to all the yuppies & Nissan Dealership

[dc2teg2006]

Check out http://www.thetunersource.com/blog/ They wrote this about the new GTR.

So true.



Everyone wants one especially the yuppies that have the special edition box collection of The Fast and Furious. These guys have ruined many cars such as Mitsubishi Evo, Toyota Supra, Subaru STi, and now they are taking our beloved Skyline away from us. When I talk about us, I mean the real car enthusiasts, the guys that made sacrifices for the cars that they currently own. The yuppies on the other hand have these cars and think they are Michael Schumacher and end up crashing them into a wall. Yuppies are the type of guys that have no respect for cars, and merely purchase them because of the latest trend.

My answer to these chumps is to always give them the good one finger salutation or a big thumbs down while seeing them on the road.

The revered status of the GT-R will definitely have a mark up over the $69K price. For the first year there will only be 1500 examples of this car. So as If the euro and yen aren’t screwing us over for imported goods our good brethren are going to screw us over as well. Price mark-ups have been verified all over the nation ranging from $20K-$60K at dealerships. Almost double!

The beauty of this car was that it was a legitimate Porsche and M3 destroyer at a fraction of the price. That was why this car was so hailed upon the news of its release globally. Now greedy dealerships are having auctions on the car for the highest bidder.

MY ****ty opinion on the new GTR.

Everyone and their grandma have asked me “You getting the New GTR?” I’m really on the fence about this car. Here’s a few of my reasonings why I’m not super into the new GTR. I’ve NEVER lusted after this car. I know it’s the new thing and it beats all the Porsche’s and it priced to be half as expensive as a Porsche Turbo and blah, blah, blah. I’ve never been the dude that needed the fastest car on the block. I like fast cars and I like funding my own go fast project cars but I don’t make any of the cars that I have had or have now to compete in a horsepower war with any of my friends and or enemies. With that out of the way another reason is I’ve never spent the countless hours thinking of owning a R35 GTR like I have on the GTR I have now. I’ve sacrificed A LOT in my personal and financial life to own the GTR I have now. I spent my house money getting a GTR and than spent probably my GF’s engagement ring, small condo down payment, and God knows what else cash to get the damn car into a state of perfection. Which the car still has a long way to go to be perfect in my eyes. Thank God and or Satan for an understanding GF that supports my ****ing madness about the Nissan GTR.

The new GTR is not a legend. It might be someday down the road but it’s not one right now. I don’t care where the **** you are if you go to a car meet in a year and see a buncha R35 GTR’s sitting around with older model GTR’s people are going to gravitate to the 32-34’s. Why? Because they are tuning legends. They were never officially available in the US and their still a ****ing ***** to own in the US today,tomorrow, and probably even 10 years down the line. They are LEGENDS. Any **** hole with money to burn and his name scribbled on a pad of paper that he is 15th in line to get a premium addition Red R35 GTR at his local Nissan dealership can have a GTR now. Thats not special in my eyes. Your jock ****head neighbor with his sweet Porsche Boxster S just read the new Sport Compact car article on the R35 is heading down to his Nissan dealership to slap his money down for spot to wait for 60G marked up R35 . ****ing idiot. He’s never been into GTR’s nor will he ever be. He just wants to be the cool guy on the block. You can now lease a a GTR in the US. LOL! that sounds so crazy to me. Everyone of my fellow GTR enthusiasts and or friends HAD TO PAY UP FRONT to own a GTR. Now you can lease the new one. Insane. No more Sacrificing to own a R35. Just have some good credit and 2nd job to cover that markup.

Now, don’t get me wrong. I REALLY love the new R35 GTR. I’m even more excited about the possible V-spec R35 GTR. I’m not standing in line and paying for a marked up one. I’m also not rushing to put any money down and wait and have the dealer play games with me about owning one. Nissan dealers you can all go **** yourselves you greedy pieces of ****. Talk about blowing the whole mystique of owning a 67 thousand dollar car that is faster than a Porsche turbo. To me it would be about owning the newest GTR and to have it hopefully sitting in my garage next to my other GTR. I wanna be viewed as a GTR enthusiast/collector and not a ****ing idiot Yuppie **** who just wants the new cheap super car on the block.

I’ve gotten my hands on a R35 GTR and molested it properly and it is an amazing car. I just hope most of them fall into the right hands. Their is gonna be so many R35 GTR casualties at SEMA 2008 LOL! I don’t even wanna think about it. there were already horrible looking ones at TAS 08.

