Airplane on a Treadmill

[OldsTech]

ok ok now that im done laughing at you cause i know more than you ill explain it for ya. the prop on a prop plane actually PULLS the airplane through the air and the jet pushes it..

OK, teach me.... Cuz how Im thinking of the theory on mythbuster and you must be different.... So a jet power aircraft would take off with a equal counter force on the ground to keep the aircraft stationary would lift off?

Ok didn't they prove an aircraft with a propeller would?

[BABY J]

Does any1 in this thread own a plane-treadmill other than me? NO. Did any1 else in this thread crash their primary plane off the front of it trying this other than me? NO. So until you guys try it like I did then STFU. Here is the video from my attempt:

Plane on a treadmill poll...

/thread

[OldsTech]

well then do this, next time its out on the ramp, go full throttles and just pull back on the yoke and see if it takes off at 0 airspeed. ill bet my future career that it doesnt.

LOL... I don't think so.... It would be suicide. It would be controllable even if you did get any lift....

[nreggie454]

Full scale test on NOW. Watch it and be amazed.

[OldsTech]

The closes thing to this is a maule... Which can take off out of a hangar...

[redrumracer]

OK, teach me.... Cuz how Im thinking of the theory on mythbuster and you must be different.... So a jet power aircraft would take off with a equal counter force on the ground to keep the aircraft stationary would lift off?

Ok didn't they prove an aircraft with a propeller would?

ok the propeller and the jet both move the airplane through the air. the way a plane takes off is by getting enough speed to move the air over and under the wing at a certain speed. thats how it takes off.

on a prop plane the prop actually creates an undesired effect on the plane when the air hits the tail and pushes it. the air coming off the prop actually swirls as its coming off.

and yes the jet would take off, the wheels on the airplane just freewheel, they dont apply any power what so ever to the ground.

[BABY J]

ok the propeller and the jet both move the airplane through the air. the way a plane takes off is by getting enough speed to move the air over and under the wing at a certain speed. thats how it takes off.

on a prop plane the prop actually creates an undesired effect on the plane when the air hits the tail and pushes it. the air coming off the prop actually swirls as its coming off.

and yes the jet would take off, the wheels on the airplane just freewheel, they dont apply any power what so ever to the ground.

Bullshit. I pay good money everytime I need new plane wheels.

[redrumracer]

Bullshit. I pay good money everytime I need new plane wheels.

lol well they do roll across the ground, and you do have to stop with your brakes which uses even more tires, but they last for ever.

[nreggie454]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPFu7shIN3g

/thread

[BABY J]

OK - let me stop being silly:

THIS ends the debate:

http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/...&postcount=595

[BABY J]

oh yeah - forgot 1:

http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/...&postcount=562

[OldsTech]

and yes the jet would take off, the wheels on the airplane just freewheel, they dont apply any power what so ever to the ground.

Agreed 100%..

Air has to be goin over the wings to get lift off, which comes from the the propeller/jet pushing the aircraft foward... But what I was saying is that a propeller on a aircraft in some app should push enough air over/under the wings to give lift.

For Example a Super Cub... There is a video of a Super cub lifting off the ground and was stationary

Where did the idea of an airplane gets power thur there wheels come from anywayz?

[redrumracer]

Agreed 100%..

Air has to be goin over the wings to get lift off, which comes from the the propeller/jet pushing the aircraft foward... But what I was saying is that a propeller on a aircraft in some app should push enough air over/under the wings to give lift.

For Example a Super Cub... There is a video of a Super cub lifting off the ground and was stationary

Where did the idea of an airplane gets power thur there wheels come from anywayz?

yea one thing they dont say is that they had like a 40 knot headwind that day. and it actually took less than 25 feet to take off. that plus the cub has an extremely low takeoff speed.

[OldsTech]

Heres a good video of a Super Cub.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfeMLQNe57E

[OldsTech]

yea one thing they dont say is that they had like a 40 knot headwind that day. and it actually took less than 25 feet to take off. that plus the cub has an extremely low takeoff speed.

True but all the better.

[redrumracer]

Heres a good video of a Super Cub.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfeMLQNe57E

they are awesome planes cant deny that.

[Juggernaut]

LOL. Redrum seems to be the only one here that didn't google flight info.


Redrum, kill your parents and use the insurance money to buy Garmin's Synthetic Vision. Incredible. Youtube it if you haven't seen it already.

[redrumracer]

LOL. Redrum seems to be the only one here that didn't google flight info.


