So I got banned from 240atlanta.com

[Julio]

The only thing that bother me—both sites have a problem with marketing myopia.

Short sighted and inward looking approach to marketing that focuses on the needs of the firm instead of defining the firm and its products in terms of the customers' needs and wants. Such self-centered firms fail to see and adjust to the rapid changes in their markets and, despite their previous eminence, falter, fall, and disappear. This concept was discussed in an article (titled 'Marketing Myopia,' in July-August 1960 issue of Harvard Business Review) by Harvard Business School emeritus professor of marketing, Theodore C. Levitt (1925-), who suggests that firms get trapped in this bind because they omit to ask the vital question, "What business are we in?"

I don't really think this article fits in this case... maybe 2% of it.. the rest is yiba yaba...

[Julio]

Ha ha! I am really going to have to say 240atlanta currently, I do believe. If we are talking about CERTAINLY from one of the boards via PM. Any other way (via email, etc.) it's kind of hard to tell where they actually come from. I will have to check with Dan to be positive though.

As a whole and over time, of course IA. They have been around way longer.

I believe you 100%..... Most 240's are hunk of turds.... Like Echo said, they are the new Civic.. Only less reliable and faster... which means, when you make a 240 faster, it will break. The last 240 I saw that I really liked was the BATL 240 and before that, was Marshall's 240... You would think by now, you would see a few head turners... Or maybe im not paying attention...

[81911SC]

He's banned from there and now here LOL

[Julio]

Is obvious they will not/never compare to IA... Yes, we have some immature fucks on here.. But we have some of the smartest automotive motherfuckers in GA on this site.. IA has become a hate it or love it type thing.... But we believe every ricer/retard/douche deserves a chance to "rehabilitate" .. Back 10 Years + ago, I was a ricer... Im sure most of you on here were as well.. Now, I'm really not into cars as much.. passion still there.. but im broke...

I will go a little over my head and say this ..

IA, on a local level will probably never be taken down by another local site.. But...

I read somewhere .. "Sometimes, something big can only be taken down by its own creators or what holds it together.."

I Kinda want to believe that...


With that said.. I have no problems with any other sites.. I'm over all that.. we have enough people bring drama to keep IA stats popping..

I hate to say it, But we are used to paying attention at other's people problem then more serious issues going on in the world today.... as long as our silly minds are doing that... alot of social sites will continue to grow...


Peace..

[Maki]

well said.

[Tracy]

I don't really think this article fits in this case... maybe 2% of it.. the rest is yiba yaba...

What I mean is, You have to be careful when you choose your name. Like IMPORT Atlanta or like All Pro SUBARU. It was really just a joke. I am trying to be smart with my new vocabulary I learnt.

[Tracy]

I believe you 100%..... Most 240's are hunk of turds.... Like Echo said, they are the new Civic.. Only less reliable and faster... which means, when you make a 240 faster, it will break. The last 240 I saw that I really liked was the BATL 240 and before that, was Marshall's 240... You would think by now, you would see a few head turners... Or maybe im not paying attention...

I know right? I mean you have places like Killswitch and Lethal. They should be killin it!!!! They are so cheap to build, I can't believe more 240's don't do it right...but like you said, they are the new Honda.

[Dr.G35]

IA has become a hate it or love it

Maybe that should be the new motto for Import Atlanta. " Hate it or Love It."

[bowdown201]

So how long is ol Jason banned for?

[ShooterMcGavin]

I guy got smart w me and I defended myself then when I tried to log back in i got this....

You have been banned for the following reason:
Insulted Other Member(s)

Date the ban will be lifted: 08-03-2009, 06:00 PM

foreshadowing thread foreshadowed....

[MongolPup]

I know right? I mean you have places like Killswitch and Lethal. They should be killin it!!!! They are so cheap to build, I can't believe more 240's don't do it right...but like you said, they are the new Honda.

Every shop has their stories, PM'd. I think the real reason for what Julio noticed is that for the most part people aren't interesting in doing them correctly. Cars blow up/break all the time from ignored preventative or just normal maintenance. Their owners were too busy saving up for an HKS heat shield for their T25 (that is, if they actually have an SR. It's right up there with "I'm putting an frankenstein K in my EJ!"). This post by Wes sums it up perfectly.

I've noticed a large amount of stock cars blowing up lately, and I've come to a few conclusions/pointers that I'd like to share:

-You should do an oil change before you spend that $20 on flat blacking your car.

