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    exactly
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    It's part of human nature, everyone has to find someone to blame for purposes of closure.

    Bush is the scapegoat!

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    it's one big clusterfuck over there...the federal govt needs to go over there and take control of the entire operation....

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    Thats what they are doing now... Notice all the troops and Natl. Gaurds in there now and all the supplies rolling in
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    people need to stop pointing fingers and argue about nothing and actually do something about it
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    I personally think it's "ok" to have his own opinion.... but on a TELETHON for people who are STILL in trouble, to try and spread your own bullshit political propaganda is just bullshit. Fuck Kanye West.
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    Yeah I can care less what is opinion is but when he tries to use a telethon to say it that is bullshit, and they to say the presdient hates blacks is even worse. People like him is why racism still exsists
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    Correct me if I'm wrong and heard the tape incorrectly, Kanye said George Bush doesnt care about black people"

    "doesnt care"and "hate" are two very different words with two very different meanings. Just thought I'd point that out The clip was funny as shit though

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    Well same thing, He is trying to act like a fuckin racist and say the WHITE MAN doesnt care... Shit gets fucking old
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    I didn't really hear where he said "white man" but he did say "Bush".

    Hate means to feel hostility or animosity toward, or to detest.

    To not care, is to be negligent or showing a lack of consideration, as in unconcerned; I don't really see how these are the same thing?

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    and if Bush was black do you honestly think he would have said that, No.
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    The Rev. Jesse Jackson said cities had been dismissed by the Bush administration because Mr. Bush received few urban votes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse Jackson
    "Many black people feel that their race, their property conditions and their voting patterns have been a factor in the response," Mr. Jackson said, after meeting with Louisiana officials yesterday. "I'm not saying that myself, but what's self-evident is that you have many poor people without a way out."
    In my opinion, and thats all it is, I dont really see race entering the picture. I just think everyone underestimated the destruction this would cause.

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    LOL that is some funnay ass shit. Chris Tucker, his face is priceless. Kanye.....thank you. Thank you for making me laugh. oh and for discrediting the organization that allowed you to speak. Way to go!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greddypacked
    Not to down you guys parade but Kanye is one of the most artistic rappers/ artists around.
    No he isn't. Later, QD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett
    you are one comment away from being banned,
    He's actually past that comment, Brett. I should've never unbanned him. He's been an annoyance since he came back. Later, QD.
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    After much thought I kind of like what kanye did, not for what he said but to have the nerve to do it. I agree that it wasnt the proper venue but I think he spoke for a LOT of people that are afraid to do what he did.

    Kanye has done nothing but gain more support from the black community and I doubt he cares if he is mainstream today or underground tomorrow. Love him or hate him the guy makes good music.

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    this is what he said in full

    I hate the way they portray us in the media. We see a black family that says they're looting. We see a white family that says they're looking for food, and you know it's been five days because most of the people are black and even for me to complain about I would be a hyprocrite because I try to turn away from the TV because it's too hard to watch. I've even been shopping before even giving a donation so now I'm calling my business manager right now to see what's the biggest amount that I can give. And just to imagine if I was down there, those are my people down there, so anybody out there that wants to do anything with the setup the way America is setup to help the poor, the black people, the less well off as slow as possible. I mean the Red Cross is doing everything they can. We already realize that a lot of the people that can help are at war right now fighting another way and they've given them permission to go down and shoot us. - Kanye

    George Bush doesn't care about black people.

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    Kanye is Gay and his music sucks..

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    dude was already banned... k sorry back to topic


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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett
    and if Bush was black do you honestly think he would have said that, No.
    is that supposed to make any sense?

    It made me laugh so hard...i knew you all would flip out on here. I couldnt wait to see what you all would say. ANy opinion is ok, as long as its not agianst bush....as thats how it seems. BUsh really doesnt make any effort to reach out to the black community. ONce he refused to meet with the NAACP way back, it was a rap for him, i mean if a minority doesnt want you in office why not try and make the relationship better while in office. Bush never misses his NRA meetings tho. Thank god theres only 2 1/2 years left.....cant wait for the big "i told u so".

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    Quote Originally Posted by JITB
    is that supposed to make any sense?

    It made me laugh so hard...i knew you all would flip out on here. I couldnt wait to see what you all would say. ANy opinion is ok, as long as its not agianst bush....as thats how it seems. BUsh really doesnt make any effort to reach out to the black community. ONce he refused to meet with the NAACP way back, it was a rap for him, i mean if a minority doesnt want you in office why not try and make the relationship better while in office. Bush never misses his NRA meetings tho. Thank god theres only 2 1/2 years left.....cant wait for the big "i told u so".
    What exactly are you referring to as the "big I told you so"? Bush doesn't hate blacks, and if your trying to make it sound like the majority of blacks hate bush, I'm gonna have to seriously doubt that... I'm not sure on what the percent is of the racial makeup of this country... I'm going to assume White has 40%+ still but either way, Bush has won the elections TWICE.... that means it's alot more than just white folks voting for Bush. And you gotta take into account, that ALOT of white folks aren't Bush fans, therefore there votes don't count for him.. He got 50% of the votes somehow... and they weren't all white votes.
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    And then when Bush term is up.. The next president will get blame too and people will talk shit about him... I cant wait when hillary Clinton wins if she does.. All hell will break loose.

    People will never be happy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio
    And then when Bush term is up.. The next president will get blame too and people will talk shit about him... I cant wait when hillary Clinton wins if she does.. All hell will break loose.

