THAT'S IT! IT'S ON LIKE DONKEY KONG!!!Originally Posted by GKtib®
just gotta figure out what to do....
-Ant.
MAKE A THREAD ABOUT IT, YOU TITTYSUCKER.
depends on whose tities, but if the right ones are presented, i'd fall into this category.Originally Posted by GKtib®
the titties in bobbyfresh's sig.
i just threw up a little....Originally Posted by GKtib®
Originally Posted by AnthonyF
i like you too. (maybe a lil homojk)
but in all seriousness, to me. the more you weed out the unnecessary bullshit that this site has, the more that this site can get back to its original purpose; not some site to just rant and do pointless things on. IA may know drama, but it sure as hell aint drama worth paying attention to, or rather it doesnt have the same substance that it used to a while back. now its just pointless random bashing.
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yeah i will be on that road everyday forever around 6 lol. i get out of work around 5:30-6 and take it home everyday. post up and i'll wave hahaha. and now you've seen my car lol.Originally Posted by Jimmy B
here's myon the whole rules thing:
You're going to have to be careful about this. If you become to "nazi-ish" about the whole thing you're slowly going to start losing your OG members and people that frequent the site (like everyday). Now I know we bash a lot, but it's usually for decent reason. AND if the person that is getting bashed (not meaning sponsors... I understand that rule) is going to get that butt hurt then they don't need to be on any forum. People that get it really hard, are usually the ones that completely suck at forum courtesy. I didn't get bashed one single time when I started. Because I know how to type and I know how speak and I know common forum courtesy. So you really need to play your cards right here... is it worth keeping some new memebers around to lose your main support base? I mean you're not going to get near as many members from noobs signing up as you will from people that have been here for 2-3 years that want all their friends to get on. I know I'm no moderator and I don't know all the ins and outs of this place... but I do have common sense. And it really sounds like if this is taken too seriously you will be shooting yourselves in the feet.
We should restock our pantry, order a ship roast from the butcher and lay in some George Straight and Reba McIntyre CD's and have a cookout. Invite all the guys from Swinging Richards and have a super cool party to celebrate this gayness.Originally Posted by admin
Originally Posted by Mr. Clean
dude, im not like a true OG of the site or anything, come on, seriously? how is this site going to loose OG's of this site. This is not the first time this site has gone under rule changes over the years and most of them are still hear or come back every now and then. Most of the time people leave this site is either, cause of the stupidity that has erupted on this site or cause they are at a point in their lives where they dont have a crazy amount of time to post. The OG's or people that love posting on this site will always stay around, regardless of rules. Hell most of the OG's probably arent the ones doing the aimless dumb posting and come in every now and then. Hell a lot of them are mods as well and they have put there two cents in to help the rule changes happen. This site has to evolve with times, but only to an extent where its not to crazy. I mean they put the anything goes rule in the whores lounge for a reason and look what it did, gave everyone new rules after a while. Mike was right, once you give some people an inch of lenience, they think you gave em a mile or two to run with it. which is not the case. Changes happen for a reason and there usually good ones.
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MR. CLEAN,Originally Posted by Mr. Clean
I understand your point. But how many other forums let you bash anyone. We at least still have some forums that you can do whatever you want. A lot of people join this board to be a part of something - a favorite item in there life; their car. So when that person gets on, and has a riced out ride, he/she gets bashed they leave. I dont want that. You know about the sponsor thing, so I dont have to go into detail. I was just annoyed at the amount of requests I had in the 3 weeks that I have taken over as ADMIN that it drove me insane. Everyone's compaint was "Why am I constantly getting talked down to, or bashed?"
No one is going to leave because of this. I promise you that. Just that when you have someone post a car and then all next 30 threads are about how bad your car is...fuk that. I personally wouldnt give a shit but there are tons of sensitive young people out there.
