Legal Advice: "too fast for conditions"

**Frög** · 10-10-2007, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900

This thread will get locked soon enough, I'm sure.

If you need "advice" as to if you should pay $131 for a ticket you DESERVED which will net you no insurance, points, or any other problem, or spend time and effort to go to court to TRY and get off on a technicallity to a crime YOU ADMIT AND KNOW YOU'RE GUILTY OF and far worse.........you really need some help.

Seriously, you need some help.

I bet you'd be one of those that would sue the tobacco company for giving you lung cancer too, right????

Just man up and pay it. Be glad you didn't get the reckless driving AND speeding tickets you DESERVED.

lol ya i need help, counseling please.. haha

if my citation was improperly written, why pay it?

even if one is guilty, of any crime.. if he/she can get out of it, you try to.. DUH?!?! seriosuly... wow.. idk what to tell you.. i guess OJ should of just gone to jail for killing his wife, because he knew he was guilty..

Originally Posted by kayfuNk

btw, it's a porsche 996 carrera not a 911

please tell me your joking..

**Frög** · 10-10-2007, 12:25 PM

regardless, if this was anything else i would fight it.. but its nothing, so ill pay it next month..

**Jaimecbr900** · 10-10-2007, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by Frög

lol ya i need help, counseling please.. haha

You probably do.

if my citation was improperly written, why pay it?

Because it doesn't change the fact that you were driving like a tard, right? So why are you trying to take the chicken **** way out? Are you guilty or not? If so, then man up. Be glad you didn't get what you truly deserved and call it a day.

even if one is guilty, of any crime.. if he/she can get out of it, you try to.. DUH?!?! seriosuly... wow.. idk what to tell you.. i guess OJ should of just gone to jail for killing his wife, because he knew he was guilty..

This is the future leaders of our nation. No wonder people say we're going to hell in a handbasket.

Quit looking for excuses. You admitted you were speeding and driving reckless, right? You actually SHOULD HAVE gotten a ticket for that instead of the gay ass "too fast for conditions", right? Then why bother fighting it? What will you gain? If the ticket won't go against you with the insurance or points, the only thing you lose for driving reckless, speeding, and generally acting like an immature tard is $131......you're getting a bargain.

If you're that much of a cheap ass, then don't drive like a retard then. How's that for a "DUHHHHHH" moment????

**Nemesis** · 10-10-2007, 01:08 PM

LOL!!!!!

**fucksohc** · 10-10-2007, 01:14 PM

**** barrow... i live their... lolol

and i had this same ticket when i wrecked my crx...

they tried to give it to me when they wernt even their... lol but my lawyer told me that this ticket is unconstitutional if they dont write down the speed at which you were traveling and if you go to court and fight it it will be dropped faster then a fat kid holdin a stick of celery

**Jaimecbr900** · 10-10-2007, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by ****sohc

**** barrow... i live their... lolol

and i had this same ticket when i wrecked my crx...

they tried to give it to me when they wernt even their... lol but my lawyer told me that this ticket is unconstitutional if they dont write down the speed at which you were traveling and if you go to court and fight it it will be dropped faster then a fat kid holdin a stick of celery

Wow!!!!!! You've never read the actual Constitution of the U.S., have you?

**fucksohc** · 10-10-2007, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900

Wow!!!!!! You've never read the actual Constitution of the U.S., have you?

lol spelling isnt my strong point...

but if he goes to court it will get dropped bec my lawyer said they arnt suppost to write that ticket anymore...

**Nemesis** · 10-10-2007, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by ****sohc

lol spelling isnt my strong point...

but if he goes to court it will get dropped bec my lawyer said they arnt suppost to write that ticket anymore...

LOL Thats not what he was implying.

**fucksohc** · 10-10-2007, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by Nemesis

LOL Thats not what he was implying.

ummm... then why did he highlight unconstitutional? lol

**Jaimecbr900** · 10-10-2007, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by Nemesis

LOL Thats not what he was implying.

