ANTI-IMMIGRANT?....

[Brick]

I don't mind immigrants, as long as they're legal.

[tony]

As for the cost of immigration to the public sector, rather than draining taxpayer coffers, immigrants actually contribute positively to the economic health of the United States; indeed, recent immigrants create a net surplus to the public sector of nearly $30 billion annually, according to the Urban Institute.

I have been telling people this for a while now, its the reason why all this immagration reform is a bluff.. the federal government is not going to shoot itself in the foot by doing away with something that contributes to the economy.

We live in a capitalistic society people, more times than often the almighty dollar is going to win. I have some personal views on immigration but its not relevant.

[GDuty5_Chic]

is that all you think is involved w/ becoming a US citizen?? when is the last time you filed for US citizenship???

the process is a lot more then a dumbass 25 question test about who won the civil war and who the 1st president was. even that test is in spanish now lolol

I just past for citizenship last year! I waited a year for my appointment, they give you 100 easy ass questions to learn. They asked me 3 questions and the rest was filing paperwork.

[The Ninja]

ask your great grandparents, Im sure they know a thing or two about being immigrants.

or let me guess, you were born on a reservation here?

My mom is an immigrant from Trinidad. I asked her, and she said it wasn't too hard. She's legal and has been paying taxes since she's been here. I was born in a reservation camp I like to call BROOKLYN *****!

[The Ninja]

Pops is an immigrant from Jamaica, he too said it was pretty simple.

[japan4racing]

why do they have to be illegal? there is no punishment for coming over here "illegally" all you get is a one way trip home so you can try again the next day. thereis nothing that deters them from coming over here. i dont even know why the term illegal alien exists. to do something illegal you have to break a law. when you break a law you go to jail or pay fines.....when you come over the border you just go back to try again. its bull****. why dont we just fly to iraq and afganistan and load up all the taliban and bring them over. it would save them alot of money and they could all go to school here for free and we could teach them how to destroy or country from the inside out!

i cant wait untill i have kids and they are in school....they will take english as a 2nd language..we will have white history month...i cant wait to be the minority. i want my free ****...i want my job becuase of my skin color....i want a check from the govt...i want all responsibility to be stripped away from me. let the govt and the ppl of this country take care of me!!! its about time the roles were reversed!!!

im tired of paying more for taxes and health care benefits that most ppl make in a year. i spent $10k just in state and federal taxes last year. health care is retarded expensive. on my last pay check i took home $1 more than was taken out of my check....i took home half of my paycheck...why? because of hard working americans? because of law abiding citizens? perhaps it was because of the excellent managment of our welfare system......im giving the credit to ppl that are here that should not be here. i have to pay for ppl that dont want to go out and do something with their lives..i have to pay for that illegal that wrecked his car and had no insurance, i gotta pay for healthcare to someone that was not insured becuase they were illegal.

go back to whereever you came from and come back legally. dont just come over here and **** out a baby and think you are welcome to make yourself at home.

/rant

[thinkfast®]

you go girl

[The Ninja]

Oh snap!

[SpeedMonkey]

nothing funnier than a pissed off white man.



its NOT that easy... specially for mexicans.. do you not understand..... its more profitable to KEEP them illegal than legal.

[SpeedMonkey]

why do they have to be illegal? there is no punishment for coming over here "illegally" all you get is a one way trip home so you can try again the next day. thereis nothing that deters them from coming over here. i dont even know why the term illegal alien exists. to do something illegal you have to break a law. when you break a law you go to jail or pay fines.....when you come over the border you just go back to try again. its bull****. why dont we just fly to iraq and afganistan and load up all the taliban and bring them over. it would save them alot of money and they could all go to school here for free and we could teach them how to destroy or country from the inside out!

i cant wait untill i have kids and they are in school....they will take english as a 2nd language..we will have white history month...i cant wait to be the minority. i want my free ****...i want my job becuase of my skin color....i want a check from the govt...i want all responsibility to be stripped away from me. let the govt and the ppl of this country take care of me!!! its about time the roles were reversed!!!

im tired of paying more for taxes and health care benefits that most ppl make in a year. i spent $10k just in state and federal taxes last year. health care is retarded expensive. on my last pay check i took home $1 more than was taken out of my check....i took home half of my paycheck...why? because of hard working americans? because of law abiding citizens? perhaps it was because of the excellent managment of our welfare system......im giving the credit to ppl that are here that should not be here. i have to pay for ppl that dont want to go out and do something with their lives..i have to pay for that illegal that wrecked his car and had no insurance, i gotta pay for healthcare to someone that was not insured becuase they were illegal.

go back to whereever you came from and come back legally. dont just come over here and **** out a baby and think you are welcome to make yourself at home.

