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yea man all muslims ARE NOT terrosits so stfu ..........theres alot of muslim people on here and u dont hear them talking **** about other peoples religions do u ? :thinking: no cause they mind there own business .........so stfu racist bi*ch.:2up: :2up: :2up:
lol motivation.... ill praise allah tonite for you..
>>>RAN :2up: :2up: :2up:
so what rod got shoved up your ass? Did your camel leave you?
overreaction? oh well, one less creepy pedo dude here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ran
I'm all for doing whatever it takes for defense of this country and its citizens......... but I thought we're talking about a union working for the benefits of its constituents who are undeniably American, you may or may not agree with it, but since when did it become a terrorist thing? Am I missing something here, or are we jsut assuming that all 1 billion+ muslims in this world are terrorists?Quote:
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lol im on ur side, motivation is a troubled individual..
oh my bad lol idk wat that means til i looked it up lolz my bad :D
they were adapted from pagan holidays, yes, but there is no doubt that they are now christian holidays. your logic is saying that no one should get a holiday but christians.Quote:
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i think what you were trying to say is that its fvcked up that instead of labor day, their employees will get a less american holiday like eid. and that is the beginning of the muslim takeover. or something. sounds intolerant and paranoid to me.
thank you sir.
Yudalicious for the WIN!! Well said my friend!!
You know Ive seen you posting against Islam for a minute now, I usually dont say anything cause some of you are morons. But you have been constantly posting against Islam. Im a grown man and usually dont say **** like this because everyone has there own opinion, but you need to chill out. It gets offensive and all the posts that follow have no relevent to the topic or are trying to degrade Islam, I dont go for that ****. Thats why I dont come into the whorelounge but I have a post in here that I have been watching so scrolling through I see the word Islam or Muslim and I read it. You must have no Muslim firends, so thats why you speak against Muslims so much, or obviously a muslim has whooped your ass or something happened in your life that makes you despise Muslims. Your a human just like a Muslim is. Meet one and learn something about them thats true. Your topics sound just like when blacks were trying to get equality as whites, Im sure you would have been the racist one coming in here and posting about that **** also.Quote:
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Have a nice day.
LOL @ the argument breaking out. Awesome.
I typically do not feel comfortable chiming in on issues like this, but I figured I'd throw in my :2cents: .
What gets me about all this (something that has been brought up in this thread, but not really covered) is that Labor Day was just replaced. I understand that Eid is a religious holiday to Islam and I would never dream of taking that away from the people of Islam. I do have a problem that Labor Day was taken from the American people though. As previously said, Labor Day is the day that is there to honor and celebrate the people who have, and still do, work to move America forward. Regardless of what nationallity or faith a person is they will have the day off from the job they work. Now, replace that with Eid and 700 of 1200 workers get to celebrate a religious holiday that is important to them. What does the day mean to the 500 other workers who do not celebrate Eid? It means nothing to them. So, Labor Day (if celebrated for its original reason) means something to 1200/1200 workers. Eid means something to 700/1200 workers, nothing to 500/1200.
Bottom line: Give Eid as a holiday if you feel that is what your company wants to do to show your cultural diversity, but for God's sake, don't take away Labor Day or any other American holiday for that matter.
Cliff's: Give them both days off. :goodjob:
Don't get me wrong, I don't quite share the "kill them all like animals" mentality as my co-worker does. My growing concern comes when there's news practically everyday about companies being sued, government standards being changed, "rights" being violated, or whatever else concerning Muslims or Islam. That's right here in our own country that this is happening. However, I'm fairly certain that my problem isn't so much with Islam or whatever as much as it is the idiotic liberals that are constantly bending over backwards to accomodate these asanine demands on a daily basis. Take my rants with a grain of salt and don't get your panties in a wad.Quote:
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P.S. - I do have a few Muslim friends and even they think that most of the crap making the news about Muslim demands and "rights" is insane.
They could have just replaced another religious holiday such as Christmas or something. But a national holiday for the American people? Come on.Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ Maestro
I don't think replacing any holiday is correct. The whole holiday thing here is really stupid to begin with when you look at actual time off. The U.S. is at the bottom of the list for holidays off. Countries in Europe and Asia celebrate many more days because they understand that their people work alot and deserve time off. So, Americans already work more than the rest of the world so why take away the one day that honors that work.
Ran, I'm not for replacing anything, just add another holiday. I'll gladly hit the lake for Eid, but I won't celebrate it for what it means...it would just be another day off of work. :D
Eh, I guess that works too. lolQuote:
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i was gonna say the same damn thing... i noticed a few of his posts like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by AtifSajid
like someone said above, I personally enjoy getting a day off on a holiday i dont celebrate. what the hell is the problem?
edit: RAN.. are you saying you wouldnt have a shyt fit if they replaced CHRISTMAS with eid? because labor day means more because its more "american"? please. riots would break out. take a stance and stick to it.
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u rasict *****r!!:2up: :2up: :2up:
Seriously don't you have a life to live?
