Is it ok for ANYONE to use the "N" Word

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Originally Posted by BABY J

^^ I think you are personalizing it - I am not talking directly to you Homey. LOL

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thats cool. im not butthurt over it, im just trying to have an intelligent debate. you seem pretty cool in my books... :D

Mikes boyfriend rolled over and woke him up "honey, the views on" :gay:


"OOO I LOVE THAT STAR JONES, AND THAT WHOOPI, WHAT A WOMAN!"



p.s. just ****in with you mike. I agree with you totally, i think it's ridiculous to use the word, especially when black people use it all day on eachother and then when we say it's different. I remember in 7th grade we had a class discussion over this, and i had alot of black friends, and they said to my teacher " well if my boy over there came up and was like sup *****?!" i'd be like what up man, but if that random white boy over there did it, i'd get pissed. It's a friends thing most of them put it. If yo u know them well enough, they don't care.. but if you don't know them, it's derogitory.. even if it's another black person.. at least some of them are that way. I really don't know, it seems each person has a different take on it, i just think it should be outlawed all together, or just used as it's real definition an ignorant person, and not racial at all.. but it's history will not allow that. so BAN that ****. :cheers:

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Originally Posted by willum14pb

Mikes boyfriend rolled over and woke him up "honey, the views on" :gay:


"OOO I LOVE THAT STAR JONES, AND THAT WHOOPI, WHAT A WOMAN!"

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:eek: reps

Why do people have such thin skins?
Do you realize that people have the right to be racist and can express that pretty much any way that want? It's completely legal.
You have the power to ignore ignorant comments. Their use of a word or statement can only matter to you if you value their opinion.
Grow a thicker skin. Human nature is derogatory - and legally they can call you whatever they want. Why on earth would you let it bother you? Grow up people.

ok so im gonna put my word in on it!!!!!........

i am probably the most open-minded person on earth:D......but even when i hear a black person say "ill hit u up nigg@" or "iight nigg@".....the hairs on my back stand up!!!!!..........

I DUNNO WHY BECAUSE I DIDNT GO THROUGH SLAVERY!!!!

theres only been on two occasions when ive heard a white person say [email protected] dont hear it all that much in public!!!.........my neighbor was repeating a scene from the dave chapelle show and i was at a party and this whit chick was like u my ***!!!!!...........for some reason that didnt even bother me

if some old country fack came out of his rusted truck and said "hey nigg@" i would be like uhhhhhhh :wtf:........

bottomline is i stopped using the word prolly after 11th grade because ive heard from white people it makes them feel uncomfortable.......ive been in uncomfortable situations so i know and i dont use it.....

ITS 2008 AND IF A WHITE DUDE MY AGE WAS 2 BE LIKE "WASSUP NIGG@" im not gonna sweat it ill prolly just say wassup

Final note: there is no way in hell u can compare the word cracker to n!gger!!!!........1

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Originally Posted by David88vert

Why do people have such thin skins?
Do you realize that people have the right to be racist and can express that pretty much any way that want? It's completely legal.
You have the power to ignore ignorant comments. Their use of a word or statement can only matter to you if you value their opinion.
Grow a thicker skin. Human nature is derogatory - and legally they can call you whatever they want. Why on earth would you let it bother you? Grow up people.

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Yea, in a sense, everyone needs to stop getting so damn butt hurt over WORDS. They are AFTER ALL WORDS. They have no bearing on your life, your mental health, or your physical health. So really.. who gives a ****? Someone could say whatever the hell they want t o me and i won't get mad. You could come up the most random person ever that i've never met and be like "i ****ed your mom and you're a stupid chink eyed ***** ******." And i'd just laugh. I just think the reason it's still such a problem is because parents can't let go of it.. and they teach that it's such a horrible thing in school. If we never knew that ****** was a racist term, and we just thought it means "an ignorant person" which it is defined as, it wouldn't be a big deal.. The US makes this a problem with everyone and every age group because they refuse to let go of racism. It's entertainment i guess?

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Originally Posted by willum14pb

You could come up the most random person ever that i've never met and be like "i ****ed your mom and you're a stupid chink eyed ***** ******."

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does this mean you're a chink? :D jk

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Originally Posted by willum14pb

Yea, in a sense, everyone needs to stop getting so damn butt hurt over WORDS. They are AFTER ALL WORDS. They have no bearing on your life, your mental health, or your physical health. So really.. who gives a ****? Someone could say whatever the hell they want t o me and i won't get mad. You could come up the most random person ever that i've never met and be like "i ****ed your mom and you're a stupid chink eyed ***** ******." And i'd just laugh. I just think the reason it's still such a problem is because parents can't let go of it.. and they teach that it's such a horrible thing in school. If we never knew that ****** was a racist term, and we just thought it means "an ignorant person" which it is defined as, it wouldn't be a big deal.. The US makes this a problem with everyone and every age group because they refuse to let go of racism. It's entertainment i guess?

