maybe you should read every comment on this thread before posting, DEE DE DEE
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maybe you should read every comment on this thread before posting, DEE DE DEE
I wish you were aborted.Originally Posted by HatchForSale
lol
x2 lol, thats right lol
LOL oh god this is great. Take your own advice but dont just read all the comments, actually read the first post!
BAM Just comitted a crime right there, by purchasing the band! All credability lost!
Also Pual he only states there where people in VIP with him, never said anything about them being out back!
doesnt matter BAM! The only thing that will happen to him is he'll beforced to take a class, and maybe a fine BAM small price to pay for this but wont matter he'll be rolling in some dough soon
You should take advantage of the Cash for Clunkers on that STANG
BAM the Bouncer was selling kids 21+ VIP passes, and thats not a crime lol your an idiot take a gun and kill yourself seriously man your just plain retarded
Seems you need that!
I guess you dont understand. If your dads a knowledgeable attorney ask him about a plantiff's credability, and then what happens when that credability is shown in court!
the force is strong w/ this one +25
Paul "your bullshit makes the flowers grow"
Prove that the bouncer sold it to him?You dont seem to get it! Man from your post, and your dad being a lawyer you sure your not B-rad from Malibu?
Dude you just need to stop talking your digging your self a hole, The Club and Bouncers are the ones whose credibilty are fucked, man you need to go back to school, i learned this shit in Grade school
Personally, I would let it go. It weren't suppose to be there in the first place and got your butt kicked for it. I do not believe in karma, but this would qualify if I did.
MACH N U is officially the TARD of the MONTH
1) clubs hire off-duty cops bc they shoulf KNOW the law. Knowing the law means that...
--> they should know that beating a handcuffed customer in the face while he's choking on a dumpster shouldn't happen
--> that they are job is to remove them from the premises ... not interrogate or torture them out back
--> the club should hold regular meetings on what is allowed and what is not for their security staff
** on a 2nd note, unless you are going to jail or having sex I think it's illegal for a bouncer to handcuff you - but I will check on that.
"I'm not a gynecologist... but I'll take a look."
Wow you are stupid. Where did the clubs credability go? He has to first prove what they did outback. From the way he told it, there was just him, the bouncer and a cop out back. If there where no cameras its a cop's word against his. His being the one who obtained alcohol illegally. Next he has to prove that a bouncer sold him the bands in a bathroom, where %99.9 chance theres zero cameras. Next the club will have evidence of him buying drinks from the bar with a wristband, that hurts his credability! Did I explain it out well enough for you, or do I need to start drawing pictures?
MACH N U is officially the TARD of the MONTH
How about we let him go ahead and do whatever he wants to do. Then afterwards let him come on here and post about the results. Then see who is right and who is wrong.
Anyone who thinks the OP will actually get a settlement if he's to press charges is lacking a severe amount of intelligence
In the mean time we can take side bets.
$100 10-1 for the defense!In the mean time we can take side bets.
$100 10-1 for the defense!
I'll take that gimme 200 on the defense!
Press charge dude
Bouncer gets in trouble for battery because they cannot beat up people by law, then the club owner is liable. Double win. DO IT!
A few points I would like to make.
1.Lose your license until your 21 because an alcohol related incident on your record says you will. Lawyer may get around this but its hit and miss.
2. Sue if you want, no one forced you to drink. The bouncer selling the illegal bands actually relieves the club of responsibility. He was not acting in accordance with his duties, therefore, not under the purview of the club. They MIGHT settle for enough to pay a decent lawyer though just to keep their name out of the papers.
3. It is not unlawful imprisonment if their duties include detaining suspects until police arrive, which is what most clubs do with underage drinkers. They do this to avoid the drunk driving incident that was brought up.
4. It is complete BS that a business could be sued because of the incompetence of the people that go there. Should I be able to sue my employer if I get hurt in a wreck on the way home? How about Kroger if I am on my way from grocery shopping? Your safety is your own responsibility. It is not the job of a business to babysit its customers.
These are through page 5. I imagine I will have more by the time I finish reading.
First, TYPING IN CAPS MAKES YOU LOOK STUPID. Please stop.
Comparing a walmart employee to a bouncer at a club is a huge difference. There are a lot of diff scenario's that could play out here.
Opera could never want this to go to court, they wouldn't want their name in the paper saying that one of their bouncers got caught contributing to minors and for assault against the same minor.
Opera could say take it to court, say that the kid was, while intoxicated, being disruptive and causing a problem. After being handcuffed he was struggling and KICKING at the cops, and that was the cause for your eye, was defense. It may not swing but I know in KY that if you kick at a cop and he slams your head into a hood, good luck pressing any charges. Its them vs an underage drinking.
He could take them to court, they try the above, and fail, and he gets money, fined for underage drinking, the bouncer gets fired in all scenarios, and he gets money.
