"I'll be a high school drop out before I change the way I dress"...

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10-09-2009, 11:57 AM
x Resilience

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Originally Posted by Ed

beat the gay out of the child.

problem solved.

/thread.
10-09-2009, 11:58 AM
BluesClues

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Originally Posted by zspeed24

The rules stated no clothes that caused a disruption... Right?:thinking:

And how are they a disruption? Because a guy is wearing them instead of a girl? Is his nut sacks hanging out? Are his skirts too short? Are his shirts cut too low? Does he wear stripper shoes? If no, then I don't see the disruption
10-09-2009, 12:00 PM
TSiFTW

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Originally Posted by BluesClues

And how are they a disruption? Because a guy is wearing them instead of a girl? Is his nut sacks hanging out? Are his skirts too short? Are his shirts cut too low? Does he wear stripper shoes? If no, then I don't see the disruption

If you went to school with him you would be disrupted. Guaranteed. For christ sakes, we are talking about it on IA, you think it hasn't caused disruption. Get real.
10-09-2009, 12:00 PM
BluesClues

I shall continue to say, ignorance is bliss. I've argued my point and that's all I can do. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and I respect that. I just hope that when you all do something that everyone else does not agree with, no one will give you as much hell as this young man has received
10-09-2009, 12:01 PM
TSiFTW

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Originally Posted by BluesClues

I shall continue to say, ignorance is bliss. I've argued my point and that's all I can do. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and I respect that. I just hope that when you all do something that everyone else does not agree with, no one will give you as much hell as this young man has received

He got exactly what he wanted. Massive attention.
10-09-2009, 12:02 PM
BobbyFresco

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Originally Posted by BluesClues

What special rights does he think he has? The right to express himself through clothing without offending others? IT'S FUCKING CLOTHES! Get over it! Let GOD do the judging and stop trying to do his job. Worry about your damn self! I can't stand it when people feel the need to dictate others lives. Who said you were perfect? I'm sure there are things you do that majority of people wouldn't agree on. And I'm sure you wouldn't like it if those people were to make a huge fuss about what you do in your daily life. It just kills me how others are so quick to point the finger at someone else but can never point the finger at themselves when they fuck up. Maybe at the end of the day, you will feel better about yourself because the spot light and bashing has been towards someone else and not yourself. Feel free to rejoice that today you made it through another day without someone bashing you!

Your tangenial posts make no sense whatsoever.
I live a pretty conventional and normal life so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. However, what I do know is I'm not the one going to school, dressing like a female.

His behavior, in regards to his dress, is disruptive to the learning environment, further demonstrated by the fact that it has gotten the unjustified attention it has thus far.

Bottom line is that he can be as gay as he wants...Whatever. That I don't give 2 shits about. What I have an issue with is the fact that he should not be exempt from rules that would apply to any other student.
10-09-2009, 12:02 PM
AirMax95

I vote future sniper drag queen.....any takers?
10-09-2009, 12:03 PM
BluesClues

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Originally Posted by TSiFTW

If you went to school with him you would be disrupted. Guaranteed. For christ sakes, we are talking about it on IA, you think it hasn't caused disruption. Get real.

I personally (and can not speak for everyone else) would not be disrupted. I have seen my fair share of not so "normal" things in life and I have grown to accept and love others no matter how different they are. I was always the way I am now. I believe in fairness for all.
Oh and it has not been a disruption for IA, some people saw it as an opportunity to bash others to make themselves feel manly or whatever for the day
10-09-2009, 12:04 PM
TSiFTW

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Originally Posted by AirMax95

I vote future sniper drag queen.....any takers?

LOLOLOLOL
10-09-2009, 12:06 PM
TSiFTW

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Originally Posted by BluesClues

I personally (and can not speak for everyone else) would not be disrupted. I have seen my fair share of not so "normal" things in life and I have grown to accept and love others no matter how different they are. I was always the way I am now. I believe in fairness for all.
Oh and it has not been a disruption for IA, some people saw it as an opportunity to bash others to make themselves feel manly or whatever for the day

Really? You don't think if people all over are talking about it that it is not a disruption in his school?
10-09-2009, 12:08 PM
BluesClues

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Originally Posted by BobbyFresco

Your tangenial posts make no sense whatsoever.
I live a pretty conventional and normal life so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. However, what I do know is I'm not the one going to school, dressing like a female.

His behavior, in regards to his dress, is disruptive to the learning environment, further demonstrated by the fact that it has gotten the unjustified attention it has thus far.

Bottom line is that he can be as gay as he wants...Whatever. That I don't give 2 shits about. What I have an issue with is the fact that he should not be exempt from rules that would apply to any other student.

