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    Default which upcoming president

    do you all think is best for the war? and also do you think we should deploy more? or just pull out slowly but still keep some troops there for , rebuilding and keepin peace amonst the iraqi's

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    this should be in wallstreet, but ill vote anyway


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    so why do you say mccain?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LS2_KID
    this should be in wallstreet, but ill vote anyway


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    Quote Originally Posted by dohc4.6sc
    so why do you say mccain?
    hillary and obama are the anti-christ

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    are you all only saying mccain beacsue he is the only white male?

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    mccain because a: ) republican(wish Paul was on the ticket instead) and b: )sudden withdraw of troops would leave that area up for grabs and then that would be worst than hussain still being in power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redrumracer
    mccain because a: ) republican(wish Paul was on the ticket instead) and b: )sudden withdraw of troops would leave that area up for grabs and then that would be worst than hussain still being in power.
    why not obama then? he isnt talking about SUDDEN withdrawel. just slowly pulling them out. i am voting mccain also i am just wondering others inputs on why they are going with what they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dohc4.6sc
    why not obama then? he isnt talking about SUDDEN withdrawel. just slowly pulling them out. i am voting mccain also i am just wondering others inputs on why they are going with what they are.
    because well hes not a republican. i dont really like any of the choices.

    edit: i dont give a damn about color, but i sure as hell dont want a damn female in office, especially that b!tch. also if i remember reading right obama is for tighting gun restrictions and im all about owning guns and all that good stuff.

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    So, redrumracer.... you vote for parties and not people?

    and too all the people say a sudden ejection from iraq will be bad.... that is true.... and that is why none of the democratic canidates want to do that. If you did some research, you will find that each one of them wants a slow and gradual pull-out spreading over one and half years, with still some remaining troops left behind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PsychoSquirl
    So, redrumracer.... you vote for parties and not people?

    and too all the people say a sudden ejection from iraq will be bad.... that is true.... and that is why none of the democratic canidates want to do that. If you did some research, you will find that each one of them wants a slow and gradual pull-out spreading over one and half years, with still some remaining troops left behind.
    when it comes to all crappy choices yes, and over 1.5 years is still too fast

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    To be honest, the democratic party is a bunch of idiots. All that negative campaining is gonna do nothing but make both of the candidates hate each other to the point that niether parties will vote for each other. All McCain has to do is sit back, make positive comments on the 2 idiots to make himself look even better and he's practically in. Yet, another Bush in the office. But what can we do? Clinton won't give up, despite being behind on delegate counts and Obama on occasion makes poor choice of words. But if the dummy-crats keep it up, not enough people will be voting for them. That's my 2 cents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dohc4.6sc
    why not obama then? he isnt talking about SUDDEN withdrawel. just slowly pulling them out. i am voting mccain also i am just wondering others inputs on why they are going with what they are.
    So your voting for Obama cause he's black ?????
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    Quote Originally Posted by GuessWho
    So your voting for Obama cause he's black ?????
    if you would read, you would know i am voting mccain, thats not a vote based upon race or sex, i am in the army and thats the vote that i think that will be best for our troops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackshine007
    To be honest, the democratic party is a bunch of idiots. All that negative campaining is gonna do nothing but make both of the candidates hate each other to the point that niether parties will vote for each other. All McCain has to do is sit back, make positive comments on the 2 idiots to make himself look even better and he's practically in. Yet, another Bush in the office. But what can we do? Clinton won't give up, despite being behind on delegate counts and Obama on occasion makes poor choice of words. But if the dummy-crats keep it up, not enough people will be voting for them. That's my 2 cents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dohc4.6sc
    if you would read, you would know i am voting mccain, thats not a vote based upon race or sex, i am in the army and thats the vote that i think that will be best for our troops.
    Well i figured since you thought redrummer or w/e his name is is voting for mccain cause he's white...
    I was assume...
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    So, as with the last election I definitely feel this is going to be another choice of the lesser of two evils. I do believe that a Democrat mentality towards the war is needed. However, I lean republican on a lot of other issues and therefore will likely be pissed off at the president after the war situation is addressed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LS2_KID
    hillary and obama are the anti-christ

    LINK:
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    even more reason for some one to vote for them.

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    McCain definately! I believe that he is going to win this election. Obama has WAY too many links to terrorists, racists, etc... And Hillary....she is just not a likeable person and lies A LOT!