AM I ranting to much? Probably so. Believe me, there our people that deserve to own the new R35. I know of a dude right now that has gone through hell to have one already here in the states. He went through mounds of legalities and paperwork to own older GTR’s and to own the new R35 GTR. He deserves one. He is a true automotive enthusiast. I can count on one hand some friends that should totally have the new R35 GTR in their garage

So yeah…thats SOME of my thoughts on the R35 GTR. I have plenty more but I’ll spare you that rant. I hope you can all afford one. I really do. Everyone who is a true enthusiast should experience any Nissan GTR. They are amazing cars.
I need a new ****ing hobby. Basket weaving here I come.


So what do you think? agree/disagree? Discuss

[Doppelgänger]

i agree completely.

[IDCoconut]

60k Mark up? That's ridiculous. And so what it beats the 997 Turbo? I sure ****ing hope it does if it was designed to do so, LOL. I'm sure Porsche would hand Nissan their ass if they wanted.

Then out came the GT2, lol.

[redpanda]

997>m3>gtr

[Reaper]

I'd rather spend $55k on a 01 Porsche 911 Turbo, spend 15grand in a few upgrades and spank the **** outta that car

Porsche>Nissan end of story

[chinitoxamor]

I'd rather spend $55k on a 01 Porsche 911 Turbo, spend 15grand in a few upgrades and spank the **** outta that car

Porsche>Nissan end of story

x2 at least someone knows how i feel about spending money on a car and modding it or spending money on a car thats gonna be stock lol

[Reaper]

x2 at least someone knows how i feel about spending money on a car and modding it or spending money on a car thats gonna be stock lol

its why I drive what I drive...my car may not be fast but its pretty

my next car will either be an M3, Corvette, or 911...I like luxury and power

+whatever im worth

[OneSlow5pt0]

its why I drive what I drive...my car may not be fast but its pretty

my next car will either be an M3, Corvette, or 911...I like luxury and power

+whatever im worth

those two words dont belong together,lol

[Reaper]

those two words dont belong together,lol

have you driven a corvette? Z06's are very comfortable

[chinitoxamor]

its why I drive what I drive...my car may not be fast but its pretty

my next car will either be an M3, Corvette, or 911...I like luxury and power

+whatever im worth

i would love for my next car to be a is300 or m3.. or slk 55 amg

[Deke]

Meh, he's got some good points. I think the whole "legend" argument is a little...off. But whatever...

Interesting read.

[EJ25RUN]

Meh, he's got some good points. I think the whole "legend" argument is a little...off. But whatever...

Interesting read.

*explain*

[Deke]

*explain*

Well from what I read, his whole basis for the R32, R33, and R34 being a "legend" is that you can't easily obtain them in the US. It just seems like some rather flawed logic to me. The new GTR outperforms the older ones in almost every category (if I'm not mistaken), and yet just because it's released in the US, it loses it's legendary status?

I agree that there are going to be a lot of people driving them that don't know jack about cars (yada yada yada), but find an expensive car where that isn't the case.

[ends discussing article]

[begins discussing reponses]


Now don't get me wrong, I'm not a fanboy and don't see the new GTR as the holy grail among cars or anything. But you have to see that it's still an awesome car. I just feel that a lot of people are hopping on the anti-bandwagon with this car. The "Well all of these wanna be enthusiast love this car, so I'm going to pick it apart" club.

And of course, I'd choose a comparable Ferrari, Porsche, what have you over a GTR (given the price is the same). Do you think I'm crazy?

PS: Wrong forum?

[EJ25RUN]

Well from what I read, his whole basis for the R32, R33, and R34 being a "legend" is that you can't easily obtain them in the US. It just seems like some rather flawed logic to me. The new GTR outperforms the older ones in almost every category (if I'm not mistaken), and yet just because it's released in the US, it loses it's legendary status?

I agree that there are going to be a lot of people driving them that don't know jack about cars (yada yada yada), but find an expensive car where that isn't the case.

[ends discussing article]

[begins discussing reponses]

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not a fanboy and don't see the new GTR as the holy grail among cars or anything. But you have to see that it's still an awesome car. I just feel that a lot of people are hopping on the anti-bandwagon with this car. The "Well all of these wanna be enthusiast love this car, so I'm going to pick it apart" club.

And of course, I'd choose a comparable Ferrari, Porsche, what have you over a GTR. Do you think I'm crazy?

PS: Wrong forum?

In the motoring community, this is why the GTR is a legend. It has very little to do with America and not being able to obtain it. Just like with every other "Legendary" road car (Mclaren F1, Ford GT40, dozens of Ferrari and Porsche), you have to win on the race track to gain that status.