Ok, so let me put it like this. If his clothing style is seen as disruptive, then would a kid who wore bright and shiny clothing with all types of glitter and florescent colors be disruptive too? I mean if I sat behind someone and every time the light hit their clothes it would hurt my eyes, I would be disrupted. Would everyone be in a rush to kick them out of school as well?
Or what about a kid who has bad hygiene (I've been around a few) and everyday they came to school smelling like sweat, dirt, and booty hole, would they be threatened to be kicked out?
10-09-2009, 12:09 PM
BluesClues

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Originally Posted by TSiFTW

Really? You don't think if people all over are talking about it that it is not a disruption in his school?

People talk about all kinds of shit at school, doesn't necessarily make it a disruption. Hell I'm sure people talked about Kayne for about a month, but no one got threatened to be kicked out of school for talking about him.
10-09-2009, 12:10 PM
TSiFTW

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Originally Posted by BluesClues

Ok, so let me put it like this. If his clothing style is seen as disruptive, then would a kid who wore bright and shiny clothing with all types of glitter and florescent colors be disruptive too? I mean if I sat behind someone and every time the light hit their clothes it would hurt my eyes, I would be disrupted. Would everyone be in a rush to kick them out of school as well?
Or what about a kid who has bad hygiene (I've been around a few) and everyday they came to school smelling like sweat, dirt, and booty hole, would they be threatened to be kicked out?

They would at the school my step son goes to. They have this thing called a DRESS CODE and PERSONAL HYGIENE rules.
10-09-2009, 12:10 PM
BobbyFresco

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Oh and it has not been a disruption for IA, some people saw it as an opportunity to bash others to make themselves feel manly or whatever for the day

Or perhaps some of us understand that rules exist for a reason.
However, being that he is presumably gay and all, let's give him a free pass.

I can guarantee you that if the situation was about a White kid wearing something that was the least bit offensive, you'd be on here saying the same shit we are, Ms. Tolerance For All.

I'm also willing to bet that at least some of the kids he attends school with find his dress offensive and that in itself lends the situation to further scrutiny.
10-09-2009, 12:12 PM
TSiFTW

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Originally Posted by BluesClues

People talk about all kinds of shit at school, doesn't necessarily make it a disruption. Hell I'm sure people talked about Kayne for about a month, but no one got threatened to be kicked out of school for talking about him.

Yeah cause the kids have to look at Kanye at his school:rolleyes:. That is a great argument.
10-09-2009, 12:13 PM
AirMax95

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Originally Posted by BluesClues

I personally (and can not speak for everyone else) would not be disrupted. I have seen my fair share of not so "normal" things in life and I have grown to accept and love others no matter how different they are. I was always the way I am now. I believe in fairness for all.
Oh and it has not been a disruption for IA, some people saw it as an opportunity to bash others to make themselves feel manly or whatever for the day

Honestly, if it were when I was in highschool, I would get my chuckles in but I wouldn't let me lose focus on my studies. Today though, I'd transfer schools if I were a regular student, because he is going to get teased to the point where violence occurs on both ends. He is going to "tear da club up" emo style.

Now, if he were parading around soley for attention, he deserves an ass whooping in the hallway. If he is genuinely a drag fag, he needs to keep his distance and act as normal as possible:gay:
10-09-2009, 12:15 PM
BluesClues

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Originally Posted by BobbyFresco

Or perhaps some of us understand that rules exist for a reason.
However, being that he is presumably gay and all, let's give him a free pass.

I can guarantee you that if the situation was about a White kid wearing something that was the least bit offensive, you'd be on here saying the same shit we are, Ms. Tolerance For All.

I'm also willing to bet that at least some of the kids he attends school with find his dress offensive and that in itself lends the situation to further scrutiny.

Then yes!!! That is my point! What about this young man's clothes is offensive? Who is he offending?

I'm done arguing my point. I think I've said as much as I could. We all have our views and like I said, it's cool with me. There is no beef here. It really doesn't matter what any of us on IA think, we can't change the world. I can only voice my opinion and there will be some that agree and some that don't. That's life!
You all have a nice day and thanks for being adults about all of this and not bashing each other :goodjob:
10-09-2009, 12:18 PM
BobbyFresco

At the end of the day, there is a time and place for everything.
School is NOT the place to champion your so called "rights".
Moreso when rules have been established; Rules that have existed way before any of us even attended school.

I've said it before and I'll say it again.
Litigation is partly to blame for the pussyfying of this country.
More people need to stand up for what's right and not cower or fall back and concede for fear of being sued.