People post, I need help fixing my ride, this is whats wrong. Then they get hit with your so stupid, you dont know anything..WHAT? Not everyone knows how to do a engine swap, or even change there tire. So its done man. The rule is in EFFECT, and thats how its going to be. Im sorry you dont like it, but I need to keep IMPORTATLANTA.com growing.
Thanks.
I'm with Mr. Clean - the folks who get bashed in the forum are the same ones who get bashed in real life. I understand the "how do i change a tire?" post by a new guy on here... But that same kid who gets his panties all in a bunch, and has his parents send admin a cute little PM because somebody posted "GOOGLE SEARCH MOTHERF*KR," is probably the same kind of kid that got picked last at his tee-ball games and went crying to his parents. result = the whole entire little league gets a trophy and nobody learns how to make better plays [posts] and deal with criticism.
Yes, IA may be the school of hard knocks - but that's part of why i like it so much. I hope moderators can keep each other in check with this, especially after the complete lacking of moderator control AnthonyF displayed in his feedback thread last week.
hondatech learned this the hard way... after they implemented these rules member log on rates dropped.
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I thought this was a CAR-related site not no damn yellow pages.
All these new sponsors and new stuff going on is whack if you ask me.
We should be getting CAR RELATED sponsors, not no restaurant, churches, and other crazy unrelated stuff.
I don't think this forum has ever seen a group buy.
And I understand the rule or whatever, but is this not a public forum? I thought it was. Anyone should be able to speak their mind.
And I don't understand this.You guys would rather listen to a n00b about getting bashed and help him/her to be on this site then just deal with it because he/she isn't why this site has grown. It was us. I mean look at how many members that we have over 3k+ posts. We are everywhere. As long as IA keeps doing what it has for the last couple of years, it will grow whether that one n00b stays here or not.
In my opinion, you (admins) should be attending more car shows/meets, handing out stickers/t-shirts/banners whatever to get people on the site not having Applebees sponsor us.
But then again, fuck the old members, it's all about the money these days, aint it?
BUY MY HATCH <--click the link, cuz.
Originally Posted by HeLLo iM iZzY
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i believe the proof of this last note is in admin's sig
-jonathanOriginally Posted by admin
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since it's not about money, maybe you'd be happy to take the bill to maintain the server for us "old members"Originally Posted by HeLLo iM iZzY
here's an instance that just happened...
my friend [h23bb4] posted up in the columbus forum - i called him gay for mentioning how he is going to be working one someone else's "piece." (which obviously he meant someone else's car... common sense would tell that.)
his post and mine were deleted...
if this is a preview of what we can look forward to, then i have a feeling other small local forums will start popping up and IA will lose it's seeming "monopoly" in GA.
/rant
-jonathan
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that's EXACTLY what i think is going to happen. I'm going to say something off the wall to one of my buddies that admin doesn't know is my buddy and the shit will get deleted and it'll be ridiculous. There's going to be a whole lot of that shit just to make a point. and people are going to get tired of it and not get on as much as they used to because they can't do shit anymore.Originally Posted by se7en
and yes... honda-tech fucking tanked after they went to the new shit. the del Sol thread went from like over 200 posts/day to like 3. everyone just went to their own local forum. IA is on the verge of a southeastern forum, not just atl. so you don't want to start getting too persnickity right now or people will just give up. i mean how many noobs really pm'd you and called it quits, admin? like 1 a day tops? those are the guys that just don't need to be on forums anyway. and if you're going to say what forum lets you get away with half the stuff we do... then show me their active member numbers... i bet it's not 1000+ everyday like we have. this is a very good board and noobs that get butt hurt just need to keep moving and we'll get 8 more to replace them.
If you see something like this , PM AN ADMIN and LINK us to the thread and we will look at it and make a decision.Originally Posted by se7en
As far as what IZZY said, quit being a communist lol.
This site , like it or not, is a business, it COSTS MONEY to run, and operate, Upgrade, etc.