It's like watching some drunk fall down. You wanna help them, but it's so damn funny to watch that you let them bust their butt anyway......

Nemesis is right. It has nothing to do with spelling and everything to do with being wrong. I would like to know the name of the lawyer who gave the "unconstitutionally" wrong advice so that I can NEVER use him/her if I ever get a "too fast for conditions" ticket that I need to waste my time to fight in court.....

**fucksohc** · 10-10-2007, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900

It's like watching some drunk fall down. You wanna help them, but it's so damn funny to watch that you let them bust their butt anyway......

Nemesis is right. It has nothing to do with spelling and everything to do with being wrong. I would like to know the name of the lawyer who gave the "unconstitutionally" wrong advice so that I can NEVER use him/her if I ever get a "too fast for conditions" ticket that I need to waste my time to fight in court.....

lol okay... his names Bob Rendoni... when i went to court it was dropped... lol the judge even said that they arnt suppost to write this ticket...

**SixSquared** · 10-10-2007, 01:30 PM

I'm not gonna read all the posts in this thread, which are probably incorrect.

Speaking as someone who has had a few "too fast for conditions" tickets, let me tell you a FEW things.

1 - You're lucky as **** that the cop didn't write you anything worse than too fast for conditions... I mean LUCKY.

2 - How ballsy and STUPID of you.... you went into a courtroom and told a judge that the ticket was invalid. PS - NEVER do that. Judges know the law a tiny bit better than you do.. hence the reason you are standing in front of them. Judges tend to be a bit egomaniacal, and nothing pisses them off more than a kid coming in and telling THEM what the definition of valid or invalid is.

3 - Ultimately, it is up to the JUDGE, not you, the officer, or the DA, how ****ty your day is. Don't believe me? I went into court in Statesboro to see a judge about a failure to appear ticket. Turns out my license had been suspended. I didn't know that. The who wrote me the original ticket wasn't present. Stupidly, I asked the judge "So I'm off the hook because he's not here, right?". The judge gets this look and tells me to get out of his court. But before I leave, he asks how I got there that morning. I shrugged and said "I drove..." and he tells me to leave, obviously pissed at something.

A few weeks later I got a ticket in the mail from the judge himself. Apparently when I said "I drove", I had admitted to driving on a suspended license. He wrote me a ticket and dragged me right back into that courtroom. I was hella apologetic for anything I might have said to offend him, apologized for everything from the minute I was born until that moment, told him I never meant to disrespect him or his court, yadda yadda yadda.... he dismissed the ticket and told me I hoped I had learned my lesson.

All because I said "So I'm off the hook because the cop isn't here, right?".... Judges can and will **** up your day.

3 - QUIT DRIVING LIKE A ****ING ASSHOLE.

4 - Too Fast For Conditions is not a points offense... Go pay your ticket, thank the HELL outta that cop, and continue on your merry way.

5 - Have I mentioned that you're lucky as hell?

**BuBBa DRiFT** · 10-10-2007, 01:30 PM

you have a porsche but have a hard time paying a 130 dollar ticket? emphasize please.

**fucksohc** · 10-10-2007, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by I ♥ My S13

you have a porsche but have a hard time paying a 130 dollar ticket? emphasize please.

lol i was havin the same thought...

**Jaimecbr900** · 10-10-2007, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by ****sohc

ummm... then why did he highlight unconstitutional? lol

Barrow County school's aint all they's cracked up to be 'nymore, huh?????

I'll chew it up and spit it out for ya then:

Here is the Constitution of the U.S.:

http://www.usconstitution.net/const.txt

Find in there where it details that a "too fast for conditions" ticket MUST HAVE the speed on it in order to be enforceable.

*Final Jeopardy music begins*

**quickdodge®** · 10-10-2007, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by xPhantomSilviax

I'm not gonna read all the posts in this thread, which are probably incorrect.

