Nick Hogan crashes tha supra like we did not see this coming

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Originally Posted by BABY J

Can he run at a track when it's closed? No.

Being able to have any car he wants matters zero.

The simple fact is this - he is a 17 year old kid who simply has bigger toys. This EXACT scenario happens everyday and we do not hear about it. When Chad went down no1 said, "well, it's okay Chad bc you don't have access to tracks when you want and can't buy any car you want."

People are making a big deal about it b/c he is semi-famous. PERIOD. People are simply star-struck.

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You are missing my point entirely, put your guard down for a second and listen. Of course he doesnt have access to tracks when they are closed, thanks for pointing out the obvious. What I am trying to say is, most of the time people street race/drive crazy on the street/speed because they have no way of getting it out of their system at a track. So be it because they dont have the money nor are they close to one. However Nick Hogan, can go to almost any track he pleases with his car and have his "fun" and get his crazyiness out in a safe environment where he will hurt nobody but himself. Why the hell are you bringing Chad into this? He has nothing to do with this conversation, and his wreck was partially due to a mechanical failure on his car (if I read correctly from a while back). So if Nick Hogans throttle got stuck, then fine, he has an excuse. Its already been stated a million times already he was speeding, but we dont know why and for what reason. Either way, it does matter that he is able to have any car he wants. When people work for what they have, they respect it, and they respect the power that comes with it.

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Originally Posted by BABY J

Thank you for helping to prove my point so perfectly that you are ...

1) an ass and an idiot

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2) play one on the internet

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why? b/c my opinion of a 17 yr old kid, who is known to act stupid has acted stupid yet again and put himself and a friend in the hospital, is a tool for doing so?

get a clue man, opinions are like assholes, we all have 'em....i mean really....what are you shooting for by being on this kids side? drifting lessons?

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Originally Posted by Nemesis

You are missing my point entirely, put your guard down for a second and listen. Of course he doesnt have access to tracks when they are closed, thanks for pointing out the obvious. What I am trying to say is, most of the time people street race/drive crazy on the street/speed because they have no way of getting it out of their system at a track. So be it because they dont have the money nor are they close to one. However Nick Hogan, can go to almost any track he pleases with his car and have his "fun" and get his crazyiness out in a safe environment where he will hurt nobody but himself. Why the hell are you bringing Chad into this? He has nothing to do with this conversation, and his wreck was partially due to a mechanical failure on his car (if I read correctly from a while back). So if Nick Hogans throttle got stuck, then fine, he has an excuse. Its already been stated a million times already he was speeding, but we dont know why and for what reason. Either way, it does matter that he is able to have any car he wants. When people work for what they have, they respect it, and they respect the power that comes with it.

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Well, I'm personally glad the topic has moved to why and for what reason rather than "I hope this rich bitch and his friend die for being rich and tool bags and rich and a wrastler and especially for driving a yellow car.............."

That's a little more on topic.

I think he did it because he has access to do it. Like baby J said, bigger toys. If all he had a a Mongoose, I'm sure he'd do some dumb shit on that, too.

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Originally Posted by Tracy

Well, I'm personally glad the topic has moved to why and for what reason rather than "I hope this rich bitch and his friend die for being rich and tool bags and rich and a wrastler and especially for driving a yellow car.............."

That's a little more on topic.

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shame on you for disagreeing with that....banana boats ftl

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Originally Posted by keevo54

Nicks probably great in real life. Nice, friendly, etc.. but he truly is a dipshit with no care for other people on the road nor the cars he drives.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...071hogan1.html

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^^ Think all you nick fans need to read this . I was going to post this myself but he beat me to it . 40+ over in a construction zone with guys working in the area :doh:.

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Originally Posted by Nemesis

You are missing my point entirely, put your guard down for a second and listen. Of course he doesnt have access to tracks when they are closed, thanks for pointing out the obvious. What I am trying to say is, most of the time people street race/drive crazy on the street/speed because they have no way of getting it out of their system at a track.

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:no: You KNOW better. How many times have we raced/made pulls ON THE WAY to the track or ON THE WAY BACK from the track. BE FOR REAL. Furthermore, "getting it out of your system" is not a requirement, and you are still breaking the law.

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Originally Posted by Nemesis

So be it because they dont have the money nor are they close to one. However Nick Hogan, can go to almost any track he pleases with his car and have his "fun" and get his crazyiness out in a safe environment where he will hurt nobody but himself.

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So I get it - you (and every1) ONLY speed bc you are "getting it out" of yoru systems? BULL! Either you are late, in a hurry, or just wanna feel the power of the car... or showoff to a friend in the passenger seat.