/rant

so its the illegals fault your car is ****ed up right?

look at it like this.. why cant they get licenses in america... however america has made it possible for them to buy a car with no license.. no license = no insurance...... tahts right.. even gwinnett ford financed with tax id's.. no SS#'s... go ***** at them.. better yet...
next time.. be pissed at yourself... the voter... you wanted to give the illegals a hard time to make them leave... they arent going anywhere... so its for YOUR best interest to watch WHO the **** you vote for next time.

[soplocar]

I am an inmigrant, i came here legally, I pay taxes,i speak english, I finished High School, I work at the same place for the past 6 years.
I know theres a lot of people here that complains about illegal inmigrants not paying taxes and sucking up the taxpayers money, well, it is not easy but the solution could be this:
1. secure the border., that means more border patroll involved. Building a wall is not the solution. When the american goverment closes a door, 2 more will be open.
2. let illegal people become Legal, its like this, if they have no felonies, help them.
just kick out the inmigrants that have felonies, just do a background check on all the people that applies.
3. if they are legal, they must pay taxes like everyone else, if they dont just "KICK THEM OUT", believe me when i say that they would do everything right in order to stay here legally.


so Legal inmigrant = license = insurance = no hit and run = pay taxes = economy goes up.

[japan4racing]

so its the illegals fault your car is ****ed up right?

look at it like this.. why cant they get licenses in america... however america has made it possible for them to buy a car with no license.. no license = no insurance...... tahts right.. even gwinnett ford financed with tax id's.. no SS#'s... go ***** at them.. better yet...
next time.. be pissed at yourself... the voter... you wanted to give the illegals a hard time to make them leave... they arent going anywhere... so its for YOUR best interest to watch WHO the **** you vote for next time.

wtf are you talking about? if i drink and drive and hit some one its automatically my fault..i broke a law and i suffer the consequences. so if some illegal hits me with no insurance yes its on them. i break a law i get penalized..they break a law the same should happen to them.

so now its my fault as a voter that these illegals are crossing the border. news flash buddy..they are illegal..they are breaking the law coming here. no matter what he **** i vote for they are still gonna come over here. speaking of voting..these assholes cant even vote. they cant do **** but suck this country dry living of the programs democrats put into effect to help the lazy ****s of this country. c'mon man. im not ****ing stupid. i know alot of these illegals work very hard..but it still dont change the fact that they are here illegally. when you make 12k a year you dont notice it but try making $50k+ a year and see how you like pulling the weight of every person that dont wanna go out and do **** the way you are supposed to. beside how the **** do you know who i voted for..did you vote? what are you doing for your country? if you didnt vote then you need to gtfo...i work for DoD and i keep c17's and c5's flying missions to keep this country like it is. i pay taxes, every day at work we play the national anthem, everyday i fix a plane that was in the desert. why? so that ppl like you can enjoy a freedom like this site..so that all these illegals can come to this country and enjoy such lavish living at the expense of our own relatives dieing in iraq and the tax dollars that me and you spend. yes it pisses me off to see ppl take advantage of this country. yes im pissed to see you take the side of ppl that are not citizens of our country. we should stand up and take a stand against illegal immigrants. you come here legally and you are good to go. but you come here illegally and you expect the same rights i have yet you dont pay taxes and you came by way of breaking a law??? you dont support his country you want to bring mexico into this country and over run it? **** you illegal immigrant..take your bull**** back across the border. this is america. learn english, learn how we work and come on back legally. untill then stay in mexico and leach off the govt they have. i dont se whyteh hell you ppl cant understand this ****. it has nothing to do with being a pissed off white guy...it has everyting to do with being a pissed off american.

I am an inmigrant, i came here legally, I pay taxes,i speak english, I finished High School, I work at the same place for the past 6 years.
I know theres a lot of people here that complains about illegal inmigrants not paying taxes and sucking up the taxpayers money, well, it is not easy but the solution could be this:
1. secure the border., that means more border patroll involved. Building a wall is not the solution. When the american goverment closes a door, 2 more will be open.
2. let illegal people become Legal, its like this, if they have no felonies, help them.
just kick out the inmigrants that have felonies, just do a background check on all the people that applies.
3. if they are legal, they must pay taxes like everyone else, if they dont just "KICK THEM OUT", believe me when i say that they would do everything right in order to stay here legally.


so Legal inmigrant = license = insurance = no hit and run = pay taxes = economy goes up.

i could not agree with you more...yet im the racist white guy becuase im tired of this country being sucked dry by illegals...i dont give 2 ****s what color they are..what religion, sex, creed, species whatever..i dont care..if you are illegal you are illegal. gtfo!

discuss......

