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    Default our tax dollars hard at work!

    only a $1.4 billion dollar lesson? no worries! just take it out of our social security



    Air Force: Moisture caused $1.4 billion bomber crash

    HICKAM AIR FORCE BASE, Hawaii (AP) -- The Air Force said the first crash of a B-2 stealth bomber was caused by moisture in sensors and estimated the loss of the aircraft at $1.4 billion.

    The Air Force stopped flying B-2 stealth bombers for two months after the crash.

    The crash probably could have been avoided if knowledge of a technique to evaporate the moisture had been disseminated throughout the B-2 program, Maj. Gen. Floyd L. Carpenter, who headed an accident investigation board, said Thursday.

    The Spirit of Kansas abruptly pitched up, rolled and yawed to the left February 23 before plunging to the ground at Andersen Air Force Base on the island of Guam. Both pilots ejected safely just after the left wing made contact with the ground; it was the first crash since the maiden B-2 flights nearly 20 years ago.

    "It was just by the grace of God that they were safe, and the good [ejection] system," Carpenter said.

    Water distorted preflight readings in three of the plane's 24 sensors, making the aircraft's control computer force the B-2 to pitch up on takeoff, resulting in a stall and subsequent crash. Watch $1.4 billion aircraft crash to the ground »

    Carpenter said the pilots and crew followed procedures and "the aircraft actually performed as it was designed. In other words, all the systems were functioning normally."

    However, a technique learned by some two years ago that had gone widely unknown and unadopted probably would have prevented the crash, Carpenter said. The technique essentially heats the sensors and evaporates any moisture before data calibrations.

    "This technique was never formalized in a technical order change or captured in 'lessons learned' reports. Hence, only some pilots and some maintenance technicians knew of the suggestion," according to Carpenter's executive summary of the accident.

    The report said, "The human factor of communicating critical information was a contributing factor to this mishap."

    The general said his responsibility was solely for the investigation of the crash and added that the report was forwarded to commanding officers to determine whether any disciplinary measures are required.

    The sensors measure air pressure to help calculate everything from airspeed to altitude. Because of the bad data, flight computers had inaccurate airspeed and wrongly indicated a downward angle, which contributed to an early rotation and uncontrolled 30-degree pitch up.

    Carpenter said the lack of altitude and airspeed prevented the pilots from correcting the aircraft.

    Guam, 3,700 miles southwest of Hawaii, is known for its humidity. But the Air Force said water in the sensors never caused any problems.

    The Spirit was delivered in February 1995 and expected to be in service for another 50 years.

    The bomber had been returning to Whiteman Air Force Base in Missouri, where the 21-plane fleet is based. The Air Force grounded the B-2s after the crash and resumed flying them in late April.

    Carpenter said procedures and policies are now in place to guard against similar crashes.

    "It's fortunate the crew was able to safely eject. It's unfortunate, however, that we lost one of our nation's penetrating bombers," said Gen. Carrol H. Chandler, commander of Pacific Air Forces.

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    Pocket change

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    i guess the aliens didnt mention moisture control when they helped build it.
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    Isn't it sad that the government has so much money and time into the technology of these planes... Enemies have a hard time locating them let alone trying to take them down... Yet, moisture can take it down...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Motivation
    Isn't it sad that the government has so much money and time into the technology of these planes... Enemies have a hard time locating them let alone trying to take them down... Yet, moisture can take it down...
    question is what kind of moisture was it? i bet it was al qaeda.
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    lol... they were throwing water balloons and shooting their super soakers... their military is too advanced!
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    These things happen, sometimes they have to happen just to prevent it in the future. At least nobody was hurt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ultm8mind
    These things happen, sometimes they have to happen just to prevent it in the future. At least nobody was hurt.
    just american pride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ultm8mind
    These things happen, sometimes they have to happen just to prevent it in the future. At least nobody was hurt.

    At least the Spirit wasn't carrying tactical nuclear weapons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser
    At least the Spirit wasn't carrying tactical nuclear weapons.
    lol that's exactly what i was thinking...

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    wow, its like the aliens from Signs

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    and to think they could've taken all that money and made a gay state for y'all.


    oh wait, you're already in hotlanta

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    You'll never know if they were or not though, now will you, LOL
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