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Originally Posted by Nemesis

Why the hell are you bringing Chad into this? He has nothing to do with this conversation, and his wreck was partially due to a mechanical failure on his car (if I read correctly from a while back). So if Nick Hogans throttle got stuck, then fine, he has an excuse. Its already been stated a million times already he was speeding, but we dont know why and for what reason. Either way, it does matter that he is able to have any car he wants. When people work for what they have, they respect it, and they respect the power that comes with it.

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To prove the point that financial situation, access to tracks has nothing to do w/ this. Car guys will be car guys - and sadly, NOT always on a track. And you are included, so why try to single him out and make it seem "worse" for him bc he has more cash?

this thread just proves the stupidity of some people on import atlanta

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Originally Posted by BABY J

:no: You KNOW better. How many times have we raced/made pulls ON THE WAY to the track or ON THE WAY BACK from the track. BE FOR REAL. Furthermore, "getting it out of your system" is not a requirement, and you are still breaking the law.



So I get it - you (and every1) ONLY speed bc you are "getting it out" of yoru systems? BULL! Either you are late, in a hurry, or just wanna feel the power of the car... or showoff to a friend in the passenger seat.



To prove the point that financial situation, access to tracks has nothing to do w/ this. Car guys will be car guys - and sadly, NOT always on a track. And you are included, so why try to single him out and make it seem "worse" for him bc he has more cash?

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wow :devil:

I suspect that maybe he won't respond to this one. He didn't to mine. :) Don't get your blood pressure up, George. RELAX. LET YOUR GUARD DOWN.

You know what, EVERY damm one of you that are putting him down for speeding are one fat lot of hypocrites.

There isn't a single one of us in here that hasn't gotten into a fast car with a friend and wanted to show off what it would do. Take off from a light, run up to about 80 and let off to show the power. There isn't a single person in here that can say they haven't sped. There isn't a single person in here that can say they wouldn't buy the same exact things that Nick has access too if they had the money. So hop off the high horses now.

99% of you are full of shit, jealous and needed something to disagree with today. So pull your diapers up and get back to work.

well frist the viper then the viper again.... now the supra what next??? note to-self never give a 17 y/o kid high hp car

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Originally Posted by Glides

You know what, EVERY damm one of you that are putting him down for speeding are one fat lot of hypocrites.

There isn't a single one of us in here that hasn't gotten into a fast car with a friend and wanted to show off what it would do. Take off from a light, run up to about 80 and let off to show the power. There isn't a single person in here that can say they haven't sped. There isn't a single person in here that can say they wouldn't buy the same exact things that Nick has access too if they had the money. So hop off the high horses now.

99% of you are full of shit, jealous and needed something to disagree with today. So pull your diapers up and get back to work.

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What's worse - is people IN THIS THREAD speed in a slow car - LOL

I think this is fun if we can keep the personal name calling out of it. Then it can just be a fun debate :D

tracy did you see him wreck the viper?

http://jalopnik.com/photogallery/NickHoganSupra/2453777


speeding? shit, more like warp speed...then wrapped around a tree

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Originally Posted by BABY J

What's worse - is people IN THIS THREAD speed in a slow car - LOL

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And THAT my friend, is why they are hating. Cause the only looks their slowed up, busted ass car gets on the freeway is from tow truck drivers trying to find out if it's safe to tow it to the Junkyard.

Thats the entire reason behind the hate. :goodjob:

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Originally Posted by Glides

And THAT my friend, is why they are hating. Cause the only looks their slowed up, busted ass car gets on the freeway is from tow truck drivers trying to find out if it's safe to tow it to the Junkyard.

Thats the entire reason behind the hate. :goodjob:

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when he said slow car i believe he meant you

HOLY SHIT!!! is he ok?

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Originally Posted by callmetree19

HOLY SHIT!!! is he ok?

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no he died, be respectful

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Originally Posted by MR.org

http://jalopnik.com/photogallery/NickHoganSupra/2453777


speeding? shit, more like warp speed...then wrapped around a tree

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Shit'll buff out. I mean look, the headlights prolly still work.:D

- yeah, it backed into the tree pretty good it looks. But a lot of damage is from them cutting 'em outta the car.

honestly i hope for a speedy recovery for the passenger cause according to what ive been reading on supraforums nick is out of the hospital chilling at home while the passenger is still fighting for his life in the hospital

Its really simple:

pARENTAL RESPONSIBILITY.

I dont blame Nick HOgan, hes a child, hes not an adult. I blame his mother an father for letting him have access to a SUPRA at 17 years old.