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i wish it could be like that but it would still take me some time to get used to it!!!!!..........1

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Originally Posted by Ed

does this mean you're a chink? :D jk

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WTF YOU STUPID ASS ****ING NGGR ****ING **** YOU!!!!!:2up::2up::2up::2up:




:runs off crying: :cry:

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Originally Posted by willum14pb

WTF YOU STUPID ASS ****ING NGGR ****ING **** YOU!!!!!:2up::2up::2up::2up:

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:D

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Originally Posted by Ed

:D

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:cheers:

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Originally Posted by Mr. KiDD

I was just curious how some other poeple see it being used.

I personally dont have a problem with other people using it, it doesnt infuriate me, but what bothers me is the use of it by CERTAIN people and then in the next sentence they complain about how bad our society is.

I mean how can Kanye criticize Imus when he uses the EXACT same hatefull racist words.

that is my problem.

Like i guess the issue i see is that a black person can tell me that im not allowed to use the word, its disrespectfull, racist, etc. Then they turn around and use the EXACT SAME WORD like it means nothing.

I think its just a hypocritical thing to do.

See white people dont go around calling each other whitey, or honkey, or white trash, or redneck. None that i know at least do that.

I really feel the blame falls with these ass hat celebrities (like Star Jones and Goldberg and others) that push this equal but seperate societys.

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I agree with the hypocritical part. Not saying I've never used the word, but I cut out using it. If your going to complain about inequality and promote it at the same time whats the use?

I've known plenty of white people that call themselves white trash etc. Hell there's even a person around here in Conyers that has a lifted truck sporting '' White Trash" in big letters on his front windshield.

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Originally Posted by MistaCee

I agree with the hypocritical part. Not saying I've never used the word, but I cut out using it. If your going to complain about inequality and promote it at the same time whats the use?

I've known plenty of white people that call themselves white trash etc. Hell there's even a person around here in Conyers that has a lifted truck sporting '' White Trash" in big letters on his front windshield.

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ill be damned the day i see a car with a big as$ decal that says nigg@!!!!!!......cmon now!!!!............1

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Originally Posted by BABY J

Why would a white man WANT to use it is a better question.

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a long time ago white men DID use it, and it was wrong then. ANd its wrong now.

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Originally Posted by shagwAg3n

1) i hope you were watching a rerun bc i cannot otherwise believe they're still talking about this retarded ass bs

2) so long as black ppl hang on to the word n_gger and all other slang forms of it, and recognize ppl of their skin color as such, then EVERYONE will cling to it

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It happened yesterday morning , and i saw a highlight of it on Fox News.

I couldnt find the youtube yet

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Originally Posted by BABY J

^^

PEOPLE are sometimes retarded. NOT just black people. And what other way is there to say "a typical white woman" when you are indeed referring to a "typical white woman"? LOL. Newcasters say it ALL the time when referring to who Hillary brought to the polls. Again - that's just b*tches being too sensitive.

I personally don't give a sh*t either way. But IMO, Imus HAD to know he was f*ckin w/ his meal ticket when he said what he said. PERIOD. And THAT'S why he said it b/c he's a sensationalist. So, the average Joe needs to ALSO know that he may be f*ckin w/ his dental insurance if he drops the N bomb in public.

White America just can't fathom the fact that there is SOMETHING on the planet that they don't have 100% access too and it f*cks them up - it's just that simple. "Oh look - the Indians have America, let's go 'discover' it and call it ours. OH SNAP - Africa is PACKED w/ diamonds, rubies, gold - let's go get it!!" LOL. I mean SH*T - you f*ckers created the word and it got "taken" from you and you can't adjust. No matter how stupid I think the word is (and I do)... it's one that the hip-hop community has taken and CHANGED THE MEANING TO when they use it. I can understand that --- you should too. Does Eminem use it in lyrics? No. So why the H*LL would you think Joe Q. Public could?

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Ehh its a proven fact that the Africans were enslaving their own people long before we got there.

Hell even look at it today , Somalia, South Africa, hell pretty much anywhere in Africa hasnt changed in the last 500 years.

I dont think its a work white america wants to use. i think you are missing the point. The problem is that "BLACK AMERICA" rants and raves about injustice, racism, etc, yet IN THE SAME BREATH they turn around and say "we can call each other the most racist name in the book an you cant white boy".

DOesnt that PROMOTE division? DOesnt that PROMOTE racism in a way?

Thats MY point.

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Originally Posted by Autumn

i'm not saying who, but a certain member laughed at me when i was telling him about the hurt that this word has caused. i even directed him to:

http://www.abolishthenword.com/

there is so much history behind the word and for someone to use it in manner to mean nothing, it's horrible. that's a very helpful and great site.