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    Both Clintons are crooks anyways. I agree with whats already been said, any sudden removal of troops will destroy that area and leave it up for grabs by to many radical groups giving them even more power and more courage to attack, imo. And since this asked what is the best president to deal with the war, I'll stop there. So McCain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redrumracer
    also if i remember reading right obama is for tighting gun restrictions and im all about owning guns and all that good stuff.
    , if every citizen LEGALLY carried a gun at all times there would be very little crime. The democrats think that putting more restrictions on gun laws will reduce crime they are wrong. 99% of gun crimes are done with illegal guns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bajjani
    Both Clintons are crooks anyways. I agree with whats already been said, any sudden removal of troops will destroy that area and leave it up for grabs by to many radical groups giving them even more power and more courage to attack, imo. And since this asked what is the best president to deal with the war, I'll stop there. So McCain.

    more important than a sudden withdrawal destroying that area is that it would leave US vulnerable to another attack.

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    My .02 is this. Both Obama and Hillary are the anti-christ as was already said. Personally I don't like any of their policies. Then you add in all the crazy ass people that Obama is associated with.....you get the idea.

    I personally wish Romney was still in. It's a shame that Romney had to drop out after McCain took that cheap shot at him but eh thats politics.

    As far as the war goes being out before the job is done period is a mistake in my book. Just because the war is unpopular, doesn't mean that the Commander in Cheif should pull out. Iraq is now our National Security problem and we need to see this mess that we made through to the end.
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    People always complain about the war, which Bush really did get ****ed over, first he didn't do enough then he did to much, the people are never happy. I'm, again, no arguing for one way or another but everyone who is complaining about the war and thinks that immediate withdraw of troops is a good idea because (our boys don't need to be over there anymore dying) needs to try to grasp the idea that if we leave, we'll be back over there fighting more largely organized groups of radicals, and the one thing they have in common, is they all hate us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JConner
    McCain definately! I believe that he is going to win this election. Obama has WAY too many links to terrorists, racists, etc... And Hillary....she is just not a likeable person and lies A LOT!
    I don't feel that Obama is linked to any terrorist, but something the media is feeding heavily upon. I think that he knows quite a few racist people. But let me ask you this.... how many people do you know of that you may speak to on occasion that don't have even a little bit of racism in them? I know a lot. But does that make me racist? No. I don't feel the same way about certain views as they do. But I can relate to them on certain things not race related. For example, Obama says that he is pretty mean on the poker table. Who knows, maybe Jeramaih Right was one of the people who was on the table with him. The man also gets into some sporting events too and played basketball in high school. That man is human just like anyone else. We sometimes meet people who are really good people but we may not agree with them on quite a few subjects. But that don't mean you should end a relationship because of that.

    Hilary..... Hilary. I would love to tell you something nice about her. I would love to tell you that might be a hellavuh candidate for president. I think as far as policies go, she's better than McCain. She definately has a voice that is undeniable. She also knows how to lie. Lie very well at that. My main concern with her is how can I expect her to run a country when she can't even stay in control of her own bedroom? There's been multiple aligations of Bill messing around and what does she do? She smiles it off. She was an Attorney for many of years and she couldn't leave him barefoot and broke? She stuck it out like a dummy. I think their marriage is a sham. She was in it for one thing and the way she's heading, she won't make it.

    McCain, to sum him up, a new and improved Bush. That is all. I honestly wish Ron Paul would've made it through, but he didn't. I would've said screw the dummy-crats and pitched my vote for him. Then huckabee seemed promising. Didn't make it very far. I don't think McCain is gonna do anything that benefits the economy. I don't think that's his intent. I wonder what's our line up of independents looking like so far?

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    ^Well said (well I don't agree with the Huckabee part, but yeah other than that )

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    Iraq is now our National Security problem and we need to see this mess that we made through to the end.
    It's either pull out or nuke the place. There is no satisfactory end at this point.

    PS, pull out over time that is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackshine007
    I don't feel that Obama is linked to any terrorist, but something the media is feeding heavily upon. I think that he knows quite a few racist people. But let me ask you this.... how many people do you know of that you may speak to on occasion that don't have even a little bit of racism in them? I know a lot. But does that make me racist? No. I don't feel the same way about certain views as they do. But I can relate to them on certain things not race related. For example, Obama says that he is pretty mean on the poker table. Who knows, maybe Jeramaih Right was one of the people who was on the table with him. The man also gets into some sporting events too and played basketball in high school. That man is human just like anyone else. We sometimes meet people who are really good people but we may not agree with them on quite a few subjects. But that don't mean you should end a relationship because of that.