This attention whore's rights have not been violated in any way whatsoever...
10-09-2009, 12:32 PM
hondachik

Is he a virgin?

Maybe if he got ahold of some pussy, he'd change. Anyone seen Kayla? I'm sure she'll volunteer.
10-09-2009, 12:57 PM
Doppelgänger

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Originally Posted by BluesClues

What special rights does he think he has? The right to express himself through clothing without offending others? IT'S FUCKING CLOTHES! Get over it! Let GOD do the judging and stop trying to do his job. Worry about your damn self! I can't stand it when people feel the need to dictate others lives. Who said you were perfect? I'm sure there are things you do that majority of people wouldn't agree on. And I'm sure you wouldn't like it if those people were to make a huge fuss about what you do in your daily life. It just kills me how others are so quick to point the finger at someone else but can never point the finger at themselves when they fuck up. Maybe at the end of the day, you will feel better about yourself because the spot light and bashing has been towards someone else and not yourself. Feel free to rejoice that today you made it through another day without someone bashing you!

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How would you feel if you were told that a nice respectable man doesn't wear pants that are not custom made to fit his body, or wear shirts with writing, or baseball caps, or jewelry that is not a watch or wedding band, or spikes his hair, or wears belt buckles in the shape of other objects? Would you feel offended? Would you feel like you weren't able to express yourself and your taste in clothing? These examples are no different from what they are telling this young man. He is told he can't dress like a female (what he is most comfortable doing) but others are allowed to express themselves however! Whether it be wearing hello kitty clothing because you think it's cute. Like I said earlier, people are too busy judging and worrying about what other people are doing that they fail to see how prejudice they are being! Leave the damn kid alone. Stop being so concerned with what the hell he is doing with HIS life!

I never said that it's just plain wrong to do so... BUT THERE IS A DAMN TIME AND A DAMN PLACE TO DO IT and public school is NOT that place.

BTW God doesn't have any say on the RULES set fourth by the school. There is a median that most people follow on what is acceptable, step outside that and there are consequences...aka rules. So you can't stand when people try to dictate others lives? Do you hate your parents? Do you hate the government? Do you tell cops to fuck off on a regular basis?Well guess what, if we didn't have rules/boundries/laws the world would be total chaos!! There is a margin as to what is acceptable in school and clearly this kid (he is no man) doesn't care and thinks that the world should revolve around what he wants to do. This lead me to the opinion that the kid is a goddamn retard. He knows what he is doing and egging it on. Kinda like the dumbass that rearended someone in traffic and turned around is said "What happened?" Ummm bitch..you just rearened that car because you weren't paying attention and you must be retarded if you can't comprehend such a simple thing.

My arguement here is about this KID and what he is doing in PUBLIC SCHOOLS. Yes, it is that simple. Majority says the kid is causing a disruption..so guess what? Step in line when needed and do whatever the fuck you want later. But no, little high-and-mighty is playing games and using his highschool as a fashion show rather then just sitting down, shutting the fuck up and attending school for its intended purpose. Just because you don't find it a big deal doesn't make you the center of the universe either.

Hell, I used to dress punk...bondage pants, studded belts, knee high Docs, spiked wrist bands, dyed hair etc... Well, there were times in which I was told I couldn't do X-Y-Z at school and I stopped doing so....at school. Once I got home, I did what I wanted. Did I cry about it and go running to the media? No.

So next time someone gets a speeding ticket for doing 60 in a 45, should they argue with the cop that the speedlimit over on the interstate is 65 or that the car has the ability to go 100? No. Why? Because it's call breaking the law. You know that the word "law" is just another term for "rules"? You know what the cop is going to tell me if I say my car can go a lot faster than the speed limit? He'll probably tell me 'thats nice and all, but go do it at the race track'. Same thing this kid needs to learn.
10-09-2009, 12:59 PM
zspeed24

^What he said!
10-09-2009, 01:16 PM
Jiggity96

i see shit that irritates me everyday
and if i spoke out on it, or beat someone to death do to it
i wouldnt have time to do anything else

besides the faculty should be happy that this kid is causing the
uproar and they aren't shitting their brains out cuz some asshole
(like the guys i went to school with) spiked their coffee with phillips
10-09-2009, 01:16 PM
ilovemyhonda.

I used to hate when they told me to take my nose ring out. I was like um no. How the hell is a little stud in my nose disrupting other people...who the hell looks at other people's nose's?
10-09-2009, 02:15 PM
Skorcher

Same with hair, back in my high school days, there was a rule against dying our hair "colors that do not naturally occur" because it was a distraction. All that came about because some kid dyed his orange, and mine was blue. I didn't go crying to anyone because it infringed on my rights. I didn't like it, but I just waited until I was out of high school to go back to dying it because those were the school rules.

