sad to say this but for what i have gathered from the article.....
What kind of person runs into traffic to see cars race. Its sad but some of those people were really stupid.
Am I the only one who finds this story a little fishy? As said, who the hell runs into a crowd to see someone race, and B, who does it in a white crown vic? I think this was probably a plain clothes cop coming to break up the race and lost control. They then blamed it on the crowd. Either that, or it was some drunk who lost control of their vehicle. How often do you see people street race white crown victorias?Originally Posted by EJ25RUN
All sounds a little fishy to me.
Who races a white crown vic?
Dollars to donuts says it was a plain clothes cop who lost control of his vehicle....
My car is factory....
Every single performance part and or modification it has was made in a factory somewhere.
Originally Posted by superboost
the vic wasnt in the race, it just killed all the people standing in the middle of the road. and who exactly is goin to receive the blame for this?? is it the racers fault for racing or the peoples fault for standing in the middle of the road??
Go Back and actually read the article this time!Originally Posted by superboost
Originally Posted by EJ25RUN
I DID. GO BACK AND READ MY POST50
What I'm saying is that the story is just very poorly written. Very sensationalist. 8 killed in drag race, when clearly they weren't racing as a result. They were merely in the wrong place at the wrong time. This story is what we would like to call in the Journalism community, red herring. Very poor journalism. And seeing as how I just graduated with a journalism degree from GSU, I would know a thing or two about it.
My car is factory....
Every single performance part and or modification it has was made in a factory somewhere.
Originally Posted by superboost
Originally Posted by superboost
You got fvcked on your education because you can't even read a story correctly.
Cliff notes:
Two cars burnout (big smokey smokey)
Cars take off racing
Crowd runs into road to view race (big smokey smoke from burnout is still present)
White crown vic drives through smoke and plows over crowd
The end
cool helicopter.Originally Posted by superboost
When will people learn that street racing is stupid?![]()
While I won't say everyone does it, I know I did my fair share before I wised up. I would never do it again and if I could change the past I wouldn't have then. Just because as yet another incident shows, nothing good can come of it. I'm just glad the ones killed were there of their own accord and not innocent bystanders caught in someone else's stupidity.Originally Posted by StuntallDay
Clearly never, that dude was 61! LOL.
Bozzio for president.
^^ lol
98 Honda Civic Ex. Work in progress...
I just found this article on another forum..
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=4300538
im sure qd's response would be reps to the driver of the crown vic for eliminating a few more idiots from the gene pool.
Personally I don't think any charges should be filed other than street racing to the idiots that were in the race. I say this because presumably if the driver was not dui and he was driving down the road he reaches down to pick something up and he looks back up and all of a sudden boom their's a whole crowd of people in front of you and you kill them. The people weren't supposed to be there in the first place so how is it the drivers fault?
Epic Foxbody Thread Crew Member #10Originally Posted by AlanŽ
with a good lawyer, everything you said works.Originally Posted by redGT
Sucks for the familiys of the dead. The street racers should be charged with the most serious crime possible, I think perhaps manslaughter? The way the article I read made it seem that visibility was affected due to the smoke and such...so as a direct result of the childish antics 8 people are dead. Ain't street racing cool?
oh and some ppl need to READ articles before posting.![]()
I just dont understand why its drag racing that got these people killed.
Drag racing had nothing to do with the guy hitting the people. Sounds like theres just trying to find a reason for this guy not to be at fault.
Also the driver should be the one charged. IMO
Well that makes you an idiot. Ok let me put it to youthis way. It's 3 A.M. and instead of these idiots being at home asleep or something. They get out in the middle of the highway and watch a street race. They are already commiting two crimes. Assuming the dude wasn't dui or something he's driving down the road drops something takes his eyes off the road to pick it up asssuming that hey its 3 am its not like im gonna hit someone and what happens bam he hits 8 people.You still think its the drivers fault?Originally Posted by WhiteAccord
Epic Foxbody Thread Crew Member #10Originally Posted by AlanŽ
HAHA.. the only crime they committed was J-walking... Read the article, one of the witnesses said the person didn't have their lights on. Just because they are going to watch an illegal race doesn't mean they needed to be hit by a car. Stupid on everyones part. The driver still should have been paying attention...Originally Posted by redGT
they were also spectators to a street race which is a citable offense. Also the thing about the headlights couldn't be confirmed. Point is they were in a place they weren't supposed to be doing something they weren't supposed to be and it resulted in 8 people losing their lives.Originally Posted by SicStang03
Epic Foxbody Thread Crew Member #10Originally Posted by AlanŽ
um thats what the dumb asses that were watching the race said. so take that with a grain of salt.Originally Posted by SicStang03
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-IA MGMT is inappropriate.