Speaking as someone who has had a few "too fast for conditions" tickets, let me tell you a FEW things.

1 - You're lucky as **** that the cop didn't write you anything worse than too fast for conditions... I mean LUCKY.

2 - How ballsy and STUPID of you.... you went into a courtroom and told a judge that the ticket was invalid. PS - NEVER do that. Judges know the law a tiny bit better than you do.. hence the reason you are standing in front of them. Judges tend to be a bit egomaniacal, and nothing pisses them off more than a kid coming in and telling THEM what the definition of valid or invalid is.

3 - Ultimately, it is up to the JUDGE, not you, the officer, or the DA, how ****ty your day is. Don't believe me? I went into court in Statesboro to see a judge about a failure to appear ticket. Turns out my license had been suspended. I didn't know that. The who wrote me the original ticket wasn't present. Stupidly, I asked the judge "So I'm off the hook because he's not here, right?". The judge gets this look and tells me to get out of his court. But before I leave, he asks how I got there that morning. I shrugged and said "I drove..." and he tells me to leave, obviously pissed at something.

A few weeks later I got a ticket in the mail from the judge himself. Apparently when I said "I drove", I had admitted to driving on a suspended license. He wrote me a ticket and dragged me right back into that courtroom. I was hella apologetic for anything I might have said to offend him, apologized for everything from the minute I was born until that moment, told him I never meant to disrespect him or his court, yadda yadda yadda.... he dismissed the ticket and told me I hoped I had learned my lesson.

All because I said "So I'm off the hook because the cop isn't here, right?".... Judges can and will **** up your day.

3 - QUIT DRIVING LIKE A ****ING ASSHOLE.

4 - Too Fast For Conditions is not a points offense... Go pay your ticket, thank the HELL outta that cop, and continue on your merry way.

5 - Have I mentioned that you're lucky as hell?

STICKY THIS, MODS! PLEASE!!!

Later, QD.

**Doppelgänger** · 10-10-2007, 01:33 PM

Stupidity is strong in this thread, and it's not just the O.P.

BTW, both of your "lawyers" are very wrong, but that's the kind of lawyer you get in Barrow Co.

Also, "Too fast for conditions" is defined as A driver is considered too fast if the traction conditions do not warrant the speed, they are pushing other drivers, the car goes out of balance on curves and corners, or the vision is not sufficient to make decisions with the available amount of information for the individual's level of attention dedicated to the task.

Note the "they are pushing other drivers". On 316 there is no posted minimum.... so if someone is not going the soeed limit, they are not breaking laws. Also for those of you who are going to say "well it is impeding traffic for slower drivers to be in the left lane". WRONG. The only time is it LEGAL TO PASS when you can WITHOUT EXCEEDING THE SPEED LIMIT.

**quickdodge®** · 10-10-2007, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by I ♥ My S13

emphasize please.

How do you figure that you're worth anything to ask someone to give YOU an explanation? Later, QD.

**speedminded** · 10-10-2007, 01:40 PM

Too fast for conditions?! What was the weather like? Raining? I've never heard of getting a too fast for conditions outside of inclement weather...

**Jaimecbr900** · 10-10-2007, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by speedminded

Too fast for conditions?! What was the weather like? Raining? I've never heard of getting a too fast for conditions outside of inclement weather...

Jason, its a BS ticket that officers give when they are giving someone a BIG break and not ticketing them for speeding or doing something like that.

This probably went down a lot like the OP posted. He was driving like a moron, someone got pissed and called 911 on him, so they had someone waiting on him up ahead. The cop cut him some slack, yet this genius is still trying to weasel out of by trying to use a technicality.

As I said, I would damn sure take the BS ticket and shut my damn mouth. It would cost me a hellva lot more than $131 on my insurance alone if I got even a 10 over ticket. I'm sure it would cost him a lot more than that since he's not even old enough to drink and probably still on mom and dad's insurance.

