African-Americans

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Originally Posted by quickdodge®

I don't post what I "think" I know. I tend to stick with what I "do" know. Or at least what I was taught by others.

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You think you can "teach" me about being white? What it is like? You think b/c I have a mixed kid (you know that) that I 'all of a sudden' "KNOW" white people? Just b/c I go to church w/ her moms parents when I go to Birmingham to see them I'm "in the know"? Maybe b/c my best boy Terry is white and I hang out w/ him when I can and we roll out and fuck bitches that I'm "in the know??" I wouldn't DARE pretend that I am "in the know" just by those few areas where my life overlaps w/ the "white" culture. For 1 it's dumb - and 2 I wouldn't wanna offend a whole sect of people and pretend that their existence is so shallow that I can "be in the know" by naming a few unimportant things that I have done to mesh myself in their culture. The things I have learned from and about white culture from white men/women can ONLY be the tip of the iceberg. And even if it wasn't, that'd be ONE story out of MILLIONS of other stories. Get that right bro. We have a lot in common w/ the interracial kids - so yeah, I'd tell a BLACK man that I prob know a bit more about "white" culture than he - but I'd never say that to another white man. I'm not that "brave".

You DO have one up on a lot of people... and that is that you WILL "go there" to that point and learn for YOURSELF what little you have learned (this is not an insult, but I assure you that it's JUST a little') instead of walking around like lots of people quoting shit they "learned" in school and heard from other people and watch on the 1 sided newscasts thinking that they got shit figured out about an entire race of people.

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Originally Posted by quickdodge®

I'm not black, nor am I one of the many white dudes that get involved with the black race to "look cool" to blacks. I actually immersed myself, to an extent, in the black culture. I've been to many services in black churches, I've sat around and listened to the people that have been there talk. I've sat and learned. For the last two years, my riding partner was (cue Ice Cube voice) Straight Outta Kenya. Dude's been here for only 2 years. I can't tell you how many hours we talked about his home, his culture, him being right in the thick of all the battles going on around him. I love to learn.

I have no problem learning. If I am wrong on a point, I have no problem being corrected. But I won't be talked down on if I'm not 100% in the know. Later, QD.

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I know you don't have a problem learning - that's why we clicked from the day we met - the people that don't like "QD" is b/c they don't know "Mike". I understand that. If I didn't know Mike - I'd say you were a fuckin' asshole too (lol) -- and I wouldn't try to learn otherwise. And that's where most of society is... "learning" about black people - black culture - Jews - Germans - Indians from books when they are sitting RIGHT beside them at the bookstore - at the park - etc. "Learning" about blacks from books written by whites w/ "quotes" from black people they interviewed - THA FUCK?? Black people "learning" about white people/culture by reading books wriiten by BLACK people w/ only a few "quotes" from the 3 white people they interviewed and put in the credits. FUCKING QUIT BEING PUSSIES AND GO UP TO THEM AND ASK. We as a people (ALL PEOPLE) have missed the WHOLE FUCKING ship and it's ugly. You hate/don't like black/white/mexican people - you MIGHT get the conversation of a lifetime from some1 NOT like you @ Starbucks if you step outside of your own funk and offer them a hot chocolate and a seat at your table.

I'll keep this shit simple for all involved. You got 80 little years on this rock IF YOU'RE LUCKY! What are you gonna do w/ it? Stay in your backyard or venture out? Who are you gonna know? People like you or LOTS of people? It's all up to you - there's a LOT of world out there... GO SEE IT. There are LOTS of people out there not like you - GO LEARN ABOUT THEM - it's not hard.

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Originally Posted by BABY J

You think you can "teach" me about being white? What it is like? I have a mixed kid (you know that) my daughter is mixed - so I "KNOW" white people? B/c my best boy Terri is white and I hang out w/ him then I'm "in the know??" I wouldn't DARE pretend that I am "in the know" just by those few areas where my life overlaps w/ the "white" cluture. For 1 it's dumb - and 2 I wouldn't wanna offend a whole sect of people andpretend that their existence is so shallow that I can "be in the know" by naming a few things that I have done to mesh myself in their culture. The things I have learned from and about white culture from white men/women can ONLY be the tip of the iceberg. And even if it wasn't, that'd be ONE story out of MILLIONS of other stories. Get that right bro. We have a lot in common w/ the interracial kids - so yeah, I'd tell a BLACK man that I prob know a bit more about "white" culture than he - but I'd never say that to another white man. I'm not that "brave".

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Here's where a lot of people can get it mixed up, I think you just did. I don't claim to know all about blacks. I don't claim to know half. I have NEVER claimed to know what it's like to walk in their shoes. I can understand what it's like because the compassion/humanity that is in me for another human race and their treatment is so great.... I really don't know how to explain it. Please, don't take me literally when I say I know things or learn things. So I'm not, nor have I ever, saying to anyone, you, Tony, that I know more about your culture. I know I don't. But I also won't be told that I don't know shit.

