A lil correction there sirQuote:
Originally Posted by Ruiner
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A lil correction there sirQuote:
Originally Posted by Ruiner
i can see 1 and 3Quote:
Originally Posted by TIGERJC
but 2 would seem to be more of an issue on the democratic side. (the rednecks, by stereotype would be to thick to be scared)
lol noQuote:
Originally Posted by wantboost
They whine and moan when ever there is a new gun control law, lol I thought your god was suppose to protect you guys? Right wing house wives watching fox news thinking the country was going to get attacked when the terror alert went orange and only republicans would fall for that Gov't scare tactic
Agreed 100%Quote:
Originally Posted by MistaCee
^LOL that'll work to. Cuz at one point I was interested in McCain, but it changed and I voted for Barack cuz I like who is his. Just as u noobs voted for Bush cuz u liked what he was "about."
your post is a "little" disjointed.Quote:
Originally Posted by TIGERJC
1 gun control - i have the right to own a gun, i exercise that right. (i assume you are referring to democrats)
2. "my" god is supposed to protect me - where did i mention anything about "my" god? assume much lol?
3. scare tactics - i dont know where you are going to with this statment.
I don't support the patriot act, but with that being said 9-11 was one hell of a scare tactic.
Ruiner was generalizing the people who will vote for obama or hillary, so I decided to have fun with it and do the same thing. I am not specifically talking about you in my generalization.Quote:
Originally Posted by wantboost
I am not talking about not allowing people to own guns, but regulating who is able to own guns and creating laws that will log who owns what kind of guns and the banning of automatic guns in the u.s.. I only mention god, because republicans tend to use religion only at certain times, but then abandon their lord when it comes to everything else
The 9/11 did scare America (It was scary for most), but the government was wrong in using that bullsh!t color coded terror alert to scare ppl months after the 9/11 attacks. which the u.s. used that fear to get the patriot act bill passed and then to rally the country to go to war with Iraq
:goodjob: im with yaQuote:
Originally Posted by TIGERJC
+reps
edit:You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to TIGERJC again.
gun control laws only effect people that use their guns lawfully. There was a study done that said 1 murder was stopped for every 70k legal guns taken away and 5 illegal guns taken away. On that note, I think the FBI should have a ballistics database with the ballistic signature of all new guns sold in the US. This type of law will affect legally owned guns in no way at all, and will allow police a point of reference in an investigation for unlawfully used weapons.
I dont give a **** about any religion. More people have died for their religion than all other reasons since the beginning of time.
McCain has flopped MANY times, but so ahve Obama and Hitlery. All 3 are playing politics so its pointless to bother mentioning. Now look at their voting habits. McCain is democrat light while Obama is the poster child for the FAR left. Keeping close ties with terrorists and racists doent help him either. Hitlelry is just using the same tired logic she has used since the beginning. Win at all costs. People see that in her and dont want to deal with her in office.
Just like in 04, if the dem's even had one canidate that wasnt unelectable they would run away with this election. People dont want another republican in office, but the lack of a better option has kept McCain in this. It ill be another VERY close election in Nov, and I hope that McCain wins. I cant afford the taxes Obama will push though for all of his socialist programs.
When will you people learn that while it was Puritan fundamentalists that immigrated here, that the actual union of the United States was not founded on Christian ideals or beliefs.
This country was founded by, and to support and maintain, elitist Free Masonic ideals and principles.
Which simply amounts to the Elite, watching over and governing the rest of the population in order to protect the working class, as to ensure the continuing economic dominion of the elitist class.
Think about it, if America was founded on Christian principles there would be no supposed separation of church and state.
Now I am not advocating Elitist dominion, it's a lot better then rule by overzealous Christians. Just imagine Creflow Dollar in the white house, and you will begin to understand what I mean.