For the GTR back in 1989. It was to start of an era where the FIA Group A Div 3 championship was to be destroyed. The R32 GTR forced the FIA to completely change GT and Touring car racing 1994. That year spawning the JGTC, the GT1 & GT2 class structure for GT racing, and the Super Touring class for saloon cars.

The first onslaught was the All Japan Touring Car Championship where it won every year from 89-93, across the pond in Austarlia, it beat out the Holden and Ford v8s to win the Bathurst 1000 in 91 and 92 and the championship in those years. Because of this, V8 Supercar was created so the GTR couldn't compete. Its been banned ever since.

Then in 94 when JGTC began under older group a rules the GTR won in 94 and 95 and finally when GT500 was implemented the 4 more times.

I dont care how much you dont like the Skyline GTR.....

but from all circles of the globe.....those that know motorsport know that starting in 1989, a car was released onto the scene that was so dominate it had to be banned from almost every serious it had been entered and all the rule books had to be rewritten.

[Deke]

In the motoring community, this is why the GTR is a legend. It has very little to do with America and not being able to obtain it. Just like with every other "Legendary" road car (Mclaren F1, Ford GT40, dozens of Ferrari and Porsche), you have to win on the race track to gain that status.

For the GTR back in 1989. It was to start of an era where the FIA Group A Div 3 championship was to be destroyed. The R32 GTR forced the FIA to completely change GT and Touring car racing 1994. That year spawning the JGTC, the GT1 & GT2 class structure for GT racing, and the Super Touring class for saloon cars.

The first onslaught was the All Japan Touring Car Championship where it won every year from 89-93, across the pond in Austarlia, it beat out the Holden and Ford v8s to win the Bathurst 1000 in 91 and 92 and the championship in those years. Because of this, V8 Supercar was created so the GTR couldn't compete. Its been banned ever since.

Then in 94 when JGTC began under older group a rules the GTR won in 94 and 95 and finally when GT500 was implemented the 4 more times.

I dont care how much you dont like the Skyline GTR.....

but from all circles of the globe.....those that know motorsport know that starting in 1989, a car was released onto the scene that was so dominate it had to be banned from almost every serious it had been entered and all the rule books had to be rewritten.

Just to clarify, I wasn't saying the others cars aren't necessarily legends. I'm just saying that nothing makes this new car any less of a legend than an R34. I was definitely not trying to slam the older Skylines, by any means.

[Thighs]

hmm... a 70-80g car that is STILL slower than a c6z, ALOT slower than the blue devil vette, has 111mph speed limiter, sensors in the wheels preventing custom ones from being used, sensors in the intake to prevent aftermarket parts from being used... ill pass.

it costs +1000 bucks to get the speed limiter removed fro a track day, nd if you dont go pay ANOTHER +-800 to get it re-installed your warranty is void. if you mod ANYTHNG, including the wheels, intake, exhaust, your warranty is gone.

WTF NISSAN?

[On_Her_Face]

Z06 > GTR

with the mark up.. ZR-1 > GTR

[ZeDFuNk]

i started reading it, but it's a bunch of rubbish, so i stopped.

[The Ninja]

i started reading it, but it's a bunch of rubbish, so i stopped.

What the f*ck are you still doing here? I thought you were supposed to be gone!

[man]

Agree completely.

Also, if you would take a Nissan over a Porsche or used Ferrari (all the same price), you are RETARDED.

Speed isn't everything, especially when you're paying ~$100k

[EJ25RUN]

Agree completely.

Also, if you would take a Nissan over a Porsche or used Ferrari (all the same price), you are RETARDED.

Speed isn't everything, especially when you're paying ~$100k

If performance is the only thing you car about, just go the route of importing
one of these purpose built speed toys: Ariel Atom, Caterham R500, Radical SR3, TVR Anything.

Or.....get a bike. Going 100mph on a bike feels like 200mph in a car.

You people need to understand that yes, the GTR has already shown that its a good car. But if speed is your only motive....you don't know what your buying.

[Reaper]

If performance is the only thing you car about, just go the route of importing
one of these purpose built speed toys: Ariel Atom, Caterham R500, Radical SR3, TVR Anything.

Or.....get a bike. Going 100mph on a bike feels like 200mph in a car.

You people need to understand that yes, the GTR has already shown that its a good car. But if speed is your only motive....you don't know what your buying.

TVR's are the ****! reps

[EJ25RUN]

TVR's are the ****! reps

Agreed.

You know 27 year old Russian Nikolay Smolensky.....Whats your opinion on assembly outside of Blackpool England?

[Reaper]

Agreed.

You know 27 year old Russian Nikolay Smolensky.....Whats your opinion on assembly outside of Blackpool England?