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It's a word and anyone that gets offended by such words is f*cking stupid.

Nigger, Wop, Dyke, Fag, Kike, Chink, Guido, Cracker, Spic, ect...

Words. Nothing more than words. The argument that "it carries so much hate" is one I expect to hear from grade schoolers. It only carries the context that you yourself apply to it. Get over yourselves and quit getting your panties in a wad over a word.

sigh, still missing the point

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Originally Posted by Ran

It's a word and anyone that gets offended by such words is f*cking stupid.

Nigger, Wop, Dyke, Fag, Kike, Chink, Guido, Cracker, Spic, ect...

Words. Nothing more than words. The argument that "it carries so much hate" is one I expect to hear from grade schoolers. It only carries the context that you yourself apply to it. Get over yourselves and quit getting your panties in a wad over a word.

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way to oversimplify things...

As a black person, i find it offensive

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Originally Posted by Mr. KiDD

sigh, still missing the point

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If you're looking for an answer to "Does it promote divison?" then the obvious answer is "yes" because of the context that people hold it to.

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Originally Posted by shagwAg3n

way to oversimplify things...

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More like breaking down a stupid subject to it's fundamental level.

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Originally Posted by Ran

It's a word and anyone that gets offended by such words is f*cking stupid.

Nigger, Wop, Dyke, Fag, Kike, Chink, Guido, Cracker, ect...

Words. Nothing more than words. The argument that "it carries so much hate" is one I expect to hear from grade schoolers. It only carries the context that you yourself apply to it. Get over yourselves and quit getting your panties in a wad over a word.

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Ran, well said sir.

I completely agree.

Its a word. Everyone just have a laugh over it. Call what you want, anything and Im going to laugh at it.

For example, I heard a white joke one day and I find it ****ing hilarious.

What do you call a trailer full of white people?

..... A Box of crackas!

That **** cracks me up. Why? Because its true. Every race has that stereo typical group that seems ot make the face of that particular race.


For example... White people have the country, redneck, sister f*cking, dippin, gun tottin, truck drivin hokeys.

Black people have the ghetto, 10 kids, no job, living on welfare, robbing people every chance they get, N1ggas.

Latino/Spanish people have the no green card, low rider driving, chico with the mexi stash illegals.

Asain people have the book smart, glasses, they know kung fu and make straight As...


The list can go on for hours.

In truth, I am not some racist, dippin redneck that dips a can every hour.

In truth, black boi (I dont know you but just for example) doesnt slang coke to little kids, rob the liquor store daily or have a 18 page arrest record.

In truth, Ran (Weve met before) is not a short, nerdy, ninja. He is actually really tall lol

But seriously people, why would you be offended by a word if you are not that person?

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Originally Posted by Sport1.3

As a black person, i find it offensive

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Originally Posted by Blitanicle99

Ran, well said sir.

I completely agree.

Its a word. Everyone just have a laugh over it. Call what you want, anything and Im going to laugh at it.

For example, I heard a white joke one day and I find it ****ing hilarious.

What do you call a trailer full of white people?

..... A Box of crackas!

That **** cracks me up. Why? Because its true. Every race has that stereo typical group that seems ot make the face of that particular race.


For example... White people have the country, redneck, sister f*cking, dippin, gun tottin, truck drivin hokeys.

Black people have the ghetto, 10 kids, no job, living on welfare, robbing people every chance they get, N1ggas.

Latino/Spanish people have the no green card, low rider driving, chico with the mexi stash illegals.

Asain people have the book smart, glasses, they know kung fu and make straight As...


The list can go on for hours.

In truth, I am not some racist, dippin redneck that dips a can every hour.

In truth, black boi (I dont know you but just for example) doesnt slang coke to little kids, rob the liquor store daily or have a 18 page arrest record.

In truth, Ran (Weve met before) is not a short, nerdy, ninja. He is actually really tall lol

But seriously people, why would you be offended by a word if you are not that person?

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hahhahha......thank you sirrrr!!!!:D:D.......u have been repped!!!!:goodjob:.....1

May be true Blitanicle99 ---

But I'm black and my d*ck is f*ckin HUGE!!

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Originally Posted by Mr. KiDD

Ehh its a proven fact that the Africans were enslaving their own people long before we got there.

Hell even look at it today , Somalia, South Africa, hell pretty much anywhere in Africa hasnt changed in the last 500 years.

I dont think its a work white america wants to use. i think you are missing the point. The problem is that "BLACK AMERICA" rants and raves about injustice, racism, etc, yet IN THE SAME BREATH they turn around and say "we can call each other the most racist name in the book an you cant white boy".