I think 9/11 was a scam, basicly a simple plot for the government to have more control over people through fear. Bush knowingly violated our civil rights by passing the bill to catch "terrorist". The only reason why they are considered what they are is because it is believed that we Americans are too cocky and that we think we got it made to the point that whatever we want we can have. TV has ways of getting to people. We are always in everyone else's business. We have to have a say so in everything. It all boils down to power. They don't like that we are the world bullies and in any way they can at least slow us down, they are gonna do it. I can understand why some of them are strapping a bomb to themselves hoping they can "take the bully out of power" so to say. I think if we mind our own business and defend ours when it's time, we will have less issues with people across the world and be look at as finally a " good hearted country".Quote:
Originally Posted by TIGERJC
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Originally Posted by Ruiner
maybe 7. none of the above. ?
good god man... did you get jumped by a black man or raped by a woman as a child? you make it sound like if you don't vote conservative you must be illiterate, on welfare, or some how completely indigent. that is unsulting. it might be a bit hard to swallow, but maybe the last thing this country needs is a rich, white conservative. Look where it got us thus far.
^^He's wealthy so thereby democratic voting doesn't apply to him. He could care less if you don't have any money. As long as he keeps his own money, then he will always vote republican. I look at it from a different point of view..... Not everybody can afford the good life and if it wasn't for some of the democratic views the rich would totally **** on the poor and shoveled into a corner and have laws banning them from their society. His opinion is a quite a sad one, but it's almost true and to the point.
who are you talking about?Quote:
Originally Posted by blackshine007
If anyone is going to make the rich richer and the poor poorer its going to be a democrat. Socialized healthcare and similar socialist programs will only raise taxes on those that pay income taxes. A very good number of America's ultra wealthy dont pay much if any american income taxes. Most pay capital gains taxes, but thats about it. Some dont even pay that much. Raising capital gains taxes will go to hurt the US as a whole because the ones that make any real money with capital gains can just as easily set up residence and bank accounts in the Bahamas. With all of the banking transactions go through the bahamas it will be 100% free of American taxation. So as the ultra weathy take their money elsewhere where do you think the money to pay for these programs will come from? Its very simple the govt will steasily raise tax rates and lower the tax free threshold until they have enough. This will further drive the lower and middle class into poverty and have little to no effect on the wealthy.
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Originally Posted by Ruiner
PREACH.
how in god's name can you think what they want is good for the country right now. We don't have the money for all of those social reform programs.
and Obama doesn't even talk about what he is going to do in office, he just gives good speaches.
McCain was not the best republican candidate, but he was the one i suppose the super delegates thought could sell the ticket so whatever. I still pick him over any body else.
Super Liberals who blame everything on bush and are full of ignorance piss me off, he wasn't the best president, but he sure could have done a hell of a lot worse.
where you trying to make a point by spelling like that? :lmfao:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sledlude
what's wrong with that?Quote:
Originally Posted by TIGERJC
I would rather rely on myself for safety then bank on a cop coming from twenty minutes away when a robber is in my house.
ill vote McCain anyday before i vote for Obama or Hilliary
While I think you're on the right track, I would probably say Enlightenment Period and Deist principles are less conspiracy theory sounding...Quote:
Originally Posted by TheProfiteer
We need a libertarian president. We also need a 'Fair Tax' type national sales tax system as opposed to all the BS income and SS taxes.
when did republicans get super delegates??? oh yea they don't. so why are you voting for McCain again, because right now he is trying to keep his core party members on his side by saying he'll do this and that. When everybody knows his stance on most policies outside of the war are somewhat if not pretty liberal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucky Dawg
welcome to politics asshat, its called lying.Quote:
Originally Posted by BB6dohcvtec
Is it right? no... Is it moral? no... Does it work? yes...
politicians have been lying out there ass ever since organized government has been around so don't give me that crap, its a necessary evil. And not to mention what is the difference between him rubbing elbows with some guys to get votes and then Obama not even saying a damn thing about what he is going to do.
Change...
Change...
Change...
define what he means by change, because i've only heard him say it a 100 times in every speech without defining what exactly he is going to do in office. Other great leaders skilled in oratory did the same thing, hitler, stalin... saw how those ones came out.