    Hilary..... Hilary. I would love to tell you something nice about her. I would love to tell you that might be a hellavuh candidate for president. I think as far as policies go, she's better than McCain. She definately has a voice that is undeniable. She also knows how to lie. Lie very well at that. My main concern with her is how can I expect her to run a country when she can't even stay in control of her own bedroom? There's been multiple aligations of Bill messing around and what does she do? She smiles it off. She was an Attorney for many of years and she couldn't leave him barefoot and broke? She stuck it out like a dummy. I think their marriage is a sham. She was in it for one thing and the way she's heading, she won't make it.

    McCain, to sum him up, a new and improved Bush. That is all. I honestly wish Ron Paul would've made it through, but he didn't. I would've said screw the dummy-crats and pitched my vote for him. Then huckabee seemed promising. Didn't make it very far. I don't think McCain is gonna do anything that benefits the economy. I don't think that's his intent. I wonder what's our line up of independents looking like so far?
    Ok I can agree with you on the racist thing. But the terrorism thing.... Sorry man wouldn't vote for him if you put a gun to my head. Between the thing that came out this week, his revrand and that guy that's connected to his campaign that tried to blow up the pentagon in the 60's makes me wonder.
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    You know whats really funny? People give Obama a hard time for that flag pin thing, yet McCain does not wear a flag pin either and the media seems to ignore that.

    Whats also very funny is that John McCain has an endorsment from a weirdo religious guy who talks about God destroying America also, yet the media seems to ignore a lot of that.

    And Obama associating with terrorists? lol, his father is ****ing Kenyan, whens the last time you heard about a Kenyan Muslim trying to blow up America? Kenyans may invade our marathon races, but not our fears.



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    Quote Originally Posted by blackshine007
    I don't feel that Obama is linked to any terrorist, but something the media is feeding heavily upon. I think that he knows quite a few racist people. But let me ask you this.... how many people do you know of that you may speak to on occasion that don't have even a little bit of racism in them? I know a lot. But does that make me racist? No. I don't feel the same way about certain views as they do. But I can relate to them on certain things not race related. For example, Obama says that he is pretty mean on the poker table. Who knows, maybe Jeramaih Right was one of the people who was on the table with him. The man also gets into some sporting events too and played basketball in high school. That man is human just like anyone else. We sometimes meet people who are really good people but we may not agree with them on quite a few subjects. But that don't mean you should end a relationship because of that.

    Hilary..... Hilary. I would love to tell you something nice about her. I would love to tell you that might be a hellavuh candidate for president. I think as far as policies go, she's better than McCain. She definately has a voice that is undeniable. She also knows how to lie. Lie very well at that. My main concern with her is how can I expect her to run a country when she can't even stay in control of her own bedroom? There's been multiple aligations of Bill messing around and what does she do? She smiles it off. She was an Attorney for many of years and she couldn't leave him barefoot and broke? She stuck it out like a dummy. I think their marriage is a sham. She was in it for one thing and the way she's heading, she won't make it.

    McCain, to sum him up, a new and improved Bush. That is all. I honestly wish Ron Paul would've made it through, but he didn't. I would've said screw the dummy-crats and pitched my vote for him. Then huckabee seemed promising. Didn't make it very far. I don't think McCain is gonna do anything that benefits the economy. I don't think that's his intent. I wonder what's our line up of independents looking like so far?
    if obama is linked to a terrorist then bush is one in my opinion. where do most of them come? from Saudi Arabia! Who's ass is he kissin? Theirs! Hillary is a damn liar and if she cant keep her own damn story straight much less her marriage **** that the most mud slinging has been from her. She needs to just call it quits she had a good run. its over. Honestly I like Obama's stance on things and his policies. And McCain in my opinion was probably one of the very few republicans ( other than Ron Paul) that I have respect for. Face it no matter what we do Iraq is goin to go to hell in a hand basket so we should pull out. we're on their turf and they arent even really tryin to get a government together the right way. you cant help someone who isnt making the effort to help themselves no matter how you slice it. maybe threatening with withdrawl may make them speed **** up.

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    All this is cut and paste, not my opinion. But William Ayers is the terroist "the media" refers to. Not some Camel Jockey from the middle east.



    Barack Obama has been running his campaign in the style of a revolutionary. Just how radical and liberal Obama is has been well hidden by the campaign. If you haven’t heard about his friendship with the leaders of the radical group, the Weather Underground, you can thank the media. Just how radically left this man is can be seen in what company he keeps. Obama is friends with William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, the Weather Underground terrorists of the 1960’s.