DOesnt that PROMOTE division? DOesnt that PROMOTE racism in a way?

Thats MY point.

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No, that's taking care of your own. I can beat up my little brother, but you can't. It's JUST that simple. People are territorial by nature... I can say "women are b*tches, ALL of them" and no1 cares. But if we are at dinner MIke and I look at your wife/mom/daughter and say "f*ck you B*TCH" you'd take me out back for a little 'conversation' that'd you'd lose miserably - LOL. But at least you'd try to defend your own - and it would be an emotional response. I am not saying that it's right - I am just telling you how the people that actually GIVE a sh*t about the N-bomb think about it.

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Originally Posted by BABY J

May be true Blitanicle99 ---

But I'm black and my d*ck is f*ckin HUGE!!

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Weird, Im white and I have the same problem.

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Originally Posted by BABY J

No, that's taking care of your own. I can beat up my little brother, but you can't. It's JUST that simple. People are territorial by nature... I can say "women are b*tches, ALL of them" and no1 cares. But if we are at dinner MIke and I look at your wife/mom/daughter and say "f*ck you B*TCH" you'd take me out back for a little 'conversation' that'd you'd lose miserably - LOL. But at least you'd try to defend your own - and it would be an emotional response. I am not saying that it's right - I am just telling you how the people that actually GIVE a sh*t about the N-bomb think about it.

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Im all for taking care of your own, i understand that. Thats called pride, not racism.

I see where you are coming from. Im not saying im right an you are wrong, i was just curious what other people had to say.

Cracka.

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Originally Posted by Cav-E-R

Cracka.

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cracka ass cracka

Here's what I think on the subject:

I can see the "hypocrisy" theory on this. "We wanna be equal, but we're going to call ourselves a derogatory name that white people used on us but can't use anymore."

Here's my take now. What I think black folks did was took a word that white people used to degrade them and turned it around as a slang term for homeboy. In essence turning the "downgrade" into a regular term that the black person that uses it is proud to be a "ni66a." That's where the pride is found (from Baby J's post). "I'm black and I'm proud. I'm a ni66a and I'm proud. No matter what you've done to us (in the past and to some...now), I'm still proud to be that ni66a."

White kids that use the word use it to be "accepted" by black folks. They think it makes them look cooler and more gangster if they use it. "I listen to 50 Cent and say ni66a to my black friends so I'm straight G." Straight stupid is more like it.

There you have it. Later, QD.

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Originally Posted by Sport1.3

cracka ass cracka

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dems fightin' words... :boxing:

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Originally Posted by Mr. KiDD

Im all for taking care of your own, i understand that. Thats called pride, not racism.

I see where you are coming from. Im not saying im right an you are wrong, i was just curious what other people had to say.

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see thats where mr jesse jackson and al sharp-pound piss me off :rant:......im black and i dont like these guys

THEY TAKE SO MUCH PRIDE IN THEIR SKIN COLOR THAT THEY DONT REALIZE THEY ARE RACISTS!!!!!........1

I won't say that JJ is a racist - but he definitely isn't a "Reverand" - LOL. And neither is Sharpton. LOL

well jesse jackson wants to cut obama's balls off. that's pretty awesome in my books. lol

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Originally Posted by Cav-E-R

dems fightin' words... :boxing:

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Originally Posted by Ed

well jesse jackson wants to cut obama's balls off. that's pretty awesome in my books. lol

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LIES!!! Preachers don't talk like that - bc they are holy and sh*t.:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by BABY J

LIES!!! Preachers don't talk like that - bc they are holy and sh*t.:rolleyes:

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lol... yeah just like priests... they would never rape little boys... cause they are holy and sh*t.

My Take:

Unless you have lived the life of a black person. You will never truly understand why the N-bomb makes some cringe.

Unless you have lived life as a latino. You will never understand what its like to risk your life crossing the border into this country to try and "make it" in order to send some money back to your family. (I work with a lot of latinos and grew up with it all we have also lost a few here at my job who were shot when they were trying to come back.)

Unless you have lived life as a mixed race person. You will never understand how it feels to not be accepted from either side because you are not "full blood"

Unless you have lived your life as an immigrant. You will never understand how it feels to have everyone consider you an "intruder" to the country.

This is all much bigger then just the N-bomb. It extends way further then that. People just need to grow up and show a little respect and realise that just because there "boundries" that should not be crossed. Does not mean that their damn constitutional rights to freedom of speech is being violated. Are there stereotypes. Yes. There is also a thing called culture which is where that all spawns from. People Need realize thats its not the end of the world because they shouldn't flaunt some words. I little respect is not going to hurt anyone.

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Originally Posted by Ran

More like breaking down a stupid subject to it's fundamental level.

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racism is a 'stupid' subject? you really are on an entirely different level.