A leader who talks about change without giving you the specifics and can come out of the woodworks and rally millions is one of the most dangerous things out there, call me radical when i say that, but honestly look at history.
right on buddy.Quote:
Originally Posted by KPowerEP3
too bad someone like Ron Paul couldn't get elected, what he has to say and all of his viewpoints are fascinating, i hadn't even given him a real listen until a week or two ago.
I think McCain is the lesser evil though who can actually have a shot at the presidency. I'm moving to Canada if Obama or Hillary win.
wow asshat how original. please don't get angry when you didn't know your parties own primary policies. Why would he have to describe change being liberal equals change look at history some for the good and some for the bad, the change he is talking about is taking a different approach at handling things ( you know trying not to keep hush hush and at least letting us in a little bit). It really doesn't matter to me if McCain gets elected because than you will realize why he almost switched parties because he is just as liberal as the other two candidates you despise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucky Dawg
honestly...??? hearing stuff like that makes me sick to my stomach, at my gym at school some black guy tried to tell some women that the plane that crashed into the Twin Towers was empty.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackshine007
People have lost so much respect for this country, and i don't mean internationally... i mean right here at home.
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Originally Posted by Lucky Dawg
try to find a name of any person that was killed at the pennsylvania crash, or the pentagon..
when did i say i was getting down on my hands and knees for McCain... all 3 of them suck, but hes the best one in the bunch.Quote:
Originally Posted by BB6dohcvtec
and i like how you skipped around the fact that you still did not mention at all what he plans on doing in office, he has no solid game plan at all and has no idea what the hell he is doing.
He has inspiring, well constructing speaches... thats about it. FANTASTIC, that will get us far.
http://www.oilempire.us/bogus.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by JITB
i'm familiar, and its all bull
DittoQuote:
Originally Posted by MistaCee
I dont think Mccain really has a chance
Kind of like how you skipped my question on why you are voting for McCain so we're even. To answer your question tho is he doesn't need to right now he is still trying to get the party nomination which mathematically will be his but its still not over. Once he gets to the general election than he will roll out his gameplan for the country similar to what McCain did after he got his party nomination. Satisfied now I answered your question, now answer mine.
Neither did george BushQuote:
Originally Posted by Lucky Dawg
irrelevant?Quote:
Originally Posted by jaystar
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Originally Posted by Lucky Dawg
lol if u say so man.. you can believe that 747's can disappear into thin air when they crash into the ground from 150ft in the air, if you want to. But on this planet it dont happen
i will give you this, the way some of it is put is convincing, and i can see some of it to a DEGREE having some kind of tampering with by the government. To think the government does not hide some things is ignorant, but whether it is for our own good or theirs is something different.Quote:
Originally Posted by JITB
i'm doin arguing though, we can't convince each other.
me and my friend were talking about this the other day though... I feel like the country is way more polarized now then it has been in a very long time. Me and him were talking about the possiblity of a revolution in the next 20 years, i honestly think it has a real chance. I don't advocate it one way or the other, but i can see the country taking that course of action at the pace it is going now.
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Originally Posted by Lucky Dawg
so the government has some way of changing the law of physics.....for our protection.
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Originally Posted by JITB
you are missing the point of what i was saying, i was trying to douse the flames on our argument because its 1:22 AM and i'm not trying to analyze internet conspiracy theories from a website which are at half best credible.
i was giving you some credit, but you could be difficult about it if thats what you want.
either or i'm going to bed, night
McCain is a neoconservative which is why he turns a lot of people, even republicans, off.
Neoconservatism emphasizes foreign policy as the paramount responsibility of government, maintaining that America's role as the world's sole superpower is indispensable to establishing and maintaining global order.
watch the ron paul video on that, its crazy and makes a lot of sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Accelocity86nz
Maintaining our current foreign policy stances is most likley more expensive than the taxes you guys complain about.