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Originally Posted by Baby Jizzle

You DO have one up on a lot of people... and that is that you WILL "go there" to that point and learn for YOURSELF what little you have learned (this is not an insult, but I assure you that it's JUST 'a little') instead of walking around like lots of people quoting shit they "learned" in school and heard from other people and thinking that they got shit figured out.

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Like you said, we both have mixed children and with that a more extensive knowledge on the opposite's culture than someone without. And you don't have to insist that I don't know shit (compared to what there is to know) about you motherfuckers (lolol---joke). Again, I don't claim to know all.

Also, I'm glad we clicked. You're a dude I'd hate to NOT have as a friend or not know period. I'm glad you met Mike and forgot about who QD is. Props to you, homeboy. Later, QD.

^^^ THAT'S MY N1GGA!!! LOL. QD fucks off about a lot of shit and pisses people off just b/c people ALLOW him to. LOL. But make no mistake, he can elevate more than most when it's time to - real talk.

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Originally Posted by BABY J

^^^ THAT'S MY N1GGA!!! LOL. QD fucks off about a lot of shit and pisses people off just b/c people ALLOW him to. LOL. But make no mistake, he can elevate more than most when it's time to - real talk.

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Answer your phone, fucker. Later, QD.

I will - I'm on this GAWT DAMN conference call - (iPhones not activating via the handset in New York)

It's politically incorrect for a white person to be "african american".

Example:http://www.1010wins.com/pages/4374417.php?

FACT: We all came from Africa in the beginning anyway. It's science.

Mesopotamia isn't Africa.... FAIL.

Why do people act like there aren't white people that were born and raised in Africa? And when they do admit it, why does said white person have to be from South Africa? Lmao, I'm sure there are thousands of white people who were born and raised in all countries in Africa.

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Originally Posted by tony

Any time I've met someone living here from S. Africa that is white they will just say they are South African, nothing more. If I meet someone who is black from Africa they will typically say the country (i.e "I am Nigerian" or "I am from Zimbabwe) they do not associate their selves with being American just because they have moved here.

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Bolded part conveys my experiences not actual demographics but I guess reading and understanding that was a task too difficult. I don't tend to run into many white Nigerians.

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Originally Posted by tony

Bolded part conveys my experiences not actual demographics but I guess reading and understanding that was a task too difficult. I don't tend to run into many white Nigerians.

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Ok, Tony. You've made your "point." You know it all and I know shit. It's all good. Later, QD.

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Originally Posted by quickdodge®

Ok, Tony. You've made your "point." You know it all and I know shit. It's all good. Later, QD.

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lol QD that wasn't directed at you. Look, its not a matter of know it all.. you will never see me post in a thread about Civics or I dont know.. Mustangs because I don't know anything about them, I may look to learn but I wont pretend I have any knowledge about it. Talk about G35's and I'm in my element and this subject right here, this is my study in academics.. I love learning and talking about it. So again its not a matter of being a know it all, I'm just passionate about the subject.

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Originally Posted by tony

lol QD that wasn't directed at you. Look, its not a matter of know it all.. you will never see me post in a thread about Civics or I dont know.. Mustangs because I don't know anything about them, I may look to learn but I wont pretend I have any knowledge about it. Talk about G35's and I'm in my element and this subject right here, this is my study in academics.. I love learning and talking about it. So again its not a matter of being a know it all, I'm just passionate about the subject.

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My apologies, then, sir. And I'm exactly the same way. I don't post in the Tech section because I know nothing about cars. I do post if there is something I do know, but the majority of the time, I don't. I post what I do know. If I post wrong, then by all means, I'm up for corrections, but I'd like it to be a respectful correction, you know.

Again my apologies for the comment. Salute, QD.

YES, I HAVE A FEW FRIENDS THAT MOVED FROM AFRICA THAT ARE WHITE AND I CONSIDER THEM AFRICAN AMERICANS

Tony, are you a US citizen? If so, you are American. It doesn't matter what color your skin is, or what culture you come from. America is a melting pot of races and cultures, if you haven't noticed.
Take a look from a US enemy's country/culture from outside of the US. They see us under one flag, and we are all hated Americans in their eyes. They do not separate us based upon color, and neither should we.
Your avatar shows what we should really see, now stop separating people based upon the color of their skin, and start being pro-active in encouraging communication between all Americans. That is the only way to reduce the amount of racial tensions in this country.

Blah......Tony, QD, Baby-J......great job. No mudslinging had, rather open-minded people willing to understand each others views.

You old fuckers make me proud, lol!

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Originally Posted by AirMax95

Blah......Tony, QD, Baby-J......great job. No mudslinging had, rather open-minded people willing to understand each others views.

You old fuckers make me proud, lol!

