Originally Posted by SuperChicken
Both of you are entirely correct. And Simon, I like the way you think! I ride a Honda VTR1000F SuperHawk (my screen name refers to it), with lots of suspension and braking mods; only a jet kit and slip-ons for engine related mods. It is probably the best set up bike I've ever ridden, racebikes included...and only about 115 whp. 72 ft/lbs really is nice!
It's NOT all about horsepower, it's about the package, and using it well. I just don't enjoy riding, say, an R1 to about 60% of its capability in the mountains when I can ride my bike to 90% of its in the same conditions...AND be faster and smoother. MUCH more rewarding and satisfying!:goodjob::goodjob::D