Redrum, kill your parents and use the insurance money to buy Garmin's Synthetic Vision. Incredible. Youtube it if you haven't seen it already.

ive already seen it, read about it in a mag.

[redrumracer]

oh juggernaut and others,

this might be the part where i add that im a pilot.

[BABY J]

So am I.

[Juggernaut]

oh juggernaut and others,

this might be the part where i add that im a pilot.

I had gathered that. Reading about it and flying with are two different things. Closest thing you'll get to Mil-spec technology for a while.

[OldsTech]

oh juggernaut and others,

this might be the part where i add that im a pilot.

I think we pick that up from all the Abb. like VFR, ILS, ADF, VOR, GPS, DME, HSI, RMI, D.G., TCAS, and etc, ect...

[redrumracer]

I had gathered that. Reading about it and flying with are two different things. Closest thing you'll get to Mil-spec technology for a while.

yea if you have 12k sitting around for the base model

[redrumracer]

I think we pick that up from all the Abb. like VFR, ILS, ADF, VOR, GPS, DME, HSI, RMI, D.G., TCAS, and etc, ect...

well atleast i didnt use v speeds

[Juggernaut]

I think we pick that up from all the Abb. like VFR, ILS, ADF, VOR, GPS, DME, HSI, RMI, D.G., TCAS, and etc, ect...

You have AIDS and HIV, I don't want to confuse you but those are both STD's. Maybe you should see a doctor ASAP before you arrive at the hospital DOA. Your wake would probably be BYOB anyway you cheap bastard. STFU and GTFO before I make you DIAF you POS.

[Juggernaut]

yea if you have 12k sitting around for the base model

is it only 12k? For some reason I thought it was more. Oh well, I have a rich uncle that pays for most of my gadgets

[redrumracer]

is it only 12k? For some reason I thought it was more. Oh well, I have a rich uncle that pays for most of my gadgets

oh no, thats just the barebones model from what i read, they easily go up to 30k with optional equip if i remember right.

[Psycho]

oh no, thats just the barebones model from what i read, they easily go up to 30k with optional equip if i remember right.

I'd sway a 2JZ into it, then call the whole kills forum out.

[redrumracer]

I'd sway a 2JZ into it, then call the whole kills forum out.

from a rolling start right? as in i fly by you near my stall speed and you start at like 20 and go to 100 or 120 right?

[redrumracer]

i mean the lil ole plane only has 160 hp and only revs to 2500 rpm.

EDIT: oh wait i forgot about the 2jz part. make that 1000hp but having a gear reduction for the prop. thatll work.

[Psycho]

i mean the lil ole plane only has 160 hp and only revs to 2500 rpm.

Is that on or off bottle?

[redrumracer]

Is that on or off bottle?

off the bottle, but it is running 100ll fuel.

[Ruiner]

We all know it won't. Me RUINER and JAIMECBR900, SPEEDMINDED and a few others proved this years ago.

Sure about that? We can check my previous HUGE thread where I said that it WOULD take off.

[BABY J]

^^ read this entire thread b4 you say that.

[speedminded]

Not following here. How is it the same principle. I talking an aircraft with a propeller and a jet that uses thrust of the engine to make the aircraft go forward. An Aircraft with an propeller most of the time blows air over the wings to give lift. Where a jet propells the aircraft forward and the air from the speed on the aircraft lift the aircraft. But some jet aircraft have the engines mounted aft of the aircraft which maybe the suction of the engine could have enough to lift the aircraft

You're joking right?

[tdurr]

^ duh. gotta be. other wise, im gonna slap him.

[redrumracer]

i see yall last 2 didnt read the whole thing where i semi explained it to him huh?

[Sport1.3]

LOL @ THIS BEING OLD AS BRETT AND STILL BEING DEBATED

[speedminded]

i see yall last 2 didnt read the whole thing where i semi explained it to him huh?

Explaining it, giving examples, and creating a tv show out of it proving it still doesn't make someone understand. Oldstech is an airplane mechanic and
thinks the props blow air over the wings to create lift? *sigh*

[EJ25RUN]

Explaining it, giving examples, and creating a tv show out of it proving it still doesn't make someone understand. Oldstech is an airplane mechanic and
thinks the props blow air over the wings to create lift? *sigh*

I think a visual aid will help to understand what your trying to say much better.





On the other hand, on an ekranoplan, It is the air being directed under the wings from the prop/jet engine that creates lift.