Of course I own this.
IT PUTS THE OREOS ON THE RIM
I thought I was right that your license got suspended in GA for underage possession.
Also your right. Now that I think about it, a few years ago, last time I ever went to a club. Was wild bills, a friend of ours was there underage and got caught drinking from his brothers drink. A bouncer twice his size walked up behind him, pushed him, put him into a head lock and drug him out the exit where 3 cops where waiting.
Agreed, seems to be the common answer in this case. But the whole admitting to the underage possession will be the clincher in all scenarios!
I swear there are more jailhouse lawyers in this thread than Chino and Sing Sing combined.
he probably wouldn't even get a chance to take it to court.. opera's insurance would come in and offer him money (if he had/has strong evidence to support it) or even the owner might just keep it out of the news... once again talk to a good lawyer see what he mainly thinks...
I wish that would happen to me...
Get the news involved.
This was fail on all sides... You will learn a lesson, so will they....
i would take it to court.
jury's almost always side with the wronged individual vs the evil corporate entity (opera in this case)
you WILL get paid, probably through out of court settlement - and bouncer will have to bounce the fuck out lol.
the underage and drinking thing isn't even an issue imo. talk to a real lawyer instead of these clowns.
^^ Agreed. I'm with you Julio. Being punched in the face while u are handcuffed alone is enough that would have put me over the top no matter WHAT I did wrong.
LOL
Kinda reminds me of when I was in college.. we'd get some kegs and leak it to the high-school kids (underage) on purpose. $10 to party. Then we'd get a good count at the door while keeping a GOOD lock on the booze. We'd call the cops on our own party -- as soon as the cops get there the underage kids would BOLT! And we'd say we called the cops to get rid of them b/c they were not invited.
We kept the booze AND the money from the door from those fuckers (it was NOTHING to get 100 high school kids or more to pay every month) - LOL. Next month, we'd do the same thing - LOL.
Bouncer gets the money from you (and who knows how many others) then gets to throw you out on your fucking head and dot your eye for good measure. You get nothing in return - only if they would punch me in the face while handcuffed they'd be more famous than they wanted to be I can bet you that - underage or not. LOL
"I'm not a gynecologist... but I'll take a look."
So, curious? Are you a real lawyer? Probably not, so try not being a hypocrite, imo.
Of course I own this.
IT PUTS THE OREOS ON THE RIM
Are you sure you used that word correctly?
Had something similar happen at Opera. Their bouncers are power tripping low life's who will pounce on any opportunity to fuck someone up. Like Frog said, the system between the club/bouncers/cops is corrupt.
I think whatever chance you had was to press charges immediately following the incident, the cop(s) knew this and that is why they gave you the ultimatum. Wherever this goes, I wish you the best of luck.
aren't both parties at fault?
bouncer sells underage 21+ band.
underage accepts knowing it's illegal
Sorry but what ALOT of are missing is, he first has to PROVE IT! No evidence no case. Simple as that!
Im over it
Lexus GS300
So WTF does that make you look? Holy fucking irony.
My Wal Mart story makes perfect fucking sense. Walmart employee beating you up is the same shit as an Opera employee beating you up. So you fucking tell me, what the fuck does Kentucky have to do with this shit? First of all, you have no idea what you're talking about. He didn't get caught for underage drinking. READ homeboy, READ !
-Bouncer sold him 21+ band.
-OP buys alcohol
-Girl takes a sip of his alcohol.
-Some bouncer sees it, and kicks them out.
-Dude gets put in handcuffs and gets beaten up.
As far as I know....the cops never took his BAC, correct? So therefor, OP can claim that he never took a sip of alcohol. He had just bought the alcohol and was just chillin when the girl took a sip.
How can they prove he was drunk when there was no written evidence of his blood alcohol level?
Basically, dude got harassed by the bigger power and abused for the hell of it.
OP has something here for sure.
BUY MY HATCH <--click the link, cuz.
This would be hard to prove that a bouncer sold you the bands in court. It could be argued that you found someone leaving and bought there bands from them. In which you knew you were in the wrong.
Staff member see you contributing to the delinquency of a minor and confronts you.
You start to get belligerent with a staff member and staff member knows you have been drinking and may become violent.
Staff member takes this as a I am about to get swung on and stops the threat. He does what ever he can to get you out of the club so you do not become a threat to other party goers.
After getting thrown out you still try to charge the staff member so he does what he can to stop the threat once more.
Lets see underage drinking, Public intox, and contributing to the delinquency of a minor are just three charges I see here. I am not a lawyer nor a officer of the law so I am not sure what all charges you could have been charged with. I am not trying to argue but I would let it slide. This is just how I see it.
Were your photos taken at the bar or once you got home? If when you got home I doubt they will hold any value. Anything could have happened to you once you left the club.
This is just what I can get from the story.
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