GTFO
I don't know where the hell you work but I have never had a paid religious holiday. Also it seem slike you didn't bother to read the article. Tyson didn't offer them anything the UNIONS requested it. So your arguement of the business trying to diversify is garbage.Quote:
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Reading>YOU
Right but Labor Day is a FEDERAL holiday. I think the correct course of action would be to allow muslims to take it off w/o penalty not switch it out for a Federal Holiday.Quote:
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I can guarantee you right now whoever the next president is will not make a big impact on the mess we are in right nowQuote:
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Simply a dumb post. I don't find anything racist in this thread.Quote:
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you must have a shyt job then.
you're right, i didnt read the article. i reacted to rans dumbass quote underneath the link. if you will look back to what i posted... you'll see that i am all about giving eid holidays without penalizing for missing work/school. and if the UNIONs asked for it, the UNION represents the employees, right? so... keep labor day (the federal holiday to commemorate the plight of workers...), but fvck the employees of tyson, enough of whom need a day off for religious services to ask for it?.... RIGHT.
like i said before.... leave labor day as it is, but getting eid as a holiday does not = muslim takeover of the US. ;)
Boycott tyson!!
the ****in truth right there!!! I have some buddies in Canada, whose ready to become a mounty? Because I am.Quote:
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Like Atifsajid and Sledlude have been saying. You are on a roll sir, watch where you end up. You are making ridiculous claims based on the actions shown by one of the most American institution's there is, a Labor Union, democracy in the work place. So what if they want to celebrate Eid instead of Labor Day? The Tyson workers elected boad-members of the Union and now they are doing what they feel is right and moral within their power. You are telling me American ways are being lost because of this? You're crazy. While I agree it is BS that Labor Day isn't being celebrated, does it really matter? No one does sh.it for Labor Day anyways, the amount of money that moves in this country during Eid, you'd be surprised.
Islam is just like every other religion, would you not be mad if you had to work on Christmas or your respective major religious holiday? What you say is completely uncalled for and childish. While I agree Labor Day should not have been replaced but merely Eid should have been added on, perhaps they should have cut out some other holiday instead..like Columbus Day, who the hell celebrates that BS anyhow?
Motivation: Please tell me you honestly believe "Winter Holiday" didn't start out because Christmas happened to be on Dec. 25 and I will have the laughing fit of my life. Look at this list of National Holidays:
http://www.opm.gov/Operating_Status_...edhol/2008.asp
Check the one under Dec. 25. Damn Christian's taken over America. "Where is my passport?"
Who lied to you and told you Labor Unions were American? They have historically been anti-american and anti-federalism. In fact, labor unions are the cause of a significant number of major issues in america. While I certainly respect the need for labor unions, the very idea of calling them an "American Institution" is off base.
I am not a supporter of labor unions, but the fact that they are the new America is real. Labor unions have thrived in America and they are infact an American Institution. The beauty of this country is that it is a melting pot in which all are meant to live in harmony no matter their color, religion, native tounge, or beliefs so their view of an American Institution maybe quite different from yours.Quote:
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You are Christian I guess? Well Allah is your god! silly. ITS THE SAME GOD.
Allah = Yahweh = God = Bog(polish/russian) = Gott (german) = Dieu (french)... ect. Also this is a secular nation based on religious freedom. If anything it be best to not to cater to any religion. I used to work for Walgreens and I had to work every Christmas, Labor Day.. ect. If you want it off, request it.
America isnt a christian nation, muslim nation, jewish nation... it is simply a nation founded by immigrants. Every single one of you reading this is the decendant of or is an immigrant (except native americans) who came here for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
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The problem is that 9/11/2001, TERRORISTS, who happened to be muslim extremists attacked our country. After that, Every Right wing enthusiast decided that we needed to nuke the middle east because 2% of their population is part of a group that hates the fact that we allow freedoms that go against their beliefs.
The point when it boils down is:
-They were the exception, not the rule. So instead of punishing a religion for those few, how about supporting the effort to punish the people responsible for the 9/11 attacks.
-This country was based on religious belief. In my opinion I do not believe any religious holiday (and I do include easter, and christmas, advent, as well as good friday, Tu B'shvat, Passover, Yom Kippur, Chunakah, Ramadan, Eid]al]Fitr, or Kwanzaa) should be mandated by the US government. I think that if you want off then you must do the same thing you would do if you wanted to go on vacation. There is a pretty nice line in the bill of rights:
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The American separation of church and state rests upon respect for the church; the [European anticlerical] separation, on indifference and hatred of the church, and of religion itselfc. The constitution did not create a nation, nor its religion and institutions. It found them already existing, and was framed for the purpose of protecting them under a republican form of government, in a rule of the people, by the people, and for the people
I really am struggling to see where the big deal is. Tyson, as stated before is a private company, and if they want to give these guys the day off, they dont need a reason to. The only people they have to answer to is their union and board of Directors.