OK, Since Everyone Said The Parts Store Would Fail...
By my house there's like a big empty lot; it used to be a Target, but it's been long gone. Now I'm thinking of knocking down a lot of the used-to-be store and making the whole thing into a drift/gymkhana/autox site, where you would pay something like aflat fee and shred as many tires as you want without the cops busting your nuts. Now I want to know if anyone on here would be willing to pay for something like this and how much; I was thinking like somewhere around $25-$35 for all-day practice.
Originally Posted by Lucky SC
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maybe for 10-20 minutes they could drift.. if you do all day prcatice you'll lose money.. you'll have 3 cars out there all day if they bring enough tires, lol.
The insurance you'd have to pay to open something like that would be super high I would think. I do like the idea though. Like said above, if you pay a flat rate for 30-60 minutes for whatever you want. But im sure there are gonna be wierd regulations and insurance for that to work. Good luck though
OK, since you think the pricing is wonky, how about this: what do you think would be the right amount of money for these times:
1 hr:
2 hr:
3 hr:
all day:
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I have no clue what people normally pay to autox or drift, but I'd say something like:
1hr:$25
2hr:$40
3hr:$55
All Day:$75
Something roughly like $20-25 an hour per person driving the car, and maybe like $5 per day for anyone else in the car such as a passenger. But for all day i'd keep the price fairly low or else no one would do it. Like if it cost $200 for the whole day I dont think people would do it. Keep in mind you could also sell drinks/snacks/etc. Before you get too far into it though, I would go talk to whoever is in charge of opening new businesses in the city. Depending on the location, they may have regulations against this because of the noise, smoke, and smell (of smoke) that is going to be around all day everyday. For instance i don't see this happening in a city. It's just too "annoying" for the average person that would be shopping or whatever. If its on the outskirts of somewhere where there aren't many people, it may work.
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1 hr:$30
2 hr:$50
3 hr:$65
all day: $ 125
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Well, Mr_Mischif, let me start by giving you this qoute:
"Keep away from people who belittle your ambitions. Small people always do that, but the really great make you feel that you, too, can become great."
-Mark Twain
Now tho, the reasoning behind them saying you'd fail may be valid, you do what you feel you wanna do. There's always exceptions to every rule, it's the little people with big dreams who succeed.
Now I'm not shytting on the people who posted that he'd fail. I'm simply saying, that's the main reason alot of people never make it, people not beleiving in themselves/idea's. Goofier shyt has suceeded in the past : The pet rock, The chia pet, hell even the clapper.
Now granted, you could fail, but is it better to try & maybe be successful, or listen to others, not try & wonder "what if"? I'd advise researching, & man if you feel it in your heart DO THE DAMN THING, & don't look back.
You sir, are absolutely correct. He should go for whatever he wants to do. But you are comparing a Million dollar + venture to a Clay pot that plants grow out of, a rock and a small device that clicks on the lights. While they are worthy inventions, they are small, cheap to conceive (hell I got 500000000 pet rocks in my backyard) and are easily mass marketable.Well, Mr_Mischif, let me start by giving you this qoute:
"Keep away from people who belittle your ambitions. Small people always do that, but the really great make you feel that you, too, can become great."
-Mark Twain
Now tho, the reasoning behind them saying you'd fail may be valid, you do what you feel you wanna do. There's always exceptions to every rule, it's the little people with big dreams who succeed.
Now I'm not shytting on the people who posted that he'd fail. I'm simply saying, that's the main reason alot of people never make it, people not beleiving in themselves/idea's. Goofier shyt has suceeded in the past : The pet rock, The chia pet, hell even the clapper.
Now granted, you could fail, but is it better to try & maybe be successful, or listen to others, not try & wonder "what if"? I'd advise researching, & man if you feel it in your heart DO THE DAMN THING, & don't look back.