I'm not fond of the owner, as I was at one point scared that he was going to destroy an amazing company. TVR is still building the cars this year, which is great news! But being built in italy? ehh...I mean I understand outsourcing to an extent but I just hope the cars quality don't change. I didn't know what a TVR was until I saw swordfish...then I really got into them

[man]

Agreed.

You know 27 year old Russian Nikolay Smolensky.....Whats your opinion on assembly outside of Blackpool England?

Still designed in the UK and engine production will still be British

[Elbow]

If performance is the only thing you car about, just go the route of importing
one of these purpose built speed toys: Ariel Atom, Caterham R500, Radical SR3, TVR Anything.

Or.....get a bike. Going 100mph on a bike feels like 200mph in a car.

You people need to understand that yes, the GTR has already shown that its a good car. But if speed is your only motive....you don't know what your buying.

No need to import, we can get most of those here, except for the TVR. Radical FTMFW they handle like TRULY a large kart, so much fun you would choose it over anything

[Nissan Sean]

um do you know what the maintance and upkeep costs, are on ferrari's .it would cost way more than the GTR with those costs added in. mabye your retarded?

Agree completely.

Also, if you would take a Nissan over a Porsche or used Ferrari (all the same price), you are RETARDED.

Speed isn't everything, especially when you're paying ~$100k

[EJ25RUN]

um do you know what the maintance and upkeep costs, are on ferrari's .it would cost way more than the GTR with those costs added in. mabye your retarded?

And just what are you saying.... that a 500hp Nissan is gonna be cheap to maintain?

[Reaper]

um do you know what the maintance and upkeep costs, are on ferrari's .it would cost way more than the GTR with those costs added in. mabye your retarded?

A ferrari sure, but we were also talking about porsche....the new GTR isn't going to be cheap to work on I promise you. GTR will be cheaper to be maintained than a ferrari but won't be far off a 911 turbo

[OneSlow5pt0]

i could careless if its faster or slower than couple others car.........id spend more with a slower benz sl65 or slk55 than a GTR

[Nissan Sean]

for the money. w/ mark up on the GTR and demand on it, i would rather buy a new porsche or audi R8. if you put an R8 next to the GTR , Most people would say the R* is nicer. now the GTR maybe an engineering genuis work of art, and faster and better performing, id still choose a porsche or the Audi. Most likely the Audi. i have asked others and they said the same. oh and the GTR had the zo6 beat. mabye not faster in a strait line but better all around

[OneSlow5pt0]

if im going bare bones sports car.......its all bout the Noble m400

[Reaper]

honestly I wish you could get TVR's here in the USA, but importing/legalizing will be a ***** if I ever get the money to do so

Tuscan S convertable ftw!

[EJ25RUN]

I'm not fond of the owner, as I was at one point scared that he was going to destroy an amazing company. TVR is still building the cars this year, which is great news! But being built in italy? ehh...I mean I understand outsourcing to an extent but I just hope the cars quality don't change. I didn't know what a TVR was until I saw swordfish...then I really got into them

Mine was a video game called "Test Drive 4" back in 97.
That was when the TVR Cerbera was still made.
I'll tell you outsourcing to Italy isn't as bad as china but no matter TVR need to be made in Blackpool.

honestly I wish you could get TVR's here in the USA, but importing/legalizing will be a ***** if I ever get the money to do so

Ive seen a T350 at a Florida dealer in a Dupont Registry mag.

[Reaper]

Mine was a video game called "Test Drive 4" back in 97.
That was when the TVR Cerbera was still made.
I'll tell you outsourcing to Italy isn't as bad as china but no matter TVR need to be made in Blackpool.



Ive seen a T350 at a Florida dealer in a Dupont Registry mag.

I agree it needs to be made in Blackpool...but thats owners...

How much was the T350?

[EJ25RUN]

I agree it needs to be made in Blackpool...but thats owners...

How much was the T350?

no clue.... this might have been 1 -2 years ago.

[Reaper]

no clue.... this might have been 1 -2 years ago.

oh gotcha...if I could rock a tuscan S and a Sagaris I'd be one happy bastard...but I guess I've gotta go to England spend 100grand(each) then import it, wait 6months, spend another 20grand and then get my car.....wouldnt it be nice lol

[Reaper]

seriously, I'd rock this as a daily driver

[EJ25RUN]

seriously, I'd rock this as a daily driver

im more excited about this one....

TVR Typhon

[Ran]

im more excited about this one....

TVR Typhon

What's with the bullet hole headlights and taillights? Rather gross IMO.