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11-08-2012, 04:05 PM
Franco Tirador

Jadakiss and Jay-Z are about the only two that i can say that whenever i hear ANY of their songs, you are bound to hear nice rhymes/lyrics/metaphors, and for you Em lovers, yes his is capable of spitting hot lyrics, it's just that he does not doing ALL the time
11-08-2012, 04:15 PM
Sammich

i cant even read what you're saying
11-08-2012, 05:58 PM
E36slide

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Originally Posted by Franco Tirador

Jadakiss and Jay-Z are about the only two that i can say that whenever i hear ANY of their songs, you are bound to hear nice rhymes/lyrics/metaphors, and for you Em lovers, yes his is capable of spitting hot lyrics, it's just that he does not doing ALL the time

Lol he does it a lot more then jay z and jadakiss...two ppl i rarely see any music from. Jay z has a few decent songs while em has a few good albums....

Who's sold more records? Em. And jay z career has been a lot longer then ems. Damn that must blow being he's white and all lol

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11-09-2012, 07:38 AM
Sammich

Jay doesnt have metaphors?!?! LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ok i'm done
11-09-2012, 08:12 AM
E36slide

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Originally Posted by Sammich

Jay doesnt have metaphors?!?! LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ok i'm done

Who said he didn't?

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11-09-2012, 08:22 AM
Sammich

for you to say that Em has more metaphors than Jay...you havent listened to his albums from the beginning....only tracks i can remember that maynot have metaphors in it from Jay...are songs like big pimpin he did..in other word commercialized tracks
11-09-2012, 09:10 AM
Sinfix_15

I hate Jayz, never understood why he was so beloved.

What is the best Jayz song?
11-09-2012, 09:14 AM
Sammich

BEST? i dont see him having a best of all his masterpieces..but one that's a couple that i like:

Beach Chair - Jay-Z Ft. Chris Martin - YouTube

Jay-Z -22 twos - YouTube
11-09-2012, 09:24 AM
E36slide

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Originally Posted by Sammich

for you to say that Em has more metaphors than Jay...you havent listened to his albums from the beginning....only tracks i can remember that maynot have metaphors in it from Jay...are songs like big pimpin he did..in other word commercialized tracks

Em is deff more metaphorically inclined then jay z

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11-09-2012, 09:27 AM
Sinfix_15

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Originally Posted by Sammich

BEST? i dont see him having a best of all his masterpieces..but one that's a couple that i like:

Beach Chair - Jay-Z Ft. Chris Martin - YouTube

Jay-Z -22 twos - YouTube

Cant put my finger on why, something about his voice or the pauses, i just dont like him. I like some parts of some songs, but him as a whole i dont like.
11-09-2012, 09:30 AM
Sinfix_15

***puts on flame retardant suit***

am i the only one who thinks this was one of the best rap albums of all time?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...etti_Vecci.jpg
11-09-2012, 09:38 AM
Sammich

ayo quick question...didnt see DMX mentioned, i dont think..
11-09-2012, 09:41 AM
Sammich

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Originally Posted by E36slide

Em is deff more metaphorically inclined then jay z

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you have not LISTENED to Jay-Z

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Originally Posted by Sinfix_15

Cant put my finger on why, something about his voice or the pauses, i just dont like him. I like some parts of some songs, but him as a whole i dont like.

that's cool, cant force anyone to like a rapper..IJS..a respect of his lyrics..it's like some people hate

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Originally Posted by Sinfix_15

***puts on flame retardant suit***

am i the only one who thinks this was one of the best rap albums of all time?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...etti_Vecci.jpg

i never heard that album, but i do believe Ja did have some good records so i cant knock it...as far as best...i duno lol
11-09-2012, 09:46 AM
Sinfix_15

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Originally Posted by Sammich

i never heard that album, but i do believe Ja did have some good records so i cant knock it...as far as best...i duno lol

What??????
What?!?!?!
http://img-cache.cdn.gaiaonline.com/...461c9a590d.jpg
11-09-2012, 09:48 AM
Sinfix_15

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...txoTjqNf0#t=2s
11-09-2012, 09:50 AM
Sammich

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploa...a-simpsons.gif
11-09-2012, 10:49 AM
E36slide

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Originally Posted by Sammich

you have not LISTENED to Jay-Z

that's cool, cant force anyone to like a rapper..IJS..a respect of his lyrics..it's like some people hate

i never heard that album, but i do believe Ja did have some good records so i cant knock it...as far as best...i duno lol

I've listened to his stuff....

Recovery>blue print and all his other jigga man crap

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11-09-2012, 11:09 AM
Sammich

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
11-09-2012, 11:33 AM
Sinfix_15

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Originally Posted by E36slide

I've listened to his stuff....

Recovery>blue print and all his other jigga man crap

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I agree.... Jayz is not worthy of comparison to Eminem. I know Jayz is regarded as one of rap's royalty, but i have never understood the praise.
11-09-2012, 11:37 AM
Sinfix_15

Just to add some more fuel to this debate... here's a random article ranking rappers... again, high praise for jayz.... what do you think about this list?

The 50 Greatest Rappers of All Time | HipHop365.com
11-09-2012, 11:40 AM
Sammich

1st off...lil wayne recently..doesnt deserve to be on that list...dedication 2..maybe 3 and before, yea.

other than that...that's a pretty damn worthy list, i'll let it fly.
11-09-2012, 11:42 AM
BanginJimmy

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Originally Posted by Sammich

to top it off, they ended up being hits. then his battles...dear lord!!!! Em is a monster that every hip hop artist and rapper highly respects and realizes if you battle him, you better come correct. Jay and Nas arent necessarily battle rappers, as their battle showed, but Nas proved to be better at it....but if Nas and Em ever went at it...my $.02 is going on Em

Being white in an industry dominated by blacks, he never would have been seen if he didnt battle.