    People will never be happy...
    omg.... if hillary clinton wins I may actually move... or atleast go into a 4 year coma. in her case, I dont care if the opponent is charles manson, the OTHER person is getting my vote... not clinton.
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    Actually caucasian is a 70% makeup of the US.
    African-American comes in 2nd with a 13% I believe. (This was according to the 2000 census, the census only come out every 4 years and I haven't seen the 2004 census yet)

    The misconception comes from those of us that live on the east and west coasts. There are still quite a few middle area states where when I meet people they have relatives that have never seen black people in real life. Not like Grandparents either, Brothers and Sisters.

    People like Kanye aren't they only reason 'racism' exists. There are plenty of people that still have a deep seated 'ill-regard' for blacks. Shit some schools in GA still have segregated proms b/c of the community (when the student comity tried to integrate it they met with disaster). There are some things you're not going to be able to fully understand because there is no way on earth you can know what it is like to go through serious, lifetime, discrimination unless you are part of that people that have recieved that discrimination. You can say it is stupid all you want but you do not know the lasting effects that certain things have on a community unless you are a part of it.

    Do I think all of the problems relate to 'race' in this situation? No.
    Do I think totally disregarding 'race' in any sitation is stupid? Yes.

    Sadly enough America isn't as foward thinking as we want to believe.
    You do have to wonder why it took so long to help them when it takes us half the time to help people overseas.
    There was also discussion that I read online (It was a letter from Michael Moore, a bit biased yes) where Bush actually decreased a budget that LA has for levvy funding or something like that for the 3rd year in a row. Let's face it they don't need sandbags and wood they need a fucking DAM! I had a friend have a wooden levvy support snap and shoot 3' in front of his face and into his front door (this was long before the Hurricane mind you).

    On the subject of looting vs. survival. Yes you have some dumb fucks that will still worry about stealing a 40' TV. However one must pose the questions as to why the media is showing that? Is it a novelty? Is it funny? Does it help your ratings? What purpose does it ULTIMATELY serve? We know people are looting at this point.

    In the long and short, I attempt to not talk shit about things I can't fully grasp. Kanye West can't fully grasp the scope of what Bush has to deal with. you guys can't fully grasp what it is like to be black and broke and to carry a rather downtrodden mentallity throughout generations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyPer50
    omg.... if hillary clinton wins I may actually move... or atleast go into a 4 year coma. in her case, I dont care if the opponent is charles manson, the OTHER person is getting my vote... not clinton.


    lol. ill start working on the 4 year coma vaccine, alright?

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    On a side note: I was typing so much other shit that I forgot something-

    It seems like someone payed Kanye to say that. You can see the emotion in Kanye's whole prescense, it is that of a scared child even though he is trying to portray it as anger. Hence the lack of smootheness in his speech as he was reading the teleprompter.
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    We may not have tons of smart people in this country, but I would like to think people will not be stupid enough to put Hillary into office if she runs in '08
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevykev
    Preach the word Brotha Kevin
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyPer50
    What exactly are you referring to as the "big I told you so"? Bush doesn't hate blacks, and if your trying to make it sound like the majority of blacks hate bush, I'm gonna have to seriously doubt that... I'm not sure on what the percent is of the racial makeup of this country... I'm going to assume White has 40%+ still but either way, Bush has won the elections TWICE.... that means it's alot more than just white folks voting for Bush. And you gotta take into account, that ALOT of white folks aren't Bush fans, therefore there votes don't count for him.. He got 50% of the votes somehow... and they weren't all white votes.
    i aitn talkin about bush not caring about blacks. The I told u so will come from the condition of the US's economy and wellbeing at the end of his term...THey all ways compare is the US has gotten better or worse...it hasnt got much better. The us have spent the last 6 years debaitng on if bush is doing good or bad, that alone is just stupid, everytime he makes a decision its higly quesitoned it seems like none trusts him to make hsi own decisions. no more puppets in office plzzzz Not to sound like a bush hater, but is there anything that anyone can say has gotten better since he has been in office?

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    People in LA love BUSH....


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    yes they did Julio.... its a shame he wont be able to serve yet another term... oh well.. Im anxious to see who is going to run for office this next term... Im 100% Republican...

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    The statement itself wasnt so shocking itself.. I think people are only over reacting because Kanye was out of place saying that on national TV.. Like I could understand Jesse Jackson or someone similar saying something along those lines.. But like most of Kanye's antics, he was clearly seeking attention with that statement...

    Btw.. Chris Tucker's expression was priceless..

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    i never liked him anyways, this outrage just makes it worse

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevykev

    wow..thats... uh huh...

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    ^ yeah ummm it came outta nowhere?

    haha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greddypacked
    Not to down you guys parade but Kanye is one of the most artistic rappers/ artists around. This guy can come out w/ whateva and make it good. Look what he did w/ rapping on religion, man took it to another level. Not everyone is going to agree w/ opinions especially open minded musicians that can speak to the world. Kanye is just speaking w/ out all of the medias attention, he's speaking on a level they cant really go. I dont believe in what he saying, but he can speak what the media really cant.
    your fucking stupid if i saw you on the street id kick your jaw to the curb youll need kanye to sing a religous song for you

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    Quote Originally Posted by brokecivic
    your fucking stupid if i saw you on the street id kick your jaw to the curb youll need kanye to sing a religous song for you
    damn is it that serious? its just an opinion...

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    hahah..wtf is going on in here now

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