Driving: Right or Privlege

[DirtyMechanic]

Just as is says.

Just wondering how many IA people think that driving is a right or privlege.

After so many "fuck cop" threads its gotten me thinking. Does everyone that gets these so-called "BS tickets" think they are in the right. And have a right to do what they did, and not expect consequences. Like loosing their license and crying foul they have a right to drive.

[TheProfiteer]

It is a fucking RIGHT! Our modern, and most notably southern society relies on personal transportation to function. It may be a privilege for teens and college students, but fucking working adults in the south cannot survive without personal transportation. If the government wants to call it a privilege, and one that can be taken away on a whim, then gives us an effective public transportation system.


With that being said, repeat dangerous offenders should still be punished.

[GGPIS3]

It is a fucking RIGHT! Our modern, and most notably southern society relies on personal transportation to function. It may be a privilege for teens and college students, but fucking working adults in the south cannot survive without personal transportation. If the government wants to call it a privilege, and one that can be taken away on a whim, then gives us an effective public transportation system.


With that being said, repeat dangerous offenders should still be punished.

LOL at your thought process. if people obeyed the laws that were set forth to help protect us from one another, then there would be no need to take anything away from them. if you so choose to or accidentally break a law and are caught, it is what it is. you have to deal with the consequences of your actions. if that means you have a 20 mile walk to work, then you should have thought about that before you chose to live 20 miles away from work. in most situations, we all have many choices. the problem is that most people end up making the wrong decisions but do nothing to make it right. so when something else goes wrong, they don't look back at what they could have done differently, they just want to blame everything else for their problems.


the solution to the problem always stems from within. if you fix yourself, you will have less problems. its too bad most people don't think they need any fixing.

[Elbow]

It's my right to do whatever the fuck I want. Fuck cops. If you got pulled over Jesus for doing something so dumb it deserved a lecture and you got charged out the ass you'd be pissed too.

[DirtyMechanic]

It's my right to do whatever the fuck I want. Fuck cops. If you got pulled over Jesus for doing something so dumb it deserved a lecture and you got charged out the ass you'd be pissed too.

I did do my dumb thing. Now i dont. I learned. You havent, grow up little boy.

[Elbow]

I did do my dumb thing. Now i dont. I learned. You havent, grow up little boy.

I don't do things I get in trouble more than once either.

You still dress like a raging homeless faggot though and can't get a girlfriend to save your life so you're still doing something wrong.

[DirtyMechanic]

I don't do things I get in trouble more than once either.

You still dress like a raging homeless faggot though and can't get a girlfriend to save your life so you're still doing something wrong.

aww did i hurt your feelings again that you had to neg rep me again.... aww..... poor baby... jealous that im smart enough not to put myself into situations that can lead to consequences like what you had. awww. im sorry. maybe you should learn from your mistakes.

[Elbow]

aww did i hurt your feelings again that you had to neg rep me again.... aww..... poor baby... jealous that im smart enough not to put myself into situations that can lead to consequences like what you had. awww. im sorry. maybe you should learn from your mistakes.

LOL you've never said ANYTHING to me that even went into my head, learn from my mistakes, I've done that. You're speaking of the traffic violation which anyone on this site could have gotten. Probably not you though, you drive one of the gayest cars ever made which makes you a smart man.

[quickdodge®]

Of course it's a privilege. Later, QD.

[EJ25RUN]

The only time driving isn't a privilege is when you own the land you drive on.

So...

Unless you own an actual racetrack, build one of these in your yard.

[DirtyMechanic]

Of course it's a privilege. Later, QD.

yes i know that. but it just wonders me how many people dont know this when they get the license taken away for multiple offenses.

[thegovanator]

Privilege

[Kevykev]

Privilege! After all, it is something that you are Granted after proving yourself capable of receiving.

[Scotsman]

Privilege! After all, it is something that you are Granted after proving yourself capable of receiving.

couldnt have said it better myself

[STRteg]

Privilege! After all, it is something that you are Granted after proving yourself capable of receiving.

I agree as well,but I say a privilege and a right because it had to be earned in the fisrt place which makes it a privilege,but anyone and everyone that has gone through the proper measures and legally has the right to use personal transportation for the way it was intended not the right to break the law

[bdydrpdmazda]

I agree as well,but I say a privilege and a right because it had to be earned in the fisrt place which makes it a privilege,but anyone and everyone that has gone through the proper measures and legally has the right to use personal transportation for the way it was intended not the right to break the law

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[Kasper]

its only a right if your old. cause when you can't see, can't react quickly and shouldn't be behind the wheel of a car do insurance comp and the dmv feel its your right to put every other driver in your harms way. cause they'll just blame it on the teenagers and make there insurance go even higher!

