Our Court System Is a JOKE.

**Elbow** · 10-28-2009, 09:51 AM

Just wanted to say how corrupt our court system is in this country. I've been fucked over by them twice now for reasons SO STUPID they're almost funny. They just try to pry every dime possible.

Months back I got a ticket for no proof of insurance while test driving a car I was looking at to buy. Not a big deal, I didn't have my card on me, but did have insurance. The car however was not insured or registered.

Well I went to court Monday for it, I went in front of the judge, the prosecutor took my paperwork showing proof of insurance (I got a printout from my insurance stating it was valid that date, my current card, and my policy with all dates listed and when renewed.) She told me to take a seat and she will call me back up after they verify it.

I was called back up to the stand and she said indeed I did have insurance, BUT, they said they don't cover that car. I said I know, I don't OWN THAT CAR, I was test driving it, she said well it still has to be insured. So how do you plea, guilty or not guilty. I said are you kidding? She said no. I said not guilty and was told to take a seat to setup a trial.

I went back up there, now flat out pissed. She's like if you take this to trial understand you WILL NOT WIN, WILL lose your license, WILL go to jail, and WILL pay a $1,000 fine. I said well how is this my issue, shouldn't the owner be charged? She said yes, technically both of you can. I said well where is he? She said he's not involved in this.

In the end I plead no lo and a fine. Stupid worthless piece of shit "law." This isn't the first time I've been fucked over either, this is a walk in the ball park to my previous sentence which was the equivalent conviction of raping a three year old then killing her.

**Njobe** · 10-28-2009, 09:55 AM

lol that's how it usually is... how else would they get the money to drive those nice chargers and shit lol

**DirtyMechanic** · 10-28-2009, 09:55 AM

mabye you should drive properly insured and regisitered vehicles next time.

**ilovemyhonda.** · 10-28-2009, 09:56 AM

That is the craziest thing I ever heard. How do you the test driver insure a car that you don't own and you are just test driving? That is the most ridiculous thing.

**DirtyMechanic** · 10-28-2009, 09:57 AM

oh simon why dont you tell the story of WHY you got pulled over in the uninsured car in the first place...

**Njobe** · 10-28-2009, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by DirtyMechanic

oh simon why dont you tell the story of WHY you got pulled over in the uninsured car in the first place...

**Elbow** · 10-28-2009, 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by DirtyMechanic

oh simon why dont you tell the story of WHY you got pulled over in the uninsured car in the first place...

Oh OK, um, NO TAG. Nice try to be a smart ass.

**DirtyMechanic** · 10-28-2009, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by simontibbett

Oh OK, um, NO TAG. Nice try to be a smart ass.

are you sure... i think i remember someone.. might have not been you. but someone saying it was at the gnett sonic meet. and you pealed out in front of the QT right there which in turn a cop saw and pulled you over for it? might not have been you, but i do remember someone doing this.

**Elbow** · 10-28-2009, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by DirtyMechanic

are you sure... i think i remember someone.. might have not been you. but someone saying it was at the gnett sonic meet. and you pealed out in front of the QT right there which in turn a cop saw and pulled you over for it? might not have been you, but i do remember someone doing this.

No, definitely wasn't me. I'll post my other thread if you like of me explaining the ordeal right after it happened. The cop was behind me when I left the guys driveway and pulled me over a couple of houses down.

**Hundo®** · 10-28-2009, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by DirtyMechanic

are you sure... i think i remember someone.. might have not been you. but someone saying it was at the gnett sonic meet. and you pealed out in front of the QT right there which in turn a cop saw and pulled you over for it? might not have been you, but i do remember someone doing this.

holy shit. this kids a bigger fucking moron than i thought. i hope you do lose your license simon. you tool.

**Elbow** · 10-28-2009, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by Hundo®

holy shit. this kids a bigger fucking moron than i thought. i hope you do lose your license simon. you tool.

You're so stupid, you really never even read responses do you? That wasn't even me. How could I lose my license? lol. Fucking idiot.

**SicStang03** · 10-28-2009, 09:57 AM

shouldn't asked for a lawyer

**S2KJD** · 10-28-2009, 10:00 AM

jeez how random and never would of thought such a thing could happen hhhmmm...lame fo sho

**punkr6** · 10-28-2009, 10:01 AM

i'm not understanding your complaint, you were driving a non registered, non insured car on a public road. How is this ok in your eyes ?

**Njobe** · 10-28-2009, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by punkr6

i'm not understanding your complaint, you were driving a non registered, non insured car on a public road. How is this ok in your eyes ?

it wasn't his car, he was test driving another persons car?

**punkr6** · 10-28-2009, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by Njobe

it wasn't his car, he was test driving another persons car?

that doesn't matter...

