http://www.11alive.com/news/local/st...16582&catid=40
this seems to have been avoidable and senseless...
is it the nice weather?
The uprising of new riders?
Or uprising of bad riders?
Another motorcycle death....
http://www.11alive.com/news/local/st...16582&catid=40
this seems to have been avoidable and senseless...
is it the nice weather?
The uprising of new riders?
Or uprising of bad riders?
the last nite thread is the same as this one.........but your article has more info!!!!!........1
I thought there was a law like this too...what happened to it?Originally Posted by 11alive poster
Shits real out here. You betta keep a strap and learn somethin'.
Yea but everyone in that post is saying that the cops were right and shouldve chased em!!!!.......its whatever......as long as they didnt hurt anybody else then i dont care........
if they had hit an innocent person i would be furious like johnny tran after the feds broke down his door!!!!.....1
if you run from the cops you get what ever happens to you including the beatdown with a billyclub
The driver of that bike got what he deserved, but my heart goes out to the family of the girl who was killed. The driver of that bike, in essence, murdered that poor girl. If you are going to be stupid and do stupid, don't take innocent life down with you.
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You mean the ASP baton.
Shits real out here. You betta keep a strap and learn somethin'.
poor girl (passanger)
Yeah its sad. She was an acquaintance of mine. Always riding on the back of somebodys bike too. All things aside it comes down to good decision making and knowing who your friends are.
Ugh...
That bike must have been slow as balls to get chased down by a cruiser.
i got bored and looked the passenger up on facebook...RIP
The passenger was essentially a hostage once the chase started. She didn't have any control. They should of got his tag #, backed off, and caught up with him later.
Well state patrol is allowed and will chase a bike, but they should have let the bike go, b/c the motorcyclist had a passenger
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Cops shouldn't have chased the bike. IMO cops should never chase bikes in general. If they pull out and put the lights on and they take off, let them go. Same for cars in that case. Why risk anyones life over giving someone a ticket? Just stupid. I think cops look for a chase because most of them are billy bad ass's looking for a thrill or power trip. Notice I said most so if you are a cop no offense.
Last edited by SicStang03; 05-31-2008 at 04:26 PM.
maybe he should have just obeyed the laws and pulled over...and got that silly ole ticket?
I personally think that some of you are idiots for shaming the police officers for doing their jobs. What if they called off the pursiut and then 10 miles down the road the motorcyclist crashes anyway... into your wifes/sisters car injuring or killing her? Surely you'd be singing a different tune.
I feel bad for the girl/passenger on the bike. I support the police and do not blame them at all for this incident.
I was bored... I myspace'd the passengers name. I'm sure this is her. Its a shame. I feel bad for her family.
GSX-R in the background... as descirbed in the news report
HER MYSPACE (I think its her)
Yeah.. thats most def her. Confirmed.
Heres a video of her and the driver doing a wheelie on the hwy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zC_REL9rjXU
Thats sad..
you know it your stupid enough to run then whatever happens to you is diserved
especially one a bike with a passenger
people already say motorcycles are dangerous enough as it is so why not run from the cops on one
just plain stupid
Idiot!!!!!!
I'd never run with a girl on the back.
Idiot.
You shoul'dnt run at all.
I knew that was coming.....
Chasing a motorcycle for that amount of distance is stupid on the cops part. They obviously aren't going to stop. It just makes the roads more dangerous because the bikers are having to push the envelope longer in their attempt to escape. If the cop had backed off the bikers would have slowed down sooner. Because the biker isn't going to stop, the two most likely outcomes are an escape or an accident. The blame is rightfully placed on the idiot motorcyclists for their own deaths, but chasing for 15+ miles endangered EVERYONE even more. The cop could have used better judgment. Many other countries make fun of American cops for having "cowboy" mentalities. There should be stricter chase laws.
it wasnt really a chase, like the gsp was actually right behind the cycle. Because alot of the idiots got away. A few of them actually went to the crash site, and got arrested.
what you said means nothing, if you dont run you dont get chased.
the only chase laws that georgia has is about cars, i dont think there is one for bikes. Because really the ones in danger is the one running...
If someone on a bike going 100+ mph hits your car, you are probably gonna get ****ed too.
True...BUT...getting hit by a speeding bike isnt really a major concern on the road..
Your most likely dead if that happens. Reps for having common sense.
I'm definitely on the fence on this one....
There are a few factors that are a given:
1. The bike driver shouldn't have run.
2. The cops were doing their job....
What I'm having issues with is the fact that :
1. The passenger had no control over the actions of the driver. Sure, she could have asked to be let off but I'm willing to bet that even if she had, he wouldn't have stopped.
2. There are way too many fatal accidents that involve both the subjects being chased and other innocent people and one would think at some point that lawmakers would change the chase policies to benefit public safety....
I feel for the girl and for her family because she didn't deserve to die in the manner she did.