Nick Hogan is just like every other young kid in america today, except he has access to millions of dollars. So what, thats not his PROBLEM, thats a blessing if used correctly. His fathers fame has prob allowed him to advance his own carreer much faster than the average person. Thats not something to be ashamed of.

When i was growing up, my dad didnt give me the keys to his sports car, he gave me the keys to a 1985 AUTOMATIC Honda Prelude with 220k.

Now had nick been driving a slower car, this prob still would have happened, because as Baby J said, car guys will be car guys, boys will be boys.

But somehow the acceleration factor of a 90hp car versus a 700whp supra is prob nowhere near the same.

A 17 year old kid has no business driving anything but a KIA or FORD TAURUS or a HONDA ACCORD.

I think its very wrong to put a car of that power in the hands of a child, regardless if he is a pro drifter or not.

I hope they learn from this an Nick is ok

I'm pretty sure he is not just "chillin" - but yeah news says he is out. I'd bet that as soon as he's able he will be at the hospital as well showing support.

But wait, he's a tool - so he prolly won't.

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Originally Posted by MR.org

when he said slow car i believe he meant you

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Lol now it's time to bag on my car. Is that the best you can do? Sad sad.

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Originally Posted by Tracy

wow :devil:

I suspect that maybe he won't respond to this one. He didn't to mine. :) Don't get your blood pressure up, George. RELAX. LET YOUR GUARD DOWN.

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I respond when I feel like responding, I am working right now actually. Just waiting for a response on a script I just finished coding. :)

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Originally Posted by BABY J

:no: You KNOW better. How many times have we raced/made pulls ON THE WAY to the track or ON THE WAY BACK from the track. BE FOR REAL. Furthermore, "getting it out of your system" is not a requirement, and you are still breaking the law.

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We have never made or raced on the way back from a track? At least from what I can remember, we have done things before , but that was not on a public road with traffic.

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Originally Posted by BABY J

So I get it - you (and every1) ONLY speed bc you are "getting it out" of yoru systems? BULL! Either you are late, in a hurry, or just wanna feel the power of the car... or showoff to a friend in the passenger seat.

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Actually that is how I feel. When I come back from a track event anywhere like Little Tale or Commerce or Reynolds, I dont feel the need to speed or show off for a few months! lol

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Originally Posted by BABY J

To prove the point that financial situation, access to tracks has nothing to do w/ this. Car guys will be car guys - and sadly, NOT always on a track. And you are included, so why try to single him out and make it seem "worse" for him bc he has more cash?

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Car guys will be car guys, but if he had to bust his ass to earn his shit, he probably wouldnt be so wreckless with it.

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Originally Posted by Glides

Lol now it's time to bag on my car. Is that the best you can do? Sad sad.

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yes, thats the best i have, just found it ironic to see you talking about people having slow cars....talk about calling the kettle black

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Originally Posted by Nemesis

Car guys will be car guys, but if he had to bust his ass to earn his shit, he probably wouldnt be so wreckless with it.

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^^ very true statement. its hard to appreciate something and show the utmost respect for it, when its been handed to you... anyone can understand that. if you spent all your hard earned money, blood, sweat, and tears on that supra, you would not be as reckless or irresponsible with it.

but then again, it only takes a split second of a mistake to create an accident like that in such a powerful car. even a 60 year old could have done it... look at all the exotics that people wreck every year...

regardless... the probability of it happening to a younger guy is much higher since he has about 100 times the testosterone and doesn't know how to completely control it.

I don't agree with what people are saying. Age makes no difference here, just because someone is young shouldn't mean they can't drive nice cars. Hell I was 16 driving 700hp vipers, and tons of fast cars. Did I wreck one, no. I had spent alot of time up to then racing karts and show room stock.

So don't assume that every young kid is an idiot or can't drive, that simply isn't true.

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Originally Posted by TopSpeedInc

I don't agree with what people are saying. Age makes no difference here, just because someone is young shouldn't mean they can't drive nice cars. Hell I was 16 driving 700hp vipers, and tons of fast cars. Did I wreck one, no. I had spent alot of time up to then racing carts and show room stock.

So don't assume that every young kid is an idiot or can't drive, that simply isn't true.

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its not always a question of skill, but more of controlling certain urges.. being responsible with that type of power.

but again, even adults and seniors make similar mistakes.

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Originally Posted by TopSpeedInc

I don't agree with what people are saying. Age makes no difference here, just because someone is young shouldn't mean they can't drive nice cars. Hell I was 16 driving 700hp vipers, and tons of fast cars. Did I wreck one, no. I had spent alot of time up to then racing karts and show room stock.