    ''I don't regret setting bombs,'' Bill Ayers said. ''I feel we didn't do enough.'' Mr. Ayers, who spent the 1970's as a fugitive in the Weather Underground, was sitting in the kitchen of his big turn-of-the-19th-century stone house in the Hyde Park district of Chicago. The long curly locks in his Wanted poster are shorn, though he wears earrings. He still has tattooed on his neck the rainbow-and-lightning Weathermen logo that appeared on letters taking responsibility for bombings. And he still has the ebullient, ingratiating manner, the apparently intense interest in other people, that made him a charismatic figure in the radical student movement.

    Now he has written a book, ''Fugitive Days'' (Beacon Press, September). Mr. Ayers, who is 56, calls it a memoir, somewhat coyly perhaps, since he also says some of it is fiction. He writes that he participated in the bombings of New York City Police Headquarters in 1970, of the Capitol building in 1971, the Pentagon in 1972. But Mr. Ayers also seems to want to have it both ways, taking responsibility for daring acts in his youth, then deflecting it.

    ''Is this, then, the truth?,'' he writes. ''Not exactly. Although it feels entirely honest to me.''

    But why would someone want to read a memoir parts of which are admittedly not true? Mr. Ayers was asked.

    ''Obviously, the point is it's a reflection on memory,'' he answered. ''It's true as I remember it.''

    Mr. Ayers is probably safe from prosecution anyway. A spokeswoman for the Justice Department said there was a five-year statute of limitations on Federal crimes except in cases of murder or when a person has been indicted.

    Mr. Ayers, who in 1970 was said to have summed up the Weatherman philosophy as: ''Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, kill your parents, that's where it's really at,'' is today distinguished professor of education at the University of Illinois at Chicago. And he says he doesn't actually remember suggesting that rich people be killed or that people kill their parents, but ''it's been quoted so many times I'm beginning to think I did,'' he said. ''It was a joke about the distribution of wealth.''

    He went underground in 1970, after his girlfriend, Diana Oughton, and two other people were killed when bombs they were making exploded in a Greenwich Village town house. With him in the Weather Underground was Bernardine Dohrn, who was put on the F.B.I.'s 10 Most Wanted List. J. Edgar Hoover called her ''the most dangerous woman in America'' and ''la Pasionara of the Lunatic Left.'' Mr. Ayers and Ms. Dohrn later married.

    In his book Mr. Ayers describes the Weathermen descending into a ''whirlpool of violence.''

    ''Everything was absolutely ideal on the day I bombed the Pentagon,'' he writes. But then comes a disclaimer: ''Even though I didn't actually bomb the Pentagon -- we bombed it, in the sense that Weathermen organized it and claimed it.'' He goes on to provide details about the manufacture of the bomb and how a woman he calls Anna placed the bomb in a restroom. No one was killed or injured, though damage was extensive.

    Between 1970 and 1974 the Weathermen took responsibility for 12 bombings, Mr. Ayers writes, and also helped spring Timothy Leary (sentenced on marijuana charges) from jail.

    Today, Mr. Ayers and Ms. Dohrn, 59, who is director of the Legal Clinic's Children and Family Justice Center of Northwestern University, seem like typical baby boomers, caring for aging parents, suffering the empty-nest syndrome. Their son, Malik, 21, is at the University of California, San Diego; Zayd, 24, teaches at Boston University. They have also brought up Chesa Boudin, 21, the son of David Gilbert and Kathy Boudin, who are serving prison terms for a 1981 robbery of a Brinks truck in Rockland County, N.Y., that left four people dead. Last month, Ms. Boudin's application for parole was rejected.

    So, would Mr. Ayers do it all again, he is asked? ''I don't want to discount the possibility,'' he said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Echonova
    All this is cut and paste, not my opinion. But William Ayers is the terroist "the media" refers to. Not some Camel Jockey from the middle east.



    Barack Obama has been running his campaign in the style of a revolutionary. Just how radical and liberal Obama is has been well hidden by the campaign. If you haven’t heard about his friendship with the leaders of the radical group, the Weather Underground, you can thank the media. Just how radically left this man is can be seen in what company he keeps. Obama is friends with William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, the Weather Underground terrorists of the 1960’s.