Everyone can pay $5 a month, or let us get sponsors. Plus the site is outgrowing CARS, there will always be CORE CAR people on here, but its branching out into other intersts and becoming more of a community.
theres nothing wrong with Applebees, or Chillis, or Playboy, or Guns N Ammo sponsoring the board, it brings more revenue which means a faster site, less bugs, more meets (that IA sponsors with PRIZES like they have always done) etc.
Im going to talk to the owners about T-shirts and hats to get made and im always out at MOST meets.
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You know people bitch on HT, but they are still there, and sponsors still pay. When a site gets so big, you either adapt, or end up like Import Lounge and drive everyone away.Originally Posted by Mr. Clean
Its not ALL about money, but come on, you have NO CLUE what it COSTS to run this site
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lol, well, i would PM a link - but everything was deleted... no evidence of what happened except for my and h23bb4's word (and my "f the world" post after i saw it gone.)Originally Posted by Vteckidd
Can someone give me an example of something a CAR forum has ever been succcessful at being other than a CAR FORUM? Yes, something in common brought everyone together here on IA, but a "community" it is not. I do have friends on here, i have met friends through this site... but trying to change it into something it is not will be a very, VERY complicated process that will most likely be the start of another lame forum.
Import Lounge was the freakin bomb when i started getting into cars. Import Atlanta soon took over because they had something IL did not... a basic freedom to post whatever you wanted, talk smack, call your friends GAY, and overall liberty with basic rules to keep the peace. (which is exactly what it had until recently)
This is why, i believe, this is a very bad idea. It's turning moderators who are supposed to make sure that folks don't kill each other on the forums, into the Politically Correct Police. Which always has bad results.
-jonathan
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You don't seem to be the brightest crayon in the box, eh?Originally Posted by Ed
There are other ways of making money for the website. MEETS, MEETS, MEETS. The stickers thing was a good idea, then they just disappeared. Also, the license plate frames was a good a Tunerfest. All it needed was more stuff like this and the money would be there. The admins might as well go down to the local chiropractor and ask them to sponsor the website.
All I'm saying is, if this is going to be a car related website, let it be car related.
And Mike, I'm not being a communist. I'm just saying what is on my mind. Is that not allowed as well now?
I really don't think this is a good idea BUT if it somehow pulls through, then good job.
Also, there is no way in hell you can compare HT to IA. Is the chiropractor sponsoring them? Nope. All sponsors are car related on there. Honda-Tech stuck to what their purpose of a forum was, which is Hondas/Acuras/Anything Car Related, not where I can find the best chiropractor in town.Originally Posted by Vteckidd
So you're saying we don't have enough money for this site to be up so now we are just branching off to anybody in town with a business to sponsor us so it can still be here? GET REAL DUDE.
Off all the meets that I've been into, I've only seen one with something about ImportAtlanta which was Tunerfest. Paul and whoever should be at the Varsity and the Sonics meets and all the other ones, handing shit out to get the name out there. Thats money right there as well.
But whatever, I really don't care.
I'm done with this thread.
BUY MY HATCH <--click the link, cuz.
look no one likes change, but its inevitable. The site has outgrown 5000 members, it costs more to run the site now than it did before. You really think MEETS generate income LOL. It doesnt. Tunerfest , as i understand it, they pretty much broke even every year, so it was put on just for YOU, the enthusiast.Originally Posted by HeLLo iM iZzY
This site is not about cars anymore, it hasnt been for A LONG TIME. People may JOIN because they are INTO CARS, but it migrated from a CAR SITE years ago IMO.
I mean we have photography people , Audio People, food people, gun people, sports people, etc. its actually VERY diverse.
I mean look at the TECH sections, they get 1/100th of the traffic that the WL get. The killsforum has been dead for awhile.
I mean if you think this is a CAR site, you are mistaken. Its a very big an diverse crowd, why not cater to that?
