix level stupidity. For a daily driver in stop and go traffic on your daily commute home, nothing is worse than a manual. Well, nothing except a Prius.

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sigh

I never considered changing gears a chore. More like muscle memory in daily driving. I haven't live in Metro-Atlanta since 03 though...