**quickdodge®** · 10-10-2007, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by speedminded

Too fast for conditions?! What was the weather like? Raining? I've never heard of getting a too fast for conditions outside of inclement weather...

Yessir. the OP stated that he was driving the way he was in the midst of quite a few cars. This would cause a "too fast for conditions" event. Later, QD.

**SixSquared** · 10-10-2007, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by speedminded

Too fast for conditions?! What was the weather like? Raining? I've never heard of getting a too fast for conditions outside of inclement weather...

It's possible... cops write TFFC when they either don't want to do all the paperwork of a speeding ticket or are feeling especially benevolent. I've gotten TFFC on a perfectly sunny day with zero traffic. Basically the state wants your money but doesn't wanna deal with the time involved to take you to court. Pretty easy peasy ticket.

**Frög** · 10-10-2007, 01:53 PM

ok i know im lucky as hell.. i love cops! and i just wanted to hug him.. which i why i didnt plead not guilty. but if the ticket can just be droped, then why not? I can afford a $131 ticket.. i just didnt want to pay it if i didnt have to.. But as i said, im going to go next month and pay for it..

**quickdodge®** · 10-10-2007, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by xPhantomSilviax

It's possible... cops write TFFC when they either don't want to do all the paperwork of a speeding ticket or are feeling especially benevolent. I've gotten TFFC on a perfectly sunny day with zero traffic. Basically the state wants your money but doesn't wanna deal with the time involved to take you to court. Pretty easy peasy ticket.

Wow. Were you an original member of the Pretenders? Later, QD.

**Frög** · 10-10-2007, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by Frög

well i was also sharing this wonderful story with yall.. for the most part, ive delt with awesome cops.. though sometimes they piss me off how they abuse their powers.. ia has alot of threads with negative feedback on police enforcement.. so here is one with positive feedback.. i really dont care about the ticket, its just that if it really is invalid, why pay it?

that is all..

**Nemesis** · 10-10-2007, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by Frög

ok i know im lucky as hell.. i love cops! and i just wanted to hug him.. which i why i didnt plead not guilty. but if the ticket can just be droped, then why not? I can afford a $131 ticket.. i just didnt want to pay it if i didnt have to.. But as i said, im going to go next month and pay for it..

What did you plea at your arraignment?

**Frög** · 10-10-2007, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by Nemesis

What did you plea at your arraignment?

nothing, i asked for a continuance and they rescheduled me.. a month later..

**speedminded** · 10-10-2007, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by Frög

nothing, i asked for a continuance and they rescheduled me.. a month later..

at the advice of the lawyer i'm sure

What's the code on the ticket? should be 40-x-x

**Kyle** · 10-10-2007, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by theprofiteer

If you know your guilty do not fight it.

That's stupid. The legal system entitles us to fight to prove our own innocence, even if we are guilty. It's our right. Does he deserve to pay the ticket? yes. If he can get out of it should he? That's up to him. I would pay it, but you can't blame someone if they want to get out of it.

**Frög** · 10-10-2007, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by speedminded

at the advice of the lawyer i'm sure

What's the code on the ticket? should be 40-x-x

40-60-180

Originally Posted by Kyle

That's stupid. The legal system entitles us to fight to prove our own innocence, even if we are guilty. It's our right. Does he deserve to pay the ticket? yes. If he can get out of it should he? That's up to him. I would pay it, but you can't blame someone if they want to get out of it.

couldnt say it better myself.. if i was that cheap and didnt want to pay $131, its my time that I waiste trying to fight it. if i thought it is worth it, whats wrong with that?

but im not.. im paying it.. so chill out ppl..

**speedminded** · 10-10-2007, 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by Frög

40-60-180

umm, there's only 16 chapters under title 40 so there can't possibly be a 40-60-180.

Note: 40-6-180 is speeding.

**Frög** · 10-10-2007, 03:37 PM

oops typo, its 40-6-180.. well thats what is on my ticket..

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