Also, according to the AJC he insisted on using the female restroom as well.
10-09-2009, 02:33 PM
BobbyFresco

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Originally Posted by Skorcher

Same with hair, back in my high school days, there was a rule against dying our hair "colors that do not naturally occur" because it was a distraction. All that came about because some kid dyed his orange, and mine was blue. I didn't go crying to anyone because it infringed on my rights. I didn't like it, but I just waited until I was out of high school to go back to dying it because those were the school rules.

Also, according to the AJC he insisted on using the female restroom as well.

But hey, he can express himself that way as well.
To hell with convention and rules n shit....:lmfao:
Jesus Christ.
When did men become ashamed to be men?
10-09-2009, 02:42 PM
02SloWrx

WTF! If you was born to be a man be a fucking man. God, people like this guy make me sick.
10-09-2009, 02:45 PM
Skorcher

I have no problem with gay people, or even folks cross dressing for that matter. But like it's already been said, he is a minor and at school, follow the rules or too bad. It's not the place for it.
10-09-2009, 02:58 PM
Nissan Sean

haha i graduated from North Cobb. kids a queer. needs to straiten up! lulz.
10-09-2009, 03:02 PM
Skorcher

My fiance graduated from there as well. After hearing the story, she said had this happened back then he would have had his ass handed to him just about daily.
10-09-2009, 03:06 PM
BobbyFresco

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Originally Posted by Skorcher

My fiance graduated from there as well. After hearing the story, she said had this happened back then he would have had his ass handed to him just about daily.

As he should.
I think the people that are rallying behind him are not doing him any favors.

He needs to learn to choose his battles and that EVERYONE has to conform to rules in some way or another, through out the span of our lives.
10-09-2009, 03:16 PM
Greddypacked

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Originally Posted by quickdodge®

Should students be able to cross-dress at school if they want to?

That’s the question for a public school in Kennesaw, Ga., which is demanding one of its male students dress in a more “manly” fashion for class.

As the Atlanta Constitution reports, 16-year-old transfer student Jonathan Escobar began attending North Cobb High School wearing wigs, make-up, skinny jeans, vintage tops and women’s flats.

Packs of kids gathered around him in the cafeteria, and the school's assistant principal even blamed a fight on Escobar's theatrical attire.

On his third day at the school, Escobar showed up wearing a pink wig. He was approached by a school official who told him he could either stop dressing in this typically feminine manner or consider home-schooling.

Citing a school dress code that prohibits students from wearing clothing that may "contribute to a disruption of school functions," the school stands by its decision to confront Escobar on his outfits.

But a student group on Facebook called "Support Jonathan" has over 1,000 members protesting the decision. Organizers have printed bright pink T-shirts emblazoned with that slogan, which many students plan to wear to school to show their displeasure, the Atlanta paper reports.

Escobar sees the school's edict as an infringement on his creative expression. "If I can't express myself, I won't go to school," he told the paper. "I want to get the message out there that because this is who I am, I can't get an education."

http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/20...scobar_vid.jpg

Later, QD.

OH SH!T wow. Is their a dont support Jonathan (I mean Joahna) in anyway poll, cuz I would vote for that.
10-09-2009, 03:19 PM
IndianStig

fuck that, expell its sorry ass. let it live on the streets cause no one is gonna hire a fucking cross dressing hs drop out. its gonna be doing sucky sucky five dollar pretty soon.
10-09-2009, 03:19 PM
BobbyFresco

Someone should start a I don't support *insert his/her name* group on FB.
10-09-2009, 03:23 PM
Njobe

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Originally Posted by BobbyFresco

Someone should start a I don't support *insert his/her name* group on FB.

lol like i said earlier if i was not lazy i would do it... but since i am, i'm going to wait for someone to make it so i can click "join group" lol
10-09-2009, 03:24 PM
Ed

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Originally Posted by BobbyFresco

Someone should start a I don't support *insert his/her name* group on FB.

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gi....3730632106..1

One member, and his name is michael vick. lulz

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gi....3730632106..1

I'm joining both of them.
10-09-2009, 03:25 PM
Ed

everybody join the second one. do it.
10-09-2009, 03:27 PM
BobbyFresco

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Originally Posted by Ed

everybody join the second one. do it.

I'm about to.
10-09-2009, 03:28 PM
Ed

bobby post on the wall when you do.
10-09-2009, 03:31 PM
Ed

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gi...d=146220247562

Boo.
10-09-2009, 03:31 PM
BobbyFresco

Joined both, posted on wall.

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