Someone post up the Eminem ABC freestyle. That was classic.
11-09-2012, 11:45 AM
l Gizzy l

dear sweet jesus lil wayne should NOT be on that list. He's hardly a rapper anymore....he just publishes anything he writes, and its allllllll been shit lately.

I agree with that list, feel Busta and twista should be a bit higher up the list, and DMX a bit farther down.
11-09-2012, 11:50 AM
Sammich

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Originally Posted by BanginJimmy

Being white in an industry dominated by blacks, he never would have been seen if he didnt battle.

Someone post up the Eminem ABC freestyle. That was classic.

you mean battle in the industry or when he was in the '8 mile' lifestyle?

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Originally Posted by l Gizzy l

feel Busta and twista should be a bit higher up the list, and DMX a bit farther down.

i dont think so...i've related more to DMX than twista and busta...personal preference tho
11-09-2012, 11:57 AM
l Gizzy l

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Originally Posted by Sammich

i dont think so...i've related more to DMX than twista and busta...personal preference tho

ahhhh fair enough. I just like Busta's flow, and twista is sharp as well. Cant relate to DMX :( ha and his style is uniquely aggravating
11-09-2012, 12:01 PM
Sinfix_15

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Originally Posted by Sammich

you mean battle in the industry or when he was in the '8 mile' lifestyle?

i dont think so...i've related more to DMX than twista and busta...personal preference tho

Relating to a rapper isnt always a good thing. I think rappers get too much credit for being "real" and not enough credit for being entertainers. Busta is a great example..... he doesnt have a 10th the street cred as other rappers, but he's 10x the performer as a lot of them. Most of his songs are talking about absolutely nothing..... but they were entertaining as shit. Busta was also a king of the now extinct music video era.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=AL94UKMTqg-9AIE5HbLkQZb_qWITOilyfV&v=GrghtXWfVYM&feat ure=play er_detailpage#t=180s
11-09-2012, 12:03 PM
Sammich

i dont guage a hip hop artist off of entertainment....that's like me saying waka is a great because he gets me hype in the gym............
11-09-2012, 12:10 PM
Sinfix_15

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Originally Posted by Sammich

i dont guage a hip hop artist off of entertainment....that's like me saying waka is a great because he gets me hype in the gym............

I dont judge rappers solely on entertainment, but i feel like not only is entertainment under appreciated in rap, its almost looked down on.
11-09-2012, 12:14 PM
E36slide

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Originally Posted by Sinfix_15

Just to add some more fuel to this debate... here's a random article ranking rappers... again, high praise for jayz.... what do you think about this list?

The 50 Greatest Rappers of All Time | HipHop365.com

What!!! Some of those i agree on except for ice cube. Also nas deff isn't the best over tupac or even b.i.g

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11-09-2012, 12:22 PM
Sinfix_15

stumbled across this browsing through some rap videos..... laughed my ass off.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=c8r9mOxqOhU#t=25 2s
11-09-2012, 12:27 PM
Sinfix_15

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=rKEqrQxH_Qg#t=83 s
11-09-2012, 12:50 PM
Sammich

if i want entertainment, i go to a certain artist, if i want lyrical, i go to another, etc. everyone has their nitch
11-09-2012, 01:18 PM
BanginJimmy

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Originally Posted by l Gizzy l

I agree with that list, feel Busta and twista should be a bit higher up the list, and DMX a bit farther down.

I was listening to Twista back in the early 90's when he was still calling himself Tung Twista. I had several "Chi-Bangin" mixtapes with a lot of Twista, Psycho Drama, Snipaz, D.A. Smart.

One of my favorite songs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug-_otAToP8

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Originally Posted by Sammich

you mean battle in the industry or when he was in the '8 mile' lifestyle

Both really, but mainly back in the '8 mile' times.
11-09-2012, 01:21 PM
Sammich

'8 mile' times is what caught the Dre...i dont remember Em battling too much until 50 came on.... Eminem's freestyles is what got me saying what i was saying
11-09-2012, 01:31 PM
alex14

Jay-z is my all time favorite rapper.
11-09-2012, 01:33 PM
Sammich

i used to say the same ^....
11-09-2012, 01:37 PM
alex14

I have no idea how Method man beat out Bun B or Snoop. Jezzy not even making the list is surprising
11-09-2012, 01:39 PM
l Gizzy l

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Originally Posted by BanginJimmy

I was listening to Twista back in the early 90's when he was still calling himself Tung Twista. I had several "Chi-Bangin" mixtapes with a lot of Twista, Psycho Drama, Snipaz, D.A. Smart.

One of my favorite songs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug-_otAToP8

Yes. Twista is up there in my book.
11-09-2012, 01:53 PM
Sammich

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Originally Posted by alex14

I have no idea how Method man beat out Bun B or Snoop. Jezzy not even making the list is surprising

i cant lie...this post made me lost alot of respect for you. as much as i like Jeezy, he dont deserve to be on that list, and method rightly beat out bun and snoop
11-09-2012, 02:06 PM
alex14

i've never been super impressed by what i've heard from him. guess i didnt want to listen to him more because of that. Jezzy deserves to be on the list much more than too short. that dude is a clown with no flow who got his fame by somehow getting the opportunity to "rap" along side of big names.

I like some E-40, but he does not deserve to be on that list either.

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