[Maniaç]

japan4racing, thats a cute story and all but no one really gives a fuck.

[4dmin]

you dont HAVE to pay taxes... however most of them do. dont you think they're entitled to some basic privileges?

or the right to be pissed off and speak out when thats what MOST of you bitches cry about? TAXES... most of them pay them.. so what IS your issue?


if the truth lies somewhere in the side of your wife sucking off a mexican while being with you...... let it be known.. cause i see no reason for your attitude.

no your not entitled to anything if your illegal! don't like it become legal. the majority only are paying for sales tax and i highly count that as paying taxes.

oh goodjob on the b!tch move but my wife prefers crackers over bean dip

[soul]

i think i got the solution

[Kyle]

Immigrants are cool, but illegal immigrants are...well illegal. Laws are made for a reason. I'm all for immigration, but you can't just bypass our immigration process for your own convenience. They need to go through the process everyone else has to.

[japan4racing]

japan4racing, thats a cute story and all but no one really gives a fuck.

the sad part is that you should give a ****...keep on voting democrat and enjoy the down fall of this country

[speedminded]

We were all immigrants at one time or another.

[ISAtlanta300]

no your not entitled to anything if your illegal! don't like it become legal. the majority only are paying for sales tax and i highly count that as paying taxes.

See whenever the "illegal" debate comes out, all we hear is the "they don't pay taxes" argument..... The only thing they MAY not pay is income tax, but with their income, if they were to file taxes, I willing to bet that most will get refunds... LOL

Try paying sales tax, ad valorem tax, property tax etc. and not getting to file them.....

Which would benefit the government more, legal immigrants who file taxes and may get money back due to their income bracket or illegals who may skimp on their income tax, but pay all other taxes and get nothing back?

[ISAtlanta300]

its NOT that easy... specially for mexicans.. do you not understand..... its more profitable to KEEP them illegal than legal.

Quoted for truth, it's not that easy.

Believe me, I have had an immigration lawyer say the only way is 1. Get sponsored by a relative or 2. get married. And he was talking to someone with an advanced college degree who was multi-lingual.....

[Maniaç]

For once ISAtlanta300 has a point, I too am Mexican and know all about how to become legal and the long process that follows. Alot of you don't know this, and just asume that its a 1 to a week thing, wrong!

[japan4racing]

ther sure seems to be a bunch of ppl saying it aint that easy but they seem to be keeping it a secret..what all does it take to become legal? and regardless of how hard it is to become legal should we still let illegals in? its hard to do alot of things....but that dont make it right to it illegally.

and for the taxes arguement...getting money back is just a by product of paying too much in. even if they got some money back they still had to pay in with income taxes. hell the last 3 years i have gotten over 2 grand back...but i have paid in nearly 30 grand in those three years. and i guarantee if i stop paying taxes they are coming to get me...but not mr. illegal. he dont pay taxes and is in the country illegally and when he gets caught....worst case scenario....3 squares and a shower then back to mexico to try again. i say we post snipers on the border and shoot every leech that comes over here. we are on our way to being meximerica

[4dmin]

See whenever the "illegal" debate comes out, all we hear is the "they don't pay taxes" argument..... The only thing they MAY not pay is income tax, but with their income, if they were to file taxes, I willing to bet that most will get refunds... LOL

Try paying sales tax, ad valorem tax, property tax etc. and not getting to file them.....

Which would benefit the government more, legal immigrants who file taxes and may get money back due to their income bracket or illegals who may skimp on their income tax, but pay all other taxes and get nothing back?

there are many more reasons then just taxes... healthcare is a HUGE issue... some illegal baby factory can get FREE healthcare that I and everyother american has to pay for; then beyond that their children are now automatic citizens. Going back to taxes this is one of the reasons Fair Tax needs to be passed so we can get more taxes out of illegals in this country.

I have nothing against illegals that are here to work and make a better life for themselves... now when they start to complain about what they are entitled to - lol. You are a criminal you have no rights so STFU.