[Andr3w]

Definitely a privilege

[stretch]

PRIVILEDGE.......

a few yrs back while living in NY i built me a 13:1 COMPRESSION LS-VTEC motor in my EK hatch. now this is about 5 yrs ago so i was the man then with that setup on the street. i went street racing that night without insurance and got caught, locked up and my car taken. on top of all i had my license revoked for a yr.
moral of my story is that it took something as drastic as that for me to realize that driving is a PRIVILEDGE

[sogood]

PRIVILEDGE.......

a few yrs back while living in NY i built me a 13:1 COMPRESSION LS-VTEC motor in my EK hatch. now this is about 5 yrs ago so i was the man then with that setup on the street. i went street racing that night without insurance and got caught, locked up and my car taken. on top of all i had my license revoked for a yr.
moral of my story is that it took something as drastic as that for me to realize that driving is a PRIVILEDGE

lol...

But yes, it's obviously a privilege.

[On_Her_Face]

PRIVILEDGE.......

a few yrs back while living in NY i built me a 13:1 COMPRESSION LS-VTEC motor in my EK hatch. now this is about 5 yrs ago so i was the man then with that setup on the street. i went street racing that night without insurance and got caught, locked up and my car taken. on top of all i had my license revoked for a yr.
moral of my story is that it took something as drastic as that for me to realize that driving is a PRIVILEDGE

No, moral of the story is you should have built a faster car

[STRteg]

privilege and a right,but a privilege first

[ironchef]

Its a privilege. Personally, I think the entire driving system in America needs a makeover. The driving tests are a joke, the drivers ed classes are a joke, and thus 3/4 of the drivers are on the roads are jokes.

[§treet_§peed]

I say a right. Like Theprofiteer said, without reliable public transportation how would the the economy survive? Today driving is needed so badly for a variety of different things. To go get groceries, going to work, going to pay bills, etc. I mean who the fuck could afford a $20 or more bucks on a taxi just to run to the store or other places pretty much every day. I mean fuck man, going to work coming back from work would eat your pay check in a few days. That's without including any other stops or errands you might need to take care of. Around here our public transportation is so wasteful and useless it's really sad and pathetic. Hell you would have to have a car just to get to the few stops it makes.

[DirtyMechanic]

Its a privilege. Personally, I think the entire driving system in America needs a makeover. The driving tests are a joke, the drivers ed classes are a joke, and thus 3/4 of the drivers are on the roads are jokes.

im soooo with you on that. and i think some of the fines and tickets are to lenient. especially with the way people get out of them with lawyers.

I say a right. Like Theprofiteer said, without reliable public transportation how would the the economy survive? Today driving is needed so badly for a variety of different things. To go get groceries, going to work, going to pay bills, etc. I mean who the fuck could afford a $20 or more bucks on a taxi just to run to the store or other places pretty much every day. I mean fuck man, going to work coming back from work would eat your pay check in a few days. That's without including any other stops or errands you might need to take care of. Around here our public transportation is so wasteful and useless it's really sad and pathetic. Hell you would have to have a car just to get to the few stops it makes.

its called you work around it. you move closer to work. you move closer to transportation to get to work. you change things in your life to live with your situation like everyone else in the world. you work around it. people do it all the time.because their privlege was taken away because of the way they drive. they didnt learn the first few times. so they have it taken away. just like when you are convicted of a federal crime. you cant own a handgun anymore... you dont see a lot people living in NYC working in LA and fly to work everyday. people live close to were they work. and when it gets to be to far or to hard. like not able to drive. they change their lives to make it easier and more financially fesiable to the person.

[§treet_§peed]

im soooo with you on that. and i think some of the fines and tickets are to lenient. especially with the way people get out of them with lawyers.


its called you work around it. you move closer to work. you move closer to transportation to get to work. you change things in your life to live with your situation like everyone else in the world. you work around it. people do it all the time.because their privlege was taken away because of the way they drive. they didnt learn the first few times. so they have it taken away. just like when you are convicted of a federal crime. you cant own a handgun anymore... you dont see a lot people living in NYC working in LA and fly to work everyday. people live close to were they work. and when it gets to be to far or to hard. like not able to drive. they change their lives to make it easier and more financially fesiable to the person.