I mean eventually you will be able to read restaurant reviews, gun reviews, tire reviews, game reviews, movie reviews etc. You will get sponsors that offer discounts to your favorite places, that is helping YOU out while covering the cost it takes to grow the website, add new features, throw more meets/events, etc.
I think alot of you are looking way too far into it, as i have said 10 times, 99% of you wont notice a difference, just more CONTENT. Change is difficult for some people, but i promise you the experience will be much smoother and concise in the end once the growing pains are gone.
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you guys should really press the "schwag" section on the front page more... or better yet find someone on here who owns a place and will make IA shirts and hats and stickers and banners and all kinds of shit for the waaaaay downlow and sell them shits on here for hella profit. if people on here can get stickers for like $3-4 and shirts for like $15 and you can find somewhere to get them for $5/pc. no one on IA will care and I, for one, will buy a shirt no problem... cause i'm that kind of whore lol.
I'm sure the site is expensive to run but it looks like you guys have tons of sponsors. and if money is all you need there are ways to get it. there are enough members to where a little money from each person would really add up.
i just really genuinely think that cracking down THIS hard on the rules isn't going to solve much. i mean what was the core reason?
1) keeping more members around
2) looking good for the sponsors
3) less PMs for an admin or mod to look at
i haven't really seen a good answer to that question on why these rules are all in a sudden going to be enforced.
i understand we're almost to the point of beating a dead horse, but i just really don't want to have to worry about what i post now and that i might get a PM or the ban stick the next day. IA is essentially how i keep up with what 50-60+ people are doing at any given time. how else would know about all these little meets and what people are doing to their cars and blablablaba. as long as mods and admins keep a common sense POV then this will be ok, but you guys are going to see a lot of pushing back if it starts getting ridiculous (this is not a threat or anything, i'm just saying people are going to complain more than when we lost the goddamn user CP).
Yeah, if someone wants to sponsor the board, they can, why would we say no?Originally Posted by HeLLo iM iZzY
I dont know IA money situation and thats for the owners and thats NOT what im saying. Im saying to do what they want to do, which is upgrade Vbulletin so YOU have a USER CP, add new features, throw new events, upgrade server hardware to deal with the users we have on here, it COSTS MONEY.
Dude most of the OGs are approaching 30 or over 30. Many have families. Im not spending my thursday night at the Varsity passing out fliers to a bunch of ricer kids that are there to do burnouts. Then IF they do join the site, they get bashed anyway by guys like you an they leave. Doesnt really solve the problem does it? How are new members bringing revenue? Sponsors generate income, not USERS. USERS CAN dictate how much you CHARGE to sponsor. What i see is a chance to really diversify and bring alot of different stuff to the site. Hey why limit ourselves to parking lots for meets.
Why not support local businesses that most of us need or go to anyway? What if you get ina car wreck and need to see a chiropractor? why not have a list of 20 to choose from on IA? What if you want to go to a restaurant with your significant other and have no clue where to go? why not read a review or see links to websites of local run businesses to help you in your decision? The internet is VERY powerfull, why not use it?
I dont mean to sound condescending , but many of us run businesses, run our own business, etc and there are certain COMPROMISES you have to do to make the site BETTER.
Dont pass judgement until you have seen what is to come.
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I understand, and i PROMISE you and you can quote me, we will not start eliminating people and run this like a policed site. We are NOT here to police members, all we are asking is to show a little more restraint, and a little more politeness.Originally Posted by Mr. Clean
Again criticism is fine, but BASHING for no reason, isnt allowed. If you think something is questionable, please PM us an LINK US TO THE THREAD (WE CAN SEE DELETED POSTS) and we will determine what is what.
Hats,Tshirts are in the works
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I think another way to generate revenue would be to offer different levels of memberships to this forum, much like other well known and much larger sites already do....Not that what I'm saying is some monumental discovery or anything of the like but maybe it's something you guys should seriously consider.