-KA-T is cool, but you might want to spend $50 on a gasket set to stop that KA from leaking if you expect it to last, before you spend $50 on an ebay intercooler.

-I know, I know. You're saving for an SR. But, don't you think you should put a $40 waterpump and a $10 thermostat in your car before you have to spend $500 on another KA?

-Going through 5 sets of used tires in about 3 months is not cheaper than buying one set of new tires. I know money is tight with everyone, but think ahead. Especially if your car is a daily driver, why risk crashing your only ride riding on shit tires?

-Don't buy a loudass exhaust if your motor is completely stock. Just makes you look like an idiot, especially if said motor runs like shit.

-Before you buy coilovers, make sure the rest of your suspension is in decent shape. Check your ball joints, tie rod ends, and subframe bushings. You would be surprised how much better your car will handle or ride with just those things replaced.

-Ebay parts suck. Don't buy them. Ebay coilovers suck, and IMO are just an accident waiting to happen. I've installed countless sets for people, and I honestly feel bad about myself everytime I do.

-If you have a hole in your radiator, or are leaking coolant, get that fixed before you lower your car.

-If your car is pissing oil, instead of putting atleast a quart a week in for months, figure out where the leak is coming from, and fix it.

-Also, remember to burp the coolant system. Don't just add water and go. Alot of people have different methods. I do this. Remove rad cap, fill with water, crank car. Set the heater on hot, and the mode on foot/defrost, and let it run and add water until you dont see any bubbles at all at the cap, then crack the bleeder screw, and wait for strait water to come out, then close that, and put the cap back on, and you shouldn't have any over heating problems. And just for the record, I always do a 50/50 water/coolant mixture. Alot of people like different ratios, but I've never had a problem with a 50/50 mix.

-Also, if your coolant is super dirty, spend the $10 on a coolant flush kit at autozone. It's a little kit that comes with t-fittings that you install on the top coolant hose. You install the T, hook it to a hose, undo the radiator drain plug and cap, turn on the hose, and just let the car run until clean water is shootin out of the radiator. You'd be amazed at how dirty the coolant in some of the S13's I've picked up was.

-When it comes to buying oil, just run the recommended weight from Nissan. And don't put synthetic in a motor with tons of miles. Not only is it a waste of money on oil, but more than likely, you're car will develop ticks and leaks that it didn't have before.

Basically what I'm trying to say is this.

I know times are tight, but I'd rather have a stock car that has maintenance up to date on it, than a modded car I worry about blowing up because of shit maintenance. nd its better to spend $100 now, than $500 later. I mean, really I am super anal about replacing thermostats. Its a $8 dollar part most of the time, than can save you atleast $200 doing a headgasket job yourself, or $600 having someone else do it.

So with that being said, if you want your daily drifter to be reliable, do some fucking maintenance before you attempt to modify it. Everyone wants a car with dope wheels and a sick stance, but that doesnt do you too well when its sitting in your driveway because the motor blew.


-Wes

The other thing that bothers me is the rash of knock off parts. These kids are pricing real companies right out of the market. Everyone wants the stuff, so a store HAS to carry it. You see where I'm going with that, I don't need to explain the dynamics to you. I have been told TWICE on that site that I am a money waster: "You buy too many name brand parts", and "You buy too much Nismo stuff". The Nismo stuff I can almost understand, but really?! Shit in, shit out.

[skillzilla]

I dont know, this site and 240atl seem about even as far as immaturity is concerned. Here you have a much larger user base, so you will see more of it of course, but level to level its about even.

As far as 240atl, 240's and broke kids, yeah they go hand in hand. How many ebay turbo kits have you seen on Civics? On 240's? Yeah.

[skillzilla]

The OP gave me bad reps for saying he was a crybaby

[Echonova]

The OP gave me bad reps for saying he was a crybaby

LOL. Have some green.

[Julio]

What I mean is, You have to be careful when you choose your name. Like IMPORT Atlanta or like All Pro SUBARU. It was really just a joke. I am trying to be smart with my new vocabulary I learnt.

lol.. you know whats funny.. I didnt know if it was a joke or serious.. lol

I was seriously, wtf.. .. shit, im even laughing now.. I thought it was like so random in a weird way.

Thats why I was like the rest is yiba yaba..

[down_shift]

both populated by the same kinds of people. toe-may-toe, ta-maw-toe.

[viperbite]

byron you post that crap everywhere lol.

you need to update your avatar on here.

your car is Way different now!


and Tracy, start asking individual customers how they heard about your shop.

i still dont know what the OP's name is.