What about the people that can't just move closer and/or change their life? Also, when did hand guns become a part of this discussion? Way to bounce out to left field.

[DirtyMechanic]

What about the people that can't just move closer and/or change their life? Also, when did hand guns become a part of this discussion? Way to bounce out to left field.

thats also something that can be taken away from you for doing a crime.

anyone can move or change their lives if somethng happens. its called america you have free will... you can live and work where you please. if your life get hard enough you can and will make a change. what ever it may be.

[§treet_§peed]

thats also something that can be taken away from you for doing a crime.

anyone can move or change their lives if somethng happens. its called america you have free will... you can live and work where you please. if your life get hard enough you can and will make a change. what ever it may be.

If you get enough traffic tickets you can be considered a felon did you know that? First you get the habitual violator stamp on your record that never goes away. Then when you get another traffic ticket the court will consider it as a felony.

[tdurr]

Only thing im adding a few cents too this because im bored.

but i must say there are a few traffic laws that are pure bullshit. via speed limit on the hwy. 55 is too slow.

[man]

I would say it's somewhere in the middle. Probably closer to a right though, in that they will really only prevent you from driving if you commit a crime. In the same way the government can suspend your other rights depending on the crime committed.

[blaknoize]

Well I know its a privledge but so circumstances apply when u become an "offender."
As myself with my suspended license issue. I do not believe I was suspensed fairly.
Being jobless for 3months and trying to hold ur finances together shouldn't make u a bad driver.
Simply put, I was jobless, uninsured, got a job 1day before payday I was stopped. Now I'm suspended for the year because I didn't have the funds to keep car insurance for a brief moment in my life.
It should count as a right during crisis if the circumstances ring true and just. Taking it because it "ur job" doesn't make much sense when the "offender" has no reasonable cause other than life.
Driving is what this country is built on, makes no sense to take a will, when there is no alternative, practical system to move those who run ur country/state/city.

[Lankhoss]

I think it all depends on what your general view of life and society is.

I believe that we are chaotic beings in a chaotic universe that were never NATURALLY meant to follow laws and rules. I won't go into detail about my beliefs here, but by "chaotic" I don't mean destructive and violent.....I just mean that there is no order to the world, and we hurt personal capabilities by trying to create order and limitations. In that sense, I believe we are born with the "right" to do whatever we please. The only limitations I should have on myself, should be the ones I ignorantly place there.

However, most people don't share my belief. I'd say the majority of people do believe in Christian ideals, Capitalism, or Democracy.....and in a lot of cases, all 3. If this is the type of thinker you are, where you believe there are both natural and man-made limitations that we SHOULD live by.....then driving is a "priveledge," along with a lot of other freedoms that we are "allowed" in our society.

[_Christian_]

Our governing bodies have decided it's in our best interest to have safe roads.

Some people are deemed too much of a hazard or risk to allow on public roads. It's in the interest of public safety that these people be kept off the roads.

Only allowing certain people the "privilege" to drive helps keep the roads safer.

[Ziptied]

PRIVILEGE! and its too fucking easy to get in this country.

[Evil Goat]

definitely a privilege....yesterday we were heading out to hit some power lines in the truck and there was an elderly couple beside us at the redlight waiting to make a left turn onto a major highway....we make the left turn and somehow the couple ends up in the closest lane of oncoming traffic, luckily there wasn't anything coming....i figured he'd get it in a second and would get over, but as we topped the hill i saw cars coming and him still in oncoming traffic so i swung my truck over into that lane and started blinking my KC lights on/off and slowed down in front of the old man until he realized what he was doing and got into the correct lane

[tdurr]

definitely a privilege....yesterday we were heading out to hit some power lines in the truck and there was an elderly couple beside us at the redlight waiting to make a left turn onto a major highway....we make the left turn and somehow the couple ends up in the closest lane of oncoming traffic, luckily there wasn't anything coming....i figured he'd get it in a second and would get over, but as we topped the hill i saw cars coming and him still in oncoming traffic so i swung my truck over into that lane and started blinking my KC lights on/off and slowed down in front of the old man until he realized what he was doing and got into the correct lane

u should have taken his fucking keys. i hate old ppl who endanger everyone eles.

[JDM_p00ky]

shoot after all the tickets and accidents i got.. and all the trouble.. and i still have my license??? shoot a privilege