He seems to be looking for something to do, not really invest in per se, but do. He wants to do something. But the scale he is wanting to do it on is huge. Hell, he hadn't even thought of insurance, EMT's and paving. Like most of us when planning something, we skip over the getting there and go straight to the money.
So, while I think it would be a great idea, it's a nigh unattainable one without a hefty investor with lots of capital.
Let's ask the grading guy. Put together an estimate on a lot the size of a Target, with parking, slideout zones for out of control cars, pavement and the incredible amount of barriers you are going to have to have to satisy the city. That is just one part of this venture. Because you won't get away with flags like DGTrials one day events, not being a permanant site.
I can tell you this, I think our Insurance costs were right around 1000-2000 (depending on who we used) for just one day at a Seda event. I think the lowest we got it down too was $500. For one day.
It's not as easy as it sounds. By far.
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hmm I seem to remember a place called BHC... I also seem to remember all the hoopla and commotion and that half of the people that said they'd support such a place never did. You just have to remember that this is IA, where most of the racing happens online.
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Can you give me the name of the company that insures the SEDA events? I want to see how much a year it would cost me to insure my site. Also do you know any place where I can electronically check the size of locations such as my deserted Target lot? Plus zoning if you can; I'm just in the "dream" stage of this project right now, but if I think I won't have to live in the gutter for 15 years if it fails, I just might say f*ck it and do it.You sir, are absolutely correct. He should go for whatever he wants to do. But you are comparing a Million dollar + venture to a Clay pot that plants grow out of, a rock and a small device that clicks on the lights. While they are worthy inventions, they are small, cheap to conceive (hell I got 500000000 pet rocks in my backyard) and are easily mass marketable.
He seems to be looking for something to do, not really invest in per se, but do. He wants to do something. But the scale he is wanting to do it on is huge. Hell, he hadn't even thought of insurance, EMT's and paving. Like most of us when planning something, we skip over the getting there and go straight to the money.
So, while I think it would be a great idea, it's a nigh unattainable one without a hefty investor with lots of capital.
Let's ask the grading guy. Put together an estimate on a lot the size of a Target, with parking, slideout zones for out of control cars, pavement and the incredible amount of barriers you are going to have to have to satisy the city. That is just one part of this venture. Because you won't get away with flags like DGTrials one day events, not being a permanant site.
I can tell you this, I think our Insurance costs were right around 1000-2000 (depending on who we used) for just one day at a Seda event. I think the lowest we got it down too was $500. For one day.
It's not as easy as it sounds. By far.
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i say do it. i'd definately come. been wanting to learn how to drift.
You really have the worst ideas out there for business's dont you?
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LOL sorry that's what I was thinking as well. You would NEVER make a living off of this idea.
Depending on the location, overtime it could be profitable but certainly not enough to live off of. In the beginning it will barely make anything but if it lasted a few years i think word would spread and the "track" or whatever could get better and people might do it. If you have the spare money to buy the land and pay for insurance/maintence/fixing stuff, i say do it. If you're relying on this to pay all of your bills I say don't bother or open it with a few people and split costs.
O RLY? Considering there are so many people who saw the last F&F and want to learn how to drift, I would say that it wouldn't be too bad if I get enough customers.
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make a go kart track instead... you'd make more money that way...
i'm sure there would be ordinances about noise and things like that in the area, especially if a target used to be there then it's probably in a busy city. the town might not like that too much
open a sports bar, or some other venue. Sports bar= big bucks, I will be opening one in about 2yrs.
Yeah there are SOOOOOOOOO many variables in something like this.
Ok, having been an owner of SEDA, I can safely tell you that your busniness idea would fail.
First off. Insurance would eat you alive.
Secondly, your liability would be astronomical.
Thirdly, zoning would be impossible.
I don't even know if Fourthly is a word but, noise violations and complaints would shut you down within the first month.
We did an event at Gwinnett county fairgrounds once.........once. We had so many complaints that an officer was dispatched to sit there. The reason? Screeching tires. Makes everyone around think there's been an accident and they call out the cops.