Maybe add a ricer section so that we have a place to go where we can be appreciated and not just hated...:-)Originally Posted by Vteckidd
Friends come... and friends go... but Honda brothers and sisters are FOREVER
^^ it would create alot of bashing. that section would have to be STRONGLY watched by the mods.
Originally Posted by jellybean
There already is a ricer section, you illiterate fuck.
GTFO..this isn't the pic section. It ain't safe for you round these here parts.
these rules dont mean nothing...lol they never have!
Last time IA tried to cater to the rest of the world... we ended up with Import South....
I've been on this site daily pretty much from the very beginning of the very first version. I have managed to not bash on many people, and have never been banned. If I can do it, so can anyone else on here. It's not like they are asking for much, just be civil and act like you would if you were talking face-to-face with the other people - in church. Didn't your parents raise you to be reasonably civil? Everyone is over 18, so everyone SHOULD be able to act like adults - at least most of the time.
Now on the other hand, I have a question for vteckidd, admin, Julio, etc - about QD. If we have some newbie come in and post about "how great streetracing is" in somewhere other than the Whoreslounge, and QD comes in and "wishes that they crash and die in a fiery, painful death" (which he always does - definitely bashing on them), ARE YOU REALLY GOING TO BAN HIM????? This cannot be allowed to happen, as the earth would probably stop its rotation and explode......
Ill be honest that will be a case by case basis. If he disagrees with the kid for streetracing, so be it. If he hounds him around IA and posts in every thread the kid is in, then yeah, thats different.Originally Posted by David88vert
thats all i can really say
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see thats what i don't understand... :-) there is where you need to use the back button and go to another part of the forum if you just want to bash...:-) everyone should have a place to go to talk about their rides without being bashed all the time... if you want to bash it then start a thread in WL to bash but leave the other thread alone so that people who really care about what is being said can enjoy it and not muddy it up with a bunch of BS. I just don't understand why that is so hard to do...:-)Originally Posted by tdurr
Friends come... and friends go... but Honda brothers and sisters are FOREVER
Feel free to post and talk and do whatever you want, if it gets out of hand feel free to PM me or another admin/modOriginally Posted by jellybean
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i dont mean to bring down a great thing, because i really dont mind. But you all really cant be serious about this bashing, and harrassing issues, with the Red Light section up..... its like when IA had censored curse words..lol
Eh. When it's all said and done at least we still have the WL...It's better than nothing.
[QUOTE=BobbyFresh]There already is a ricer section, you illiterate fuck.
GTFO..this isn't the pic section. It ain't safe for you round these here parts.[/QUOTE]
so you are saying that only certain people can post pics of their cars in the pic sec?
you can bash me here all you want to... as the rules clearly state... but this is exactally what i mean... do you have to add all the hate to what you just said. i am not your buddy... and i nor you are just joking with me... so... what was all that for? it was not necessary!
Friends come... and friends go... but Honda brothers and sisters are FOREVER
[QUOTE=jellybean]Originally Posted by BobbyFresh
As you just mentioned, this is the one part where just about everything goes....that being said, if you don't want to be bashed then don't subject yourself to this part of the forums....kthnxdie!
[QUOTE=BobbyFresh]you are correct... but would it kill you to be nice???...:-) I am sure that on some level you could have some good advice for people... or even have something really worth saying... but treating people that way will not gain you or your words any respect...Originally Posted by jellybean
and you probably don't care... and if you don't... then why should i or anyone else...:-)
Friends come... and friends go... but Honda brothers and sisters are FOREVER
so are you guys ALWAYS going to take the side of the bashee? cause this jellybean chick just begs to get bashed all the time. do your research if you don't believe me.
[QUOTE=jellybean]Originally Posted by BobbyFresh
You finding what I say worthy, as you put it, is of no consequence to me. Seriously....I don't really care to have your respect either. Don't know you, don't want to. Take the Kumbaya shit elsewhere, please and thank you.