**Njobe** · 10-28-2009, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by punkr6

that doesn't matter...

if it's not his car he can't insure it so it wouldn't be his fault really.

**punkr6** · 10-28-2009, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by Njobe

if it's not his car he can't insure it so it wouldn't be his fault really.

you can't drive an uninsured car on a public road, no matter who's car it is. He was driving it, he gets the ticket...

**DirtyMechanic** · 10-28-2009, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by punkr6

that doesn't matter...

correct if you take possessions of a vehicle you are responsible for it. that means. regisitered and insured. maybe you should have asked before you test drove it... maybe you will in the future. help prevent this happening again.

**Elbow** · 10-28-2009, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by punkr6

that doesn't matter...

Uhh actually it does, if I have insurance, the owner should be charged not me. I'm not even aware or was made aware of it not having insurance or no registration, I called the owner of the car to the scene to tell the cop any of that.

**punkr6** · 10-28-2009, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by simontibbett

Uhh actually it does, if I have insurance, the owner should be charged not me. I'm not even aware or was made aware of it not having insurance or no registration, I called the owner of the car to the scene to tell the cop any of that.

you insurance doesn't cover you driving other peoples cars...

**Jason..** · 10-28-2009, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by Njobe

it wasn't his car, he was test driving another persons car?

It does not matter...my shop insures any car I drive I keep the paper work in my wallett all the time..sorry dude u were in the wrong.

**punkr6** · 10-28-2009, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by Jason..

It does not matter...my shop insures any car I drive I keep the paper work in my wallett all the time..sorry dude u were in the wrong.

**Elbow** · 10-28-2009, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by Jason..

It does not matter...my shop insures any car I drive I keep the paper work in my wallett all the time..sorry dude u were in the wrong.

I have the same coverage you do. So I wasn't in the wrong.

**collins** · 10-28-2009, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by punkr6

i'm not understanding your complaint, you were driving a non registered, non insured car on a public road. How is this ok in your eyes ?

are you joking? so by your logic, if you're TEST DRIVING a car that will potentially belong to you one day, but it doesn't belong to yo YET, its YOUR responsibility to put insurance on the damn thing for the 5 minutes you're in the car driving it around the block just long enough to gather enough information to come to the conclusion of IF you want to purchase it or not? sorry for the long ass sentence but thats just retarded as hell!

**Elbow** · 10-28-2009, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by collins

are you joking? so by your logic, if you're TEST DRIVING a car that will potentially belong to you one day, but it doesn't belong to yo YET, its YOUR responsibility to put insurance on the damn thing for the 5 minutes you're in the car driving it around the block just long enough to gather enough information to come to the conclusion of IF you want to purchase it or not? sorry for the long ass sentence but thats just retarded as hell!

My thoughts exactly.

**punkr6** · 10-28-2009, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by collins

are you joking? so by your logic, if you're TEST DRIVING a car that will potentially belong to you one day, but it doesn't belong to yo YET, its YOUR responsibility to put insurance on the damn thing for the 5 minutes you're in the car driving it around the block just long enough to gather enough information to come to the conclusion of IF you want to purchase it or not? sorry for the long ass sentence but thats just retarded as hell!

no, you missed the point..by law the car has to be insured if its on a public road. doesn't matter if your test driving it or if you own it, it has to be insured.....

**Elbow** · 10-28-2009, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by punkr6

no, you missed the point..by law the car has to be insured if its on a public road. doesn't matter if your test driving it or if you own it, it has to be insured.....

It should be yes, but shouldn't the owner be responsible for that? The cop talked to the owner about that and tried to impound the car. He should of came after me with charges other then no proof if that was the case.

**punkr6** · 10-28-2009, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by simontibbett

It should be yes, but shouldn't the owner be responsible for that? The cop talked to the owner about that and tried to impound the car. He should of came after me with charges other then no proof if that was the case.

you were driving a un insured vehicle, you get the ticket. the owner doesn't have to insure the car if he isn't driving it. But if you have extended coverage that covers anything you drive, like dealers do, you would be ok..

**CasadeWaffle** · 11-01-2009, 02:04 AM

Originally Posted by collins

are you joking? so by your logic, if you're TEST DRIVING a car that will potentially belong to you one day, but it doesn't belong to yo YET, its YOUR responsibility to put insurance on the damn thing for the 5 minutes you're in the car driving it around the block just long enough to gather enough information to come to the conclusion of IF you want to purchase it or not? sorry for the long ass sentence but thats just retarded as hell!

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Just because something is a law doesn't make it reasonable or valid...I mean if they outlawed alcohol would all you still hold the law in such high regard. Laws are good and necessary but in this instance simon should not be at fault.