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All three of us are black deep down so we get each other, lolol. Later, QD.

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Originally Posted by David88vert

Tony, are you a US citizen? If so, you are American. It doesn't matter what color your skin is, or what culture you come from. America is a melting pot of races and cultures, if you haven't noticed.
Take a look from a US enemy's country/culture from outside of the US. They see us under one flag, and we are all hated Americans in their eyes. They do not separate us based upon color, and neither should we.
Your avatar shows what we should really see, now stop separating people based upon the color of their skin, and start being pro-active in encouraging communication between all Americans. That is the only way to reduce the amount of racial tensions in this country.

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I do believe that the diverse population is what makes this country so great. The fact that I have the opportunity to serve in the capacity that I do, the fact that I have an opportunity to pursue my dream does not go unrecognized by me.

But what I don't overlook is my heritage, it means a lot to me and I can't see failing to acknowledge that in the name of being American. And it is not just my heritage I value, just as mine as a black male is not to be overlooked, those who migrate from Israel, the one who seeks asylum in the U.S from Somalia, Mexicans who come here to better provide for their family. White, black, brown, yellow, everyone has a story to tell and while we are one country, we are still individuals with differences and when we learn to embrace and educate our selves on those differences (good and bad) then we are a better country.

And on the last statement, its easy to say or assume what our proclaimed enemies think of us but sometimes I think the enemy label gets blanketed. For exampe its common to point the finger at Palestinians and Hamas as opposition to the United States but they have a story as well and I believe there would be a lot less animosity and more diplomacy if that story was heard and understood rather than dismissed.

I've said all of this to just basically say before forming an opinion take the time to put yourself in the other persons shoes. I constantly try to understand the perception of the black community to other races so I can better address the conflict and ill admit I struggle to do it but I still try.

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Originally Posted by tony

I've said all of this to just basically say before forming an opinion take the time to put yourself in the other persons shoes. I constantly try to understand the perception of the black community to other races so I can better address the conflict and ill admit I struggle to do it but I still try.

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That alone would solve many problems on an everyday social level as well. To understand how any society functions you must understand the relationship between the ethnicities and backgrounds. Seeing one side only gives you half of a possible solution.

a freakin southern african

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Originally Posted by tony

I do believe that the diverse population is what makes this country so great. The fact that I have the opportunity to serve in the capacity that I do, the fact that I have an opportunity to pursue my dream does not go unrecognized by me.

But what I don't overlook is my heritage, it means a lot to me and I can't see failing to acknowledge that in the name of being American. And it is not just my heritage I value, just as mine as a black male is not to be overlooked, those who migrate from Israel, the one who seeks asylum in the U.S from Somalia, Mexicans who come here to better provide for their family. White, black, brown, yellow, everyone has a story to tell and while we are one country, we are still individuals with differences and when we learn to embrace and educate our selves on those differences (good and bad) then we are a better country.

And on the last statement, its easy to say or assume what our proclaimed enemies think of us but sometimes I think the enemy label gets blanketed. For exampe its common to point the finger at Palestinians and Hamas as opposition to the United States but they have a story as well and I believe there would be a lot less animosity and more diplomacy if that story was heard and understood rather than dismissed.

I've said all of this to just basically say before forming an opinion take the time to put yourself in the other persons shoes. I constantly try to understand the perception of the black community to other races so I can better address the conflict and ill admit I struggle to do it but I still try.

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No one wants anyone to give up or forget their heritage.

The problem is this - you appear to see black Americans as different than white Americans, hispanic Americans, etc. We are all equal Americans, and we need to recognize that while we have some differences, but our similarities are more important to focus on.
In serving, you serve all Americans - regardless of race, belief, etc. Why should daily life be any different?

Enemys of America do not see a difference between you and I. When they chant, "Death to America", they do not add black, white, African, or any other adjective in front of America.

YES! Funny story...

A buddy of mine opened up the two Atlanta Bread Companies at Hartsfield-Jackson Airport. When he was doing the "bid" he put "African American" on his bid app. Now, he is white and from South Africa. He got the bid and they were PISSED that he was white as the application section for "African American" was supposed to mean Black. Sucks for them.

Another buddy from South Africa got a scholarship because he, too, put African American. He was also white and they felt cheated. Once again, they were looking for a "black" guy, not white. Go figure. They got busted on their terminology.

My experience with White people from South Africa is that they will quickly point out that they are from South Africa. They don't really seek to associate themselves with the rest of Africa where the lekwerekweres (immigrants from poorer countries like Nigeria) come from.

Lets not forget that South Africa has its own history with racism and xenophobia (fear of foreigners) that's lasted well beyond the "official" end of apartheid.

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Originally Posted by browningboy7

I dated a girl from South Africa, I always just called her "whafrican".

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no you didn't you just made that up:D

Why can anyone ever just answer a question?

'YES' is the answer

Damn!