    ''I don't regret setting bombs,'' Bill Ayers said. ''I feel we didn't do enough.'' Mr. Ayers, who spent the 1970's as a fugitive in the Weather Underground, was sitting in the kitchen of his big turn-of-the-19th-century stone house in the Hyde Park district of Chicago. The long curly locks in his Wanted poster are shorn, though he wears earrings. He still has tattooed on his neck the rainbow-and-lightning Weathermen logo that appeared on letters taking responsibility for bombings. And he still has the ebullient, ingratiating manner, the apparently intense interest in other people, that made him a charismatic figure in the radical student movement.

    Now he has written a book, ''Fugitive Days'' (Beacon Press, September). Mr. Ayers, who is 56, calls it a memoir, somewhat coyly perhaps, since he also says some of it is fiction. He writes that he participated in the bombings of New York City Police Headquarters in 1970, of the Capitol building in 1971, the Pentagon in 1972. But Mr. Ayers also seems to want to have it both ways, taking responsibility for daring acts in his youth, then deflecting it.

    ''Is this, then, the truth?,'' he writes. ''Not exactly. Although it feels entirely honest to me.''

    But why would someone want to read a memoir parts of which are admittedly not true? Mr. Ayers was asked.

    ''Obviously, the point is it's a reflection on memory,'' he answered. ''It's true as I remember it.''

    Mr. Ayers is probably safe from prosecution anyway. A spokeswoman for the Justice Department said there was a five-year statute of limitations on Federal crimes except in cases of murder or when a person has been indicted.

    Mr. Ayers, who in 1970 was said to have summed up the Weatherman philosophy as: ''Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, kill your parents, that's where it's really at,'' is today distinguished professor of education at the University of Illinois at Chicago. And he says he doesn't actually remember suggesting that rich people be killed or that people kill their parents, but ''it's been quoted so many times I'm beginning to think I did,'' he said. ''It was a joke about the distribution of wealth.''

    He went underground in 1970, after his girlfriend, Diana Oughton, and two other people were killed when bombs they were making exploded in a Greenwich Village town house. With him in the Weather Underground was Bernardine Dohrn, who was put on the F.B.I.'s 10 Most Wanted List. J. Edgar Hoover called her ''the most dangerous woman in America'' and ''la Pasionara of the Lunatic Left.'' Mr. Ayers and Ms. Dohrn later married.

    In his book Mr. Ayers describes the Weathermen descending into a ''whirlpool of violence.''

    ''Everything was absolutely ideal on the day I bombed the Pentagon,'' he writes. But then comes a disclaimer: ''Even though I didn't actually bomb the Pentagon -- we bombed it, in the sense that Weathermen organized it and claimed it.'' He goes on to provide details about the manufacture of the bomb and how a woman he calls Anna placed the bomb in a restroom. No one was killed or injured, though damage was extensive.

    Between 1970 and 1974 the Weathermen took responsibility for 12 bombings, Mr. Ayers writes, and also helped spring Timothy Leary (sentenced on marijuana charges) from jail.

    Today, Mr. Ayers and Ms. Dohrn, 59, who is director of the Legal Clinic's Children and Family Justice Center of Northwestern University, seem like typical baby boomers, caring for aging parents, suffering the empty-nest syndrome. Their son, Malik, 21, is at the University of California, San Diego; Zayd, 24, teaches at Boston University. They have also brought up Chesa Boudin, 21, the son of David Gilbert and Kathy Boudin, who are serving prison terms for a 1981 robbery of a Brinks truck in Rockland County, N.Y., that left four people dead. Last month, Ms. Boudin's application for parole was rejected.

    So, would Mr. Ayers do it all again, he is asked? ''I don't want to discount the possibility,'' he said.
    Seen this before and just makes me sick.
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    Nah not even. theres not enough alcohol on the planet that would convince me to bang that chick.I wouldn't hit that with Magic Johnson's dick.....on second thought
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    Quote Originally Posted by JConner
    McCain definately! I believe that he is going to win this election. Obama has WAY too many links to terrorists, racists, etc... And Hillary....she is just not a likeable person and lies A LOT!
    pretty sure will get flamed like hell on this majority republican "debate" but obama's link to terrorists hmm isn't bush linked to the one terrorist we would love to catch the most. Wow his pastor was a bit racist what person of that age black or white is not a bit racist??? I do agree with you on Hillary Clinton tho completely .


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    Quote Originally Posted by Echonova
    lmao repped I've been sucked in for awhile tho.


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    did you not read 4 posts above you?
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