[VooDooXII]

The only thing we need is a sensible process of making people citizens...not something that takes years and years on end.

[ISAtlanta300]

For once ISAtlanta300 has a point, I too am Mexican and know all about how to become legal and the long process that follows. Alot of you don't know this, and just asume that its a 1 to a week thing, wrong!

Exactly, and all the while what are you supposed to do... just sit around and do nothing for years on end while waiting for your papers?

[ISAtlanta300]

ther sure seems to be a bunch of ppl saying it aint that easy but they seem to be keeping it a secret..what all does it take to become legal? and regardless of how hard it is to become legal should we still let illegals in? its hard to do alot of things....but that dont make it right to it illegally.

and for the taxes arguement...getting money back is just a by product of paying too much in. even if they got some money back they still had to pay in with income taxes. hell the last 3 years i have gotten over 2 grand back...but i have paid in nearly 30 grand in those three years. and i guarantee if i stop paying taxes they are coming to get me...but not mr. illegal. he dont pay taxes and is in the country illegally and when he gets caught....worst case scenario....3 squares and a shower then back to mexico to try again. i say we post snipers on the border and shoot every leech that comes over here. we are on our way to being meximerica

You paid 30K in taxes? that is more than what Mr. Illegal would probably make in a year under the table....

[japan4racing]

there are many more reasons then just taxes... healthcare is a HUGE issue... some illegal baby factory can get FREE healthcare that I and everyother american has to pay for; then beyond that their children are now automatic citizens. Going back to taxes this is one of the reasons Fair Tax needs to be passed so we can get more taxes out of illegals in this country.

I have nothing against illegals that are here to work and make a better life for themselves... now when they start to complain about what they are entitled to - lol. You are a criminal you have no rights so STFU.

truth...pure thruth.... especially the last line

[japan4racing]

You paid 30K in taxes? that is more than what Mr. Illegal would probably make in a year under the table....

over a 3 year period..yes i did pay 30k in taxes. roughly 10k every year i pay that much. and i still have to pay for medical insurance and then when i go to a hospital i still have bills to pay from it. meanwhile and illegal can go to a hospital and get the same care for free....who do you think is paying for it? me and you. they should get stiffer on the companies that pay these guys under the table too. and you cant really blam the illegals our own ppl are doing it to us. the illegals are just taking advantage of it. send em back and make em come back legally. there are many problems in this country and legalizing all these illegals may not fix all our problems but getting all that tax income and healthcare income from them sure wont hurt us.

[SampaGuy]

Whats stopping them from becoming legal?

[SampaGuy]

I just past for citizenship last year! I waited a year for my appointment, they give you 100 easy ass questions to learn. They asked me 3 questions and the rest was filing paperwork.

You obviously already had legal resident status. Thats completely different.

[VooDooXII]

The only thing we need is a sensible process of making people citizens...not something that takes years and years on end.

Like I said.

[Brick]

The fact that it's difficult and lengthy to become legal doesn't change the fact that illegals should get the **** out if they have no intention of doing so.

[VooDooXII]

They're coming here and they're willing to work...why not make it easier for them to become normal, tax-paying, American citizens? These are normal people who are being turned into criminals because of this. If the process was not so difficult and lengthy, I'm sure they'd gladly go through it so they can work here without constantly having to watch their back. It's not good for us, and it's not good for them. Fix the process, and I'd say that's the solution.

[japan4racing]

These are normal people who are being turned into criminals because of this.

no no my freind....coming here illegally only carriess a sentence of going back home to try again. the only ones that are criminals came with criminal intent. with it being hard to get a green card it dont mean you need rape someone, drive without insurance or liscence, rob a gas station, or murder anyone. there are many illegal aliens that come here and abide by the laws..while i call them illegal they may not be criminals. i want them to be here legally and untill then go back home. regardless of how well they work they are still sucking this country dry. i dont give a **** if you are the hardest working person to ever grace the face of this planet. if you cant pay the same taxes i pay, pay the same rediculous medical prices i pay, and pay the same rediculous insurance rates i pay then you need to gtfo! im all for having hard working ppl here....legally. hell..get rid of 70% of the usa's lazy ass population and bring in 85% of mexico's population...just do it legally and pay for the same **** i pay for. im just tired of carrying everyones weight. it must be nice to be in the welfare system and sit on your ass and get paid while i work all year long and get half of the money i actually earned. trade those welfair suckers in on some hard working mexicans that pay taxes and we got ourselves a booming economy on our hands...if only we could really trade like that....... :dreaming:

[ISAtlanta300]

and illegal can go to a hospital and get the same care for free....who do you think is paying for it?

they don't really get the same care.... Mr. Illegal would go to Grady while you would prob. go to Northside or something...lol

[SpeedMonkey]

The fact that it's difficult and lengthy to become legal doesn't change the fact that illegals should get the **** out if they have no intention of doing so.

thats just it you moron.. they ALL want it.