It's a wonderful idea, but it's a fantasy. You will lose your ass. Black Hills Circuit is losing it's ass right now. Sure it's far away, but they have none of the problems that I mentioned above.
At your place you will have to have track personel, EMT's, Fire services, security and god knows what else because it will be classified as a racing facility. This isn't a skatepark we are talking about.
Repaving alone in the kind of asphalt you would need will run you well over 500,000 i'm sure. To repave and extend BHC was something close to a Mil I think, Could be wrong on that but my paving at my business was over 70,000 and it's tiny.
So open a T-shirt shop and call it a day. Anything more than that will bankrupt you and you'll end up either committing suicide or robbing a 7-11.
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Wow. I knew it would have a lot of difficulties, but I totally forgot about ins/EMS/paving.
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BUT WAIT...There's more.
Plans, planning commision, lawyers fee's (because youa re going to have to go to war with anyone or any business in the area that doesn't want a bunch of fast car driving hoodlums racing around there), hell, just your fee's to have it all drawn up will be in the thousands. Plus all the copys of said plans for every crew that working on the project (and the extra copys for when they leave it at the bar, in their car, at home, destroy it by running over it with a backhoe or paving machine) and so on and so forth.
Then you get to take bids, deal with contracters, deal with theft of materials, electrical permits for the lighting, grease the hands of politicians to fight for you on the city council (such as buying their wives ****ty ass Amway products) and many more fun and exciting hiccups and snafus that come along. The EPA will be your friend throughout the entire experience along with an onsite monitoring company who like to show up at the wee hours of the morning to find the bad things that the crews from the day before forgot to pick up so you get fined.
I'd rather stick my **** in a blender.
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You, sir, know your ****. Have some +rep if i can
especially the end!
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Do you know how many millions the building/lot alone would cost you? This is commercial property. You'd have to to charge $1000 a car to make it profitable even if you could get past the zoning, etc.
Who are you? I drove at the GCF event, and its still considered by a lot of people who went, to have been one of the best events thats been held in Ga. The track layout was amazing, and it was long. Not like the typical events we get now, with a "track" containing usually 4 corners. While those are great for learning consistency, they're not nearly as fun as thrashing your car for almost a solid minute.
Is anything happening with BHC, or are you guys just gonna leave it as it?
from what i've seen the guy is trying to sell it. for a mere $280k you can own your own beat up kart track in the middle of nowhere, GA.
Open a car wash that RECYCLES WATER.
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OR a skating ring...
I will build it.
Last edited by Seymour222; 11-22-2007 at 02:00 AM.
open a ice rink.........like kelly said....sucks we dont have any rinks here,then people could have ice hockey leagues
It is a wonderful idea. It IS difficult. But what business on this earth can you make money overnight with NO effort involved...Very few and its fly by night. High Risk-High Gain. It def. would be a plus to deal with a construction management company. You need investors too.
DG Trials (http://www.dgtrials.com/) has drift events in the parking lot of Turner field. Why not start there?
And yeah, I'd be there if you start the events!
- Drifty
Out of all places, they are trying to shut down Road A.
yeah the go kart track would be a much better idea... andretti's makes a fuc*ing killing! all you do is sit in a ridiculous fast go kart for 15 minutes and pay 50 bucks for it... 50 bucks x 20 people = 1,000 every 15 minutes! i know that math is basic but the concept is there... people love go karts or doing something exciting where they wont be held responsible if they mess up.
stand on the street corner..you'll make more money
man somethin likemthat would be awesome. i have always thought the city should open up a drag strip for all of us "street racers" to run on. they could charge for entry and less people would street race. they actually did somethin like this in California if i remember right. or just a huge lot for people to F around on(drifting, auto x etc..)
listen anything with coruption will have a better chance... sex store or package store have better hopes.
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