[AFSil80]

People bashed my recaros over there, it was funny. And the guys bashing drove $200 S13s

Glad to see I'm still in your thoughts. You still never answered Jonathan's post, but I won't rehash the issue if you don't want to.

Yea their all about bashing on some "knockoff" shit but yet still seem to buy the shit out of them.

Barking up the wrong tree, dude. I won't bother posting the pic I always do when it comes to knockoff seats.

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On a serious note, IA kiddies and 240ATL kiddies are kettle and pot. And I'm not worried about anyone from 240ATL seeing this because I say it all the time over there anyways.

Like Skillzilla said, broke kids and 240's go hand in hand. I've just always tried to make sure mine wasn't a complete pile of shit so people outside of the 240 community would at least have faith that SOME 240 owners still know what the fuck they are doing. Anyone that knows me already knows that I don't hate on people based off of what they drive, I wait for them to open their mouth and see what they have to say. And I am all for supporting the local scene, and that means being involved. When you get involved and desire to have the respect of your peers, you can't act one way on one site and completely different on another. The world just doesn't work that way.

[Tracy]

byron you post that crap everywhere lol.

you need to update your avatar on here.

your car is Way different now!


and Tracy, start asking individual customers how they heard about your shop.

i still dont know what the OP's name is.

I do and 80% of them say they saw us on TV or in a mag. 19% say a friend. The other 1% say a forum.

[AFSil80]

Oh and Casey, the OP's name on 240ATL is 350zftw.

[MongolPup]

This thread is win. I love you all. Ebay turbos FTW!

[Echonova]

I think we should all skreet race our keyboards and see who's fastest.

[MongolPup]

I would blow your doors off Kevin. I have full Megan Racing suspension on my keyboard. Incredible response from the keys.

[Echonova]

I would blow your doors off Kevin. I have full Megan Racing suspension on my keyboard. Incredible response from the keys.

I've installed a MOTEC systems exhaust on my laptop since our last race...

Bring it.

[MongolPup]

I've installed a MOTEC systems exhaust on my laptop since our last race...

Bring it.

What is power without control? I'll have you in the corners.

[IMPORTchic]

He's banned from there and now here LOL

I was coming on here just to say that.....I am a tab bit late! Buwahahah!!

[Echonova]

What is power without control? I'll have you in the corners.

I had to back-half my server to fit wider tires so it would hook.

[MongolPup]

You never had me, and you never had your computer.

[AFSil80]

Bullshit asshole, no one likes the wireless here!

[MongolPup]

Peter: hot chick is walking her dog. I'm walking lady killer Bo. Bo fucks everything up. Good hustle gangles.

[Ed]

Come on, man. Hackers, crackers and phreakers? I was made for this, bro.

[Ed]

He did the stare and type on you, didn't he? He got that from me.

[AFSil80]

Peter: hot chick is walking her dog. I'm walking lady killer Bo. Bo fucks everything up. Good hustle gangles.

Bo is like that drunk friend that embarrasses you in front of others while talking about sports that nobody cares about. Only difference is that Bo is too cool to resist afterward.

[browningboy7]

Bring it.

[The Ninja]

Bring it.

Never seen a riced out PC until now. Thanks asshole.

[MongolPup]

Bo is like that drunk friend that embarrasses you in front of others while talking about sports that nobody cares about. Only difference is that Bo is too cool to resist afterward.

Hahahahahahaha you may not come down here much, but when you do it counts.

[AFSil80]

Gotta keep my track record strong.

[Tracy]

My keyboard is jet powered. Just sayin'.

[Flip]

Thought I'd chime in on this one .

First to set the record straight, I have no problem with IA and won't trash talk IA nor its staff...

We had a lil quam in the beginning regarding inviting a few people (maybe 4-6) I knew had 240's on IA over to 240Atl and I can see why the staff here perceived it in a different way than I expected but we worked that out and I don't feel that there is any bad blood.

Also, 240Atlanta was not created for any reason having to do with IA, it was created because I wanted to expand my knowledge of 240's and help provide an information base to fellow 240 drivers. There wasn't a good local 240 site that I'd found that was active so I created one...

The drama section was created to try to divert the drama away from the technical/sales sections of the site but it didn't work as well as we would have liked lol. It did however create tons of traffic...

I've met and know a few of the IA staff and like them. I'd be glad to work with IA if the opportunity arose...

[Flip]

Oh and forgot to mention that the user was banned for insulting another member direct, two warnings were given before the 3 day ban on the third infraction... There was plenty of warning.

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