Do you think it is ok to use the word *****.

[Dirty Octopus™]

dumbass.. Killer ignore his dumbass.

nah he cool.
he's just ignorant...

he's bout ignorant as a....







































































n¡gger!

[SLOWLYbtngU]

They fought to be considered equals and not n i g g e r s as they were referred to during that time period.....Hence the fight that I mentioned......

and any variation of the word, however it is intended, is not right. Point Blank....

they were referred to as more than just *******. they had many other terms that were thrown at them...

[MrsDirtyOc™]

I use it all the time.. Don't care if its to a white/black/hispanic/asian friend. to me, its just a word, just like "dude", "fool", "bro", ect.. those that see it as racist are stupid. And im talking about "N!gga", now if someone says FUCK YOU N!GG"ER" thats another story..

it pains me to say this but i agree with this guy

[Shawna]

Gotta love when people play the race card. That sucks babe, and I am sorry you had to go through that.

It was an experience that I will never forget but Ive had to tell myself that not all ppl are like that


I grew up in a town and went to a hs that from the time it was opened til I graduated (12yrs) there were only 10 black people that came through...we didnt ever have an issue with white or black no one was called names and if someone did say something we all said something to them

[tony]

Let's say that we are all at the V and I am holding a convo with my friend and you hear me say "*****" and then I turn to you and as polite as can be I introduce myself and ask about your car. Are you going to tell me at that point that I cant use that word around you? Or would you ignore the fact that you overheard me and answer my question because I have in no way disrespected you directly?

Thats the thing, the word is indirectly offensive. But I wont say much because its amusing to watch people defend the use of a racial slur.

[Maniaç]

it pains me to say this but i agree with this guy

Who the fuck are you? To say, it "pains" me, the hell have i done?

[MrsDirtyOc™]

soooo no one has any thoughts on Michael Vick?......ooookkkk

[Dirty Octopus™]

Who the fuck are you? To say, it "pains" me, the hell have i done?

dood....
how tha fuck you get a sig?!!?!?!?

[MrsDirtyOc™]

Who the fuck are you? To say, it "pains" me, the hell have i done?

[Shawna]

I dont like the word but if you want to use it then fine by me that's your choice not mine I can't stop the world from saying what they want to but we are each entitled to our opinions

[Dirty Octopus™]

soooo no one has any thoughts on Michael Vick?......ooookkkk

i think Terry Fator should be our new Quarterback

[Maniaç]

dood....
how tha fuck you get a sig?!!?!?!?

When you're not black, there is so many things you can do. Sucks for you man.... LOL!

[Maniaç]

BUT WHATEVA N!GGAS, IM OUT THIS THREAD.... REEKS OF GHETTONESS AND SHIT!



PEACE!

[SLOWLYbtngU]

I'd ignore you because you were having a conversation between someone else, which at that point didn't involve me. I wouldn't even bring it up because of the dialect you used it in wasn't offensive, henceforth not needed a response about it

so you would still talk to me right?

and if by chance i used it later on down the line with or around you, you would tell me you dont like it correct?

but after that...what? what if i dont stop? you can leave me be and not continue to talk to me but it didnt solve anything. That is probably the main reason I dont care. I would rather have people be real to my face than to say shit behind my back. Just like I would rather have someone be themselves in front of me (vocab included) than to have them restrain themselves around me.

[MrsDirtyOc™]

When you're not black, there is so many things you can do. Sucks for you man.... LOL!

[Dirty Octopus™]

When you're not black, there is so many things you can do. Sucks for you man.... LOL!

F you Spix!

dammit man...
so much injustice.

i gotta start an IA Civil Rights Movement and shit if i wanna get anywhere important on the Internet

"Oh my God, can't believe what I saw
As I turned on the TV this evening
I was disgusted by all the injustice
All the injustice"

- The Janet Jackson

[blackshine007]

so you would still talk to me right?

and if by chance i used it later on down the line with or around you, you would tell me you dont like it correct?

but after that...what? what if i dont stop? you can leave me be and not continue to talk to me but it didnt solve anything. That is probably the main reason I dont care. I would rather have people be real to my face than to say shit behind my back. Just like I would rather have someone be themselves in front of me (vocab included) than to have them restrain themselves around me.

At that point, I won't argue with you. I'm just gonna excuse myself from your conversation. And leave it at that.

[SLOWLYbtngU]

Thats the thing, the word is indirectly offensive. But I wont say much because its amusing to watch people defend the use of a racial slur.

I do not defend the word ***** I defend all and every terminology that is constituted as being part of the English vernacular. I refuse to limit my vocabulary because someone else finds it offensive. Life is not about complying to what others want or need, it is about living and for once not having to conform to what society sees as right and wrong. Just like Voltaire said "I may not agree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

edit for correct quote -I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
--Voltaire

[BobbyFresco]

they were referred to as more than just *******. they had many other terms that were thrown at them...

I know that...What I am saying is that people died, went through hell and back , and other shit that we will never be able to imagine, in order to be respected and be treated as equals.....

[Dirty Octopus™]

I do not defend the word ***** I defend all and every terminology that is constituted as being part of the English vernacular. I refuse to limit my vocabulary because someone else finds it offensive. Life is not about complying to what others want or need, it is about living and for once not having to conform to what society sees as right and wrong. Just like Voltaire said "I may not agree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

edit for correct quote -I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
--Voltaire

damn...
Voltaire said that?

and all this time i was thinking that came to me in my sleep

[81911SC]

I think so. Not to offend anyone of course but to me it's just another word people don't like. Hell, get over it.