It's easy to pass judgements on the driver and to say that he deserved to die for running but at the end of the day he's someone's son, dad, grandson, etc.....
Last edited by StuntallDay; 05-31-2008 at 08:47 PM.
A chase is a chase. What does the proximity of the patrol car in reference to the bike have to do with anything?
It goes both ways buddy.
That's one of the dumbest things I've ever read. A motorcycle can easily kill a person driving a car. The officer giving pursuit is driving a car, no? Most likely at very high speeds in an effort to keep up. It's a very dangerous situation all together.
the proximity does mean something.. Because most cops dont "chase" bikes, they just follow there path and check for wreckage, because there is no way a gsp is gonna keep up with a gsxr in a pursuit.
if you dont chase they dont run? IF YOUR NOT STUPID AND YOU DONT RUN YOU DONT GET CHASED.
you will get injured or maybe killed if u get hit by a bike...i didnt say you wouldnt.. i was saying....im not really concerned about getting hit by a motorcycle..over a car.
I have no sympathy for people who do dumb stuff.....
PWNT
Imagine a deer hitting your car at 140mph while you yourself are doing 60
I didn't say it was their fault, just that they shouldn't have chased them.. especially that far. Like staggered6 said.. There is only 2 outcomes... They get away or crash
Its a tough topic. I knew Patrick from barrett. We went riding with him a couple times. He was pretty aggressive on his bike, but he was a pretty good rider from what I saw.
The cop should have backed off when he noticed that he had a passenger. The girl had no control over the situation. And I'm sure if Patrick could go back & change it he would have taken the ticket. I mean its not like he knew he was going to wreck, I'm sure he expected to just speed up and get away from the cop but hey I guess people don't think about the consequences of their actions.
Oh and I'm 90 percent sure that there is a law against pursuing a motorcycle - it just doesn't apply to GSP. I guess the rule makers think that GSP undergoes enough training to be able to chase a motorcycle... ? Its stupid if you ask me. Not to mention a motorcycle can weave in and out of traffic much easier than a patrol car and would cause a lot less damage if it were to hit something.
Here's how I see it. If I were a cop & saw someone on a motorcycle doing stupid stuff & speeding I would let them go and think to myself "that person must have a death wish" and not risk anyone elses life chasing them down for a 200 dollar speeding ticket.
I bet GSP will think twice before messing with a motorcycle after this.
I dunno about you, but from what I've seen.. from that wheelie vid especially... the guy was a typical squid. NO gear other than a helmet and wheelie-ing into turns is enough for me to think that.
yep.. you're right about that. A GSP officer told me a few weeks ago himself they are ready and willing to chase
It sucks all the way around... but in the end they both made bad decisions. There's no defense on that guy risking HER life in addition to his like that and at the same time she probably should have been more careful about jumping on the back of just anybody's bike. Serves as an example to everyone... think twice before you make decisions that could very easily impact others. We've all done stupid things similar to this, but sometimes the outcome is much harsher...
Unfortunately, it was his lack of skill that caught up with him while being pursued by GSP. Lets face it, judging from the video it was only a matter of time anyways. Luckly no one else was injured when he was unable to make a turn(go fiqure) and launch his bike into a building and parking lot. Its a shame that he decided that the probably $75 ticket was worth more than his life and his girlfriends. I feel bad for his/her families in this horrible time, but feel no pity for him at all. Its not the cops fault, if you don't obey the laws be prepared to face the consequences(in this case, they would have been far less severe than death). Congrats to him for contributing to the sterotype that motorcyclist recieve
nope they are the exact definition of squid- super quick until i die.
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Here's how I see it. If I were a cop & saw someone on a motorcycle doing stupid stuff & speeding I would let them go and think to myself "that person must have a death wish" and not risk anyone elses life chasing them down for a 200 dollar speeding ticket. [QUOTE]
How is it not risking anyone elses life by letting them go? He could let him go and he will 'do stupid stuff and speed' into your grandma's minivan 2 miles up the road....
This is a typical case of 'damned if you do and damned if you don't'.
By being chased and crashing, everyone is blaming the cop.
But if he were to speed and crash into Miss Churchgoer, everyone would blame the cop for not stopping speeders/ catching speeders/ doing their job etc.
An easier solution: Don't speed and do stupid stuff. And just pull over when you're caught.
But of course that would not be the 'Man' thing to do I guess.....
Now if every cop just backed off on speeders (motorcycles and/or cars), wouldn't you think everyone will be doing it since they can get away with it?
This guy was a perfect example of wrong choices. I believe a lot of bikers are thinking twice now before trying to be 'billy bad-ass' and run away from a cop, and just take the ticket rather than risking their lives.... and others....
I got free clear tails with my ride.....
Best thing to remember......
You can't run from God's Special People. They won't let you.
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damn this the only post in the WL that is still on topic.
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