So don't assume that every young kid is an idiot or can't drive, that simply isn't true.

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while i understand what you are saying, i still think that the AVERAGE SUB 20 year old kid is not able to respect or handle a car of that magnitude.

hell im 26, and i still get into trouble :yes:

A young person doesnt have the EXPERIENCE or the YEARS OF DRIVING or the AWARENESS IMO

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Originally Posted by Nemesis

We have never made or raced on the way back from a track? At least from what I can remember, we have done things before , but that was not on a public road with traffic.

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So you have never sped on a public road? You have never been out cruising and goosed it for one of your friends on a public street? Amazing.:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Nemesis

Actually that is how I feel. When I come back from a track event anywhere like Little Tale or Commerce or Reynolds, I dont feel the need to speed or show off for a few months! lol

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Feeling the need is 1 thing. But DOING it, even for a split second is another. I can think of at least one time that you DID make pulls on the street in the Cougar.

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Originally Posted by Nemesis

Car guys will be car guys, but if he had to bust his ass to earn his shit, he probably wouldnt be so wreckless with it.

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Bull. I busted my ass to build my busted ass Notchbak in high school and I busted it against the curb b/c of bas choices. You build it to beat on it - PERIOD. And it's all fun and games until you lose control. 1 second it's fun, and 5 seconds later you're backed into a palm tree. It only registers as a "bad idea" if you get busted/ticketed/crash.

You can pretend that all of this is not the case - but you know it is.

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Originally Posted by TopSpeedInc

I don't agree with what people are saying. Age makes no difference here, just because someone is young shouldn't mean they can't drive nice cars. Hell I was 16 driving 700hp vipers, and tons of fast cars. Did I wreck one, no. I had spent alot of time up to then racing karts and show room stock.

So don't assume that every young kid is an idiot or can't drive, that simply isn't true.

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Thats all good and all but think about this guys track record,

wrecked lambo

wrecked viper

blew the green supra motor

and now wrecked yellow supra

somewhere in there someone "his parents" should have said this type of car is not for him at his age IMO

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Originally Posted by Tank

somewhere in there someone "his parents" should have said this type of car is not for him at his age IMO

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nah, the hulkster is too busy trying to keep a clamp on brookes pussy

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Originally Posted by MR.org

yes, thats the best i have, just found it ironic to see you talking about people having slow cars....talk about calling the kettle black

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You think your GTO can handle it from a dead stop? Careful, you might ding daddys money and then where would you be?

Really love to hear his side of the story .

So - you blow a Civic motor and your parents say "this kind of car is not good for him?" LOL. He blew a motor up in a car - his "toys" are just bigger than ours. Plus, as long as I see race teams do it on national TV, if I do it I won't feel so bad (if I took as many precautions as I could) if I blow one. And YOU have blown up enuff shit too Tank - it happens, it's part of the game.

The Lambo - if he didn't stop when he heard something, then he was pretty careless IMO - to each his own.

And wrecking the yellow Supra, no argument there - MAJOR mistake.

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Originally Posted by Tank

Thats all good and all but think about this guys track record,

wrecked lambo

wrecked viper

blew the green supra motor

and now wrecked yellow supra

somewhere in there someone "his parents" should have said this type of car is not for him at his age IMO

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True

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Originally Posted by Nemesis

I respond when I feel like responding, I am working right now actually. Just waiting for a response on a script I just finished coding. :)

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Did you stomp your feet when you typed that by any chance? LOL.

You just didn't feel like responding to my last post 5 pages ago? That's cool. I understand. Everyone likes to pick the girl last in kick ball :D

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Originally Posted by Tank

Thats all good and all but think about this guys track record,

wrecked lambo

wrecked viper

blew the green supra motor

and now wrecked yellow supra

somewhere in there someone "his parents" should have said this type of car is not for him at his age IMO

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^^^ Kid has quite a way with high horse power cars huh ... :rolleyes: . Should be a very clear sign to him and his parents to change his hobby ie cars .

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Originally Posted by B18c-rex

Really love to hear his side of the story .

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his side....

yo.. look at that hottie... looks over... guns it WOT.. 40-100 in a blink of an eye... wwhhoooooshhhh psshhhttt ohhhhhh shiiiiittttttttttt BANG, boom, pow! fuuuuuck. daddy's gonna kill me!

well thats my version lol.. i do hope nobody is seriously hurt though... but go figure... it was inevitable.

^^^^ LMAO ... hahahahha reps if i can .