**Elbow** · 10-28-2009, 10:06 AM

For those saying it's my fault and I shouldn't complain, the LAW IN GEORGIA is clear:

(b) An owner or any other person who knowingly operates or knowingly authorizes another to operate a motor vehicle without effective insurance on such vehicle or without an approved plan of self-insurance shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and, upon conviction thereof, shall be subject to a fine of not less than $200.00 nor more than $1,000.00 or imprisonment for not more than 12 months, or both. An operator of a motor vehicle shall not be guilty of a violation of this Code section if such operator maintains a policy of motor vehicle insurance which extends coverage to any vehicle the operator may drive. An owner or operator of a motor vehicle shall not be issued a citation by a law enforcement officer for a violation of this Code section if the sole basis for issuance of such a citation is that the law enforcement officer is unable to obtain insurance coverage information from the records of the department.

**punkr6** · 10-28-2009, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by simontibbett

For those saying it's my fault and I shouldn't complain, the LAW IN GEORGIA is clear:

(b) An owner or any other person who knowingly operates or knowingly authorizes another to operate a motor vehicle without effective insurance on such vehicle or without an approved plan of self-insurance shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and, upon conviction thereof, shall be subject to a fine of not less than $200.00 nor more than $1,000.00 or imprisonment for not more than 12 months, or both. An operator of a motor vehicle shall not be guilty of a violation of this Code section if such operator maintains a policy of motor vehicle insurance which extends coverage to any vehicle the operator may drive. An owner or operator of a motor vehicle shall not be issued a citation by a law enforcement officer for a violation of this Code section if the sole basis for issuance of such a citation is that the law enforcement officer is unable to obtain insurance coverage information from the records of the department.

do you have this extended coverage ?

**Elbow** · 10-28-2009, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by punkr6

do you have this extended coverage ?

YES. I already said that.

**punkr6** · 10-28-2009, 10:17 AM

Originally Posted by simontibbett

YES. I already said that.

then you got :idb:

**Elbow** · 10-28-2009, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by punkr6

then you got :idb:

Yeah well they're about to give my money back.

**Elbow** · 10-28-2009, 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by punkr6

do you have this extended coverage ?

Even if I didn't it would still be stupid, who EVER has asked for paperwork before test driving a car, especially around a neighborhood. The cop should have charged me with no insurance in the first place if they were going to randomly change it in court.

**Evil Goat** · 10-28-2009, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by simontibbett

For those saying it's my fault and I shouldn't complain, the LAW IN GEORGIA is clear:

(b) An owner or any other person who knowingly operates or knowingly authorizes another to operate a motor vehicle without effective insurance on such vehicle or without an approved plan of self-insurance shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and, upon conviction thereof, shall be subject to a fine of not less than $200.00 nor more than $1,000.00 or imprisonment for not more than 12 months, or both. An operator of a motor vehicle shall not be guilty of a violation of this Code section if such operator maintains a policy of motor vehicle insurance which extends coverage to any vehicle the operator may drive. An owner or operator of a motor vehicle shall not be issued a citation by a law enforcement officer for a violation of this Code section if the sole basis for issuance of such a citation is that the law enforcement officer is unable to obtain insurance coverage information from the records of the department.

i'm not even reading the whole thread....you are an idiot....you just proved yourself guilty idiot....pay your fine, have a coke, and shut the fuck up

**Elbow** · 10-28-2009, 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by Evil Goat

i'm not even reading the whole thread....you are an idiot....you just proved yourself guilty idiot....pay your fine, have a coke, and shut the fuck up

LOL um great post kid it makes no sense.

**Humphrizzle** · 10-29-2009, 05:23 AM

Originally Posted by simontibbett

For those saying it's my fault and I shouldn't complain, the LAW IN GEORGIA is clear:

(b) An owner or any other person who knowingly operates or knowingly authorizes another to operate a motor vehicle without effective insurance on such vehicle or without an approved plan of self-insurance shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and, upon conviction thereof, shall be subject to a fine of not less than $200.00 nor more than $1,000.00 or imprisonment for not more than 12 months, or both. An operator of a motor vehicle shall not be guilty of a violation of this Code section if such operator maintains a policy of motor vehicle insurance which extends coverage to any vehicle the operator may drive. An owner or operator of a motor vehicle shall not be issued a citation by a law enforcement officer for a violation of this Code section if the sole basis for issuance of such a citation is that the law enforcement officer is unable to obtain insurance coverage information from the records of the department.

This law states you must have an insurance policy that covers you on any car you are in.

My father has this type of insurance. Obviously you do not.

**DirtyMechanic** · 10-29-2009, 05:24 AM

Originally Posted by Humphries

This law states you must have an insurance policy that covers you on any car you are in.

My father has this type of insurance. Obviously you do not.

i know just posting this he owned himself. how stupid can you be. does he not know how to read.

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