$10 A Gallon , What IF? (Yes another Gas thread)

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05-23-2008, 03:19 AM
gforce23

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Originally Posted by JennB

Gas is 1.5 Euro's per litre right now.

What's the cost of diesel? Most people in Europe don't care about gas/petrol prices anyway.
05-23-2008, 03:47 AM
greasemunkey

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Originally Posted by 3.5altman

time to move closer to work, and buy a single cam civic..ha ha

check and check:yes: btw 32+ mpg rocks!
05-23-2008, 04:21 AM
IndianStig

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Originally Posted by Miranda

Well we might not be able to dump our cars every two years like a bunch of us do...

But I was listening to Clark Howard a few days ago and he was talking about the Prius and said that it will pay for itself after 8 years or so, depending on your driving...

Annndd... companies are starting to come out with pure electric cars that are at or below the $50K price point... when they come down to the 30s, they'll be paying for thenselves in no time.

doubt it.

2008 Toyota Camry - $18k
2008 Toyota Camry Hybrid - $25k

Say you save $1000 a year in gas, the hybrid still takes 7 years to show any real savings.
05-23-2008, 04:40 AM
TheGodfather

Lol at the confused liberals who thing oil is going to run out soon.
Also have fun spending outrageous prices because a car says hybrid. It will take about 21 years for you to see your money back, and the hybrid engines don't last that long. So no go on that one. If you are going to be a true liberal hippie, grab a bicycle. That is really the only solution.

If and when this gas crisis rises even more, I will grab arms in preperation for a Civil War II. Hmmm, but which side to fight for?

Regardless, I'd love to defend my house and shoot everyone moving.

This would work excellent, as it would decrease the consumption of the worlds resources, and after the war everyone would be better off.

I'd kill lots of the stupid soccer mom wives who spend all their husbands money to run from mall to mall in an Escalade. Then I'd kill their husbands for being so stupid.

I win.
05-23-2008, 05:34 AM
Big J

<------- makes sure guns are clean, orders more ammo
05-23-2008, 07:21 AM
tony

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Originally Posted by slovic-fcc

it actually requires 1.2 gallons of fossil fuels (diesel, gas and propane) to produce one single gallon of ethanol. btw ethanol is basically moonshine.
:2cents: :cheers:

Actually those figures are old, its 1 gallon of fossil fuel produces about 1.3 gallons of ethanol and in Brazil the ratio is 1 gallon produces 8 due to the energy content of Sugar Cane.. hmm, brazil can get 8 gallons of ethanol from 1 gallon spent but the great superpower can only get 1.3, doesn't quite sound right.

Conservatives would like you to believe ethanol is a waste of time but it really is a viable energy source.
05-23-2008, 08:49 AM
Elbow

Gas won't go to $10/gallon, and we are not about to run out of oil.

And yeah ban SUV's unless you NEED one, dumb **** soccer moms.
05-23-2008, 08:57 AM
1439/2000

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Originally Posted by eViLMunkey

I could see it putting a huge impact on atlanta due to it being a spread out city vs say new york or boston where it's easier to walk to where you need to go. the closest store to my house is like 2 miles which isn't bad a full tank right now lasts me 2.5 weeks

The thing is, YOU can walk to work but your co workers might not be able to. What about the customers that buy your ****? They wont go and then you're out of a job. Its not how will we get there its how will our economy work. I'm ****ing sick of the middle eastern countries doing this ****. We need a combination of drilling in this country and cutting back but too many ***** politicians wont do anything about it.
05-23-2008, 09:02 AM
Ran

Price was at $4.15 for premium today at QT. Hooray!

*Bought 87 Octane*

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Originally Posted by simontibbett

And yeah ban SUV's unless you NEED one, dumb **** soccer moms.

x2 SUV's FTMFL
05-23-2008, 09:27 AM
carbon_crash

I agree with Tony, need to start drilling in Alaska. Or drill off the coast of Florida
05-23-2008, 09:28 AM
Miranda

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Originally Posted by TheGodfather

Lol at the confused liberals who thing oil is going to run out soon.

This isn't a liberal thing... it's a science thing. Even scientists from the major oil companies have agreed that the oil is running out... the big debate is over how quickly. You realize how this works, right? Well hang on... I'll get a picture for you:

http://www.drmillslmu.com/peakoi4.gif

Don't forget... the world population has doubled THREE times in the last 70 years or so... along with that increase, demand for oil has shot up. EVEN IF THERE WAS INFINITE OIL, the population will soon reach a level where demand exceeds output capacity. I argue that we're already at THAT point... hence food riots in Haiti and starving/dehydrated people in drought ridden "Southern" countries.

And what is with you people and trying to call this a "liberal" or a "conservative" thing, like those terms are supposed to be insults. Both liberal and conservative records have been abysmal, especially when it comes to energy independence.

Don't stay in denial, or we WILL be in a nasty situation akin to the Civil War. To avoid those kinds of controversies, we need to get focused on new forms of oil...
05-23-2008, 10:06 AM
tony

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Originally Posted by Miranda

And what is with you people and trying to call this a "liberal" or a "conservative" thing, like those terms are supposed to be insults. Both liberal and conservative records have been abysmal, especially when it comes to energy independence.

Reason being is one tends not to see the logic in the other sides argument and would rather believe they are right rather than admit they are wrong.
05-23-2008, 10:10 AM
Miranda

It's sad and pathetic... and it honestly sounds more like a response you'd expect from someone who has absolutely no understanding of the terms he/she is trying to use.
05-23-2008, 10:15 AM
R3RUN

The truckers would strike long before gas hit $10 a gallon.
05-23-2008, 06:09 PM
ironchef

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Originally Posted by Miranda

This isn't a liberal thing... it's a science thing. Even scientists from the major oil companies have agreed that the oil is running out... the big debate is over how quickly. You realize how this works, right? Well hang on... I'll get a picture for you:

http://www.drmillslmu.com/peakoi4.gif

Don't forget... the world population has doubled THREE times in the last 70 years or so... along with that increase, demand for oil has shot up. EVEN IF THERE WAS INFINITE OIL, the population will soon reach a level where demand exceeds output capacity. I argue that we're already at THAT point... hence food riots in Haiti and starving/dehydrated people in drought ridden "Southern" countries.

And what is with you people and trying to call this a "liberal" or a "conservative" thing, like those terms are supposed to be insults. Both liberal and conservative records have been abysmal, especially when it comes to energy independence.

Don't stay in denial, or we WILL be in a nasty situation akin to the Civil War. To avoid those kinds of controversies, we need to get focused on new forms of oil...

I dont see how we're getting close to running out, when the majority of the oil finds in the world havent even been tapped. Have you ever heard of the Abiotic Oil Theory?

Also the whole oil comes from fossils thing hasn't been proven.

As far as the output capacity issue, who knows what our actual limits are?

More than likely the issues in Haiti are a result of a poor governmental system.

So far this discussion has been adult like, hopefully it stays that way, even though this is the whoreslounge.

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