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i really don't see what the commotion is about, everyone knows that gas will continue to go up until it's about $5 something, which is what most of the rest of the world has been paying for a couple decades now.
and boycotting? that's just retarded, part of the reason prices just went up is bc some truckers decided to strike, so who's paying the price? the ppl that do still have to drive for one reason or the other.
When I purchased my car, it cost me $20 to fill it. Last week I spent $47 to fill it! I'm getting a Vespa :cry:
A little unknown fact is that there is an oil field in Montana, N.D. and S.D. that is larger than ANY other in the world that was found in the 60's but has been kept a secret. The tree huggers dont want any more drilling or refining in the US, but this may be made VERY public in the next few weeks to squeeze them out and shut them up. The public will silence them when this comes out as most are fed up with the prices. E85 is a good alt. fuel but can never work as a primary fuel due to its burn rate (it burns 25% faster) and production rate. If you took every square foot of farm land in america and converted it to corn only it couldnt fuel 40% of the car on the road today if they all ran E85. This is not even taking into consideration of corn for live stock or human consumption and just look at the prices on milk how they have gone up (before the diesel prices went up). Now all food is going up due to the price of diesel and will continue until we can add more drilling and refining in the US.
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Originally Posted by HypnoToad
sing that song with a cammed ls1....93 ftl, 15mpg ftl :no:
i am in search of a dd though, im not going to continue to spend this kind of money to drive my car....i shouldve never sold that pos 94 gsr i had
What, exactly, do you propose is the solution to the current problem? Do you even understand the source of the current oil prices? They aren't supply related. They aren't demand related. They are speculation related. If you want to understand how demented this problem REALLY is then read up some on commodity's trading and why the supply/demand curve no longer exists in the modern marketplace except in the most extreme upper and lower scenarios.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
The solution is then what, to force people to pay less for Oil than what other people would pay for it? Guess what, that means that we just don't get oil, and instead the price of gas here goes up because of a sudden extreme supply shortage. There's not a whole lot that can be done to solve this scenario, but it is exactly what happens when you have a coordinated group of company's that have come to the realization that competition is BAD for their business model, and thus do not compete. The only way to lower gas prices is to convince someone to start dropping the price of gas by buying for less than $106 a barrel. That means convincing an oil supplier to sell for less than $106 a barrel. That entails literally walking up to someone and saying "Hey, give yourself a pay cut buddy! I don't feel like paying that much for gas now!"
It's not gonna happen.
bwaahahahaha serves you right @$$hole.... :lmfao: I shoulda never sold it either... :doh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Evil Goat
Speculation creates a psuedo demand curve and they are very related from my understanding. Correct me if I am wrong but speculation is basically predicting market trends rather than following them.. if that is the case then supply and demand is extremely relevant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaiser
i just filled up 44 bucks in my 4 cyl rsx-s. god damn thing was 3.6/gall
Not much we can really do.
Maybe the oil from the OPEC countries will run out and the ground will sink taking all their sorry asses along.
I'm not calling you out, I'm serious. That was a retarded fuccking idea, dummy.Quote:
Originally Posted by AirBrcak
yup, that makes me feel better about havung my car parked for a month.
[QUOTE=Johnny Chimpo]A little unknown fact is that there is an oil field in Montana, N.D. and S.D. that is larger than ANY other in the world that was found in the 60's but has been kept a secret. The tree huggers dont want any more drilling or refining in the US, but this may be made VERY public in the next few weeks to squeeze them out and shut them up. The public will silence them when this comes out as most are fed up with the prices. E85 is a good alt. fuel but can never work as a primary fuel due to its burn rate (it burns 25% faster) and production rate. If you took every square foot of farm land in america and converted it to corn only it couldnt fuel 40% of the car on the road today if they all ran E85. This is not even taking into consideration of corn for live stock or human consumption and just look at the prices on milk how they have gone up (before the diesel prices went up). Now all food is going up due to the price of diesel and will continue until we can add more drilling and refining in the US.[/QUOTE]
Good luck on that one. If I am not mistaken, which I very well could be, there is a law that will not allow any more oil refineries to be built on U.S. soil. For the ones that are already up and running, it will be against the law to update them.
[QUOTE=Motivation]There hasn't been a new refinery built in 30 years, yes there is a huge oil reserve there, no they didn't find it in the 60's and it's not a secret. Our own laws prevent us from drilling. Same with ANWAR in Alaska... How many of you know that was set aside for drilling? Now the Eco-nazi's have blocked us from drilling.:( BTW: E85 is a horrible alt. fuel. Diesel is the future...Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Chimpo
[QUOTE=Echonova]which laws?:thinking:Quote:
Originally Posted by Motivation
[QUOTE=isa2o3]Legislation > 2007-2008 (110th Congress)Quote:
Originally Posted by Echonova
H.R. 777: Clean Ocean and Safe Tourism Anti-Drilling Act
To amend the Outer Continental Shelf Lands Act to permanently prohibit the conduct of offshore drilling on the outer Continental Shelf in the Mid-Atlantic and North Atlantic planning areas.
I don't think this one passed, but they are all over the place... You could look yourself too...
[QUOTE=Echonova]kool:goodjob:Quote:
Originally Posted by isa2o3
Couple more... these are the easy to find ones.
H.R. 1205: To prohibit oil and gas drilling in the Great Lakes.
H.R. 2818: To prohibit oil and gas drilling in Mosquito Creek Lake in Cortland, Ohio.
H.R. 3460: To prohibit oil and gas drilling in Finger Lakes National Forest in New York.
H.R. 2930: To prohibit the issuance of any Federal or State permit or lease for new oil and gas slant, directional, or offshore drilling in or under one or more of the Great Lakes.
H.R. 73: To protect the ecologically fragile coastal resources of south Florida by prohibiting offshore oil and gas activities and by cancelling Federal leases in the area of the Outer Continental Shelf adjacent to the south Florida coast.