Either way, its no good. Personally the people in the wrong were the ones standing out in the middle of the road. No need to blam the two racing for their deaths. Street racing maybe, but manslaughter come on.I'm sure the people who lost family members are just trying to blam someone other than their selfs for being out there in the first place. Since when did street racing become a family outting??? White trash??
you've obviously never had someone else's idiocy result in something bad happening to you.Originally Posted by WhiteAccord
Sh.it happens
You take this risk when you watch or participate in a street race. As long as the driver was not under the influence and/or he did not intend to hit them, I don't think he should be charged and the same goes to the two drivers that were racing.
2006 Evo IX - Bolt ons
Idont know what to say.
thank god!Originally Posted by dumbwit3k1d
but its funny how the driver that ran into the group of people didnt see them.
I mean, it said that there was 50 people there....how can u not see 50 people down the road?
I bet the guy didn't have his lights on. A group of 10 ppl would have saw the headlights even if they werent looking that way since it was the middle of the night and it was a flat road.
I could see 1 - 3 ppl being hit if he had his lights on
2006 Evo IX - Bolt ons
"She grabbed her daughter, pulling the girl to safety. But her father, William Gaines Sr., 61, had a broken leg, and was not able to get away in time. Afterward, she found his body on the road."
If anybody is charged, it should be this woman endangering her child
+9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 999999999999999Originally Posted by baggedvenge
And this street racing age thing is so random. WTH is 60 year old mad doing at street racing. Or better yet, what is a women with a child doing there.
Actually, legally, many people can and should be charged.
The racers were breaking the law with street racing. They should be charged with contest of speed and possibly wreckless driving.
The lady who lost her father should be charged with child endangerment, jay walking, possible some more stuff they can find - but that won't bring her father back. She will suffer already.
I'm not sure if Virginia has a law saying that you cannot spectate at a street race, so anyone else there might nit be chargeable - since it would be hard to prove who was and wasn't jaywalking. However, they might be able to charge them with some sort of illegal congregation law. Most states have something like that.
The driver of the Crown Vic should most definately be charged. If yoiu drive down the road and run into a foggy area, and hit a stopped car - you are at fault. While this does not seem right, it is legal. This driver should be charged with multiple counts of manslaughter legally, no matter how stupid it seems.
There are really no winners in this incident. It's just an accident. Accidents do happen.
Before everyone rushes to say street racing is dangerous, think of this. People race across the country every weekend, and we hear of a deadly crash once in a while. If you looked at legal racing vs illegal racing, how many deaths per capita do you think you would find? Bottom line is - any activity that a person engages in can and will be "dangerous" - even knitting (needle "could" go through your throat). Living is a chance at dying.
That's differnet though that basically just following too close. How can you justify charging someone with manslaughter when those people shouldn't have been there in the first place?Originally Posted by David88vert
Epic Foxbody Thread Crew Member #10Originally Posted by AlanŽ
Never said anything about following too close. That would not be applicable in this situation.Originally Posted by redGT
People have the right of way over vehicles on the road. Even if a person is jaywalking, legally, you cannot hit them. I did not say it was right, just the legality of the situation.
what i was saying that if a car hits a parked car on the side of the road like the example you gave it would simply be following to close or something along those lines.Originally Posted by David88vert
Epic Foxbody Thread Crew Member #10Originally Posted by AlanŽ
Incorrect. Following too closely happens on a moving car. Not a parked one. If the person in the Crown Vic had hit a car that was parked in the middle of the road, they could still be charged legally. It happens here some.Originally Posted by redGT
did they catch the "racers"
nope not yetOriginally Posted by wantboost
Epic Foxbody Thread Crew Member #10Originally Posted by AlanŽ