[tony]

I do not defend the word ***** I defend all and every terminology that is constituted as being part of the English vernacular. I refuse to limit my vocabulary because someone else finds it offensive. Life is not about complying to what others want or need, it is about living and for once not having to conform to what society sees as right and wrong. Just like Voltaire said "I may not agree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

edit for correct quote -I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
--Voltaire

You quote a man who thought democracy would never work because in general, people are ignorant. Interesting

I said nothing about having the right to say what they will but I do think people should have a social responsibility of theirself to know right from wrong.. and what is plain ignorant.

[SLOWLYbtngU]

I know that...What I am saying is that people died, went through hell and back , and other shit that we will never be able to imagine, in order to be respected and be treated as equals.....

But see that is something that not many know or care about. You know waht was the saddest day for me?? I was sitting in my Civil Rights class at GSU and there was a scheduled walk out for all the latinos at a certain time, the time came and I got up to leave and it was in the middle of an exam and my professor nodded at me and smiled. You know what I hear as I am walking out? "Fucking **** thinks this is the civil rights era." Do you have any idea how outraged I was that I was the only latina in this class full of black kids and yet NOT ONE of them had the appreciation for what their ancestors did for them like I did? My professor stood up and yelled at the class and forced them to come and march with me because she couldnt believe that these kids had/have no appreciation for their history.

In all honesty if it really did bother you that I use the word *****, I would try my hardest to not use it around you in particular but I would also want you to know that if it slipped out one day around you that I in no way, shape, or form am using it to insult you or any black person in anyway.

[BobbyFresco]

If you don't respect yourself then how the fuck do you expect others to respect you.....

[Dirty Octopus™]

If you don't respect yourself then how the fuck do you expect others to respect you.....

dude...
im not the one goin' out there fuckin' any and everything.
besides... if i did. id make sure to use a connie

So YEAH i have PLENTEE respek for myself!

[BobbyFresco]

But see that is something that not many know or care about. You know waht was the saddest day for me?? I was sitting in my Civil Rights class at GSU and there was a scheduled walk out for all the latinos at a certain time, the time came and I got up to leave and it was in the middle of an exam and my professor nodded at me and smiled. You know what I hear as I am walking out? "Fucking **** thinks this is the civil rights era." Do you have any idea how outraged I was that I was the only latina in this class full of black kids and yet NOT ONE of them had the appreciation for what their ancestors did for them like I did? My professor stood up and yelled at the class and forced them to come and march with me because she couldnt believe that these kids had/have no appreciation for their history.

In all honesty if it really did bother you that I use the word *****, I would try my hardest to not use it around you in particular but I would also want you to know that if it slipped out one day around you that I in no way, shape, or form am using it to insult you or any black person in anyway.

I agree with you.

Thats the exact reason why some black people find it ok to use the word like it's nothing....They do not know their history or the sacrifices people before them have made so that we are able to live the lives that we do now.....No self respect or pride........I do not know of any self respecting black person that uses the n word or any variation, to refer to themselves or others as.....

[SLOWLYbtngU]

You quote a man who thought democracy would never work because in general, people are ignorant. Interesting

I said nothing about having the right to say what they will but I do think people should have a social responsibility of theirself to know right from wrong.. and what is plain ignorant.

I think you meant "themselves," and yes I quote him not for who he was but because that is definately worth quoting.

What is plain ignorant=niggerish.

Look I am not arguing with you in particular but what I am arguing is the fact that people are entitled to say what they please when they please. I have been spit in the face and called all kinds of creative things, and yet I hold no grudge because it doesnt phase me. People around me can insult me in so many different ways but at the end of the day it is me that has to come to the realization that they are wrong. Plain and simple. No matter how long people struggle to get rid of this word, it isnt going anywhere.

I commend those that try to educate others enough not to use it, but I laugh also because as you educate 5, 15 more begin to use it in a different area.

[BobbyFresco]

dude...
im not the one goin' out there fuckin' any and everything.
besides... if i did. id make sure to use a connie

So YEAH i have PLENTEE respek for myself!

....What an intelligent rebuttal.......

[Dirty Octopus™]

I agree with you.

Thats the exact reason why some black people find it ok to use the word like it's nothing....They do not know their history or the sacrifices people before them have made so that we are able to live the lives that we do now.....No self respect or pride........I do not know of any self respecting black person that uses the n word or any variation, to refer to themselves or others as.....

so you're trying to say i dont have respect for myself because i choose not to be phased by a mere 6 letter word?

wow...

so that means i am lesser of a person because i have no respect for myself due to the fact that the word N*gger does not bother me.

well shit.
so much for me being successful in life and aspiring to be the next president of these great United States.

Maybe i should start getting offended by the word. maybe i should start all sorts of fights and riots and shit. Maybe i should endanger my life by speaking out against a word that is amongst the least of our worries.
perhaps i should be more petty and be angered by it as if it was a Weapon of Mass Destruction being pointed at my residence.

Maybe i should

[SLOWLYbtngU]

destruction*

[Dirty Octopus™]

destruction*

So!

[BobbyFresco]

so you're trying to say i dont have respect for myself because i choose not to be phased by a mere 6 letter word?

wow...

so that means