[SpeedMonkey]

no no my freind....coming here illegally only carriess a sentence of going back home to try again. the only ones that are criminals came with criminal intent. with it being hard to get a green card it dont mean you need rape someone, drive without insurance or liscence, rob a gas station, or murder anyone. there are many illegal aliens that come here and abide by the laws..while i call them illegal they may not be criminals. i want them to be here legally and untill then go back home. regardless of how well they work they are still sucking this country dry. i dont give a **** if you are the hardest working person to ever grace the face of this planet. if you cant pay the same taxes i pay, pay the same rediculous medical prices i pay, and pay the same rediculous insurance rates i pay then you need to gtfo! im all for having hard working ppl here....legally. hell..get rid of 70% of the usa's lazy ass population and bring in 85% of mexico's population...just do it legally and pay for the same **** i pay for. im just tired of carrying everyones weight. it must be nice to be in the welfare system and sit on your ass and get paid while i work all year long and get half of the money i actually earned. trade those welfair suckers in on some hard working mexicans that pay taxes and we got ourselves a booming economy on our hands...if only we could really trade like that....... :dreaming:

you sir are by FAR the biggest moron to have posted on my thread.

READ CAREFULLY

no social Security # =
1. No license
2. no license = no insurance


you just CANT go to the DMV and have it all gravy..... as someone who pays over 30K a year in taxes alone as so you claim... i'd figure you sure would pay mind to who's running for anything, watch your vote... i refuse to beleive you pay 30K in taxes and yet know nothing.

[thinkfast®]

where you been puto

[SpeedMonkey]

DEAR PAUL (ADMIN)



insurance fraud = 98 % americans

Healthcare abuse = 90% + americans

Welfare abuse = 100% americans


as an american i'd figure you'd rather pay for "Pedro's" broken leg from falling off the roof of your house when he was replacing shingles rather than pay for the kids that were injured because some dumb **** emotional american felt like he had no friends and no one loved him so it felt like a great idea to take a 9mm to school and put led in his classmates.... this is happening like how often now? every other month?.


im sorry paul... but whats happening is inevitable... we will over populate you.. you will learn spanish as we have learned your english and you will be forced to deal with it... while your wife might not experience the brown ****.. your daughters definately will. i pray for it to be my kid who impregnates your daughter.. so i can send him back to mexico and truly give you a reason to hate the brown man, you are a 2 faced ass ******... friendly as a beagle in heat in my face... but a **** talking ***** ass racist ****** behind the monitor...

now.. if you're gonna reply with anything else to offend me and my people... then by that you are also accepting a private meet between you, I and mr. Carrasco. make a choice.

[4dmin]

DEAR PAUL (ADMIN)



insurance fraud = 98 % americans

Healthcare abuse = 90% + americans

Welfare abuse = 100% americans


as an american i'd figure you'd rather pay for "Pedro's" broken leg from falling off the roof of your house when he was replacing shingles rather than pay for the kids that were injured because some dumb **** emotional american felt like he had no friends and no one loved him so it felt like a great idea to take a 9mm to school and put led in his classmates.... this is happening like how often now? every other month?.


im sorry paul... but whats happening is inevitable... we will over populate you.. you will learn spanish as we have learned your english and you will be forced to deal with it... while your wife might not experience the brown ****.. your daughters definately will. i pray for it to be my kid who impregnates your daughter.. so i can send him back to mexico and truly give you a reason to hate the brown man, you are a 2 faced ass ******... friendly as a beagle in heat in my face... but a **** talking ***** ass racist ****** behind the monitor...

now.. if you're gonna reply with anything else to offend me and my people... then by that you are also accepting a private meet between you, I and mr. Carrasco. make a choice.

i'm so sorry i don't give a f*ck about your struggles or rants as an illegal. i love toolbag's like you and alex who get online and run your c*ck suckers about other people's wives b/c you guys are such up standing citizens. either way you don't get under my skin b/c i'm better then the both of you.

furthermore i do love you talking about me behind a monitor and your like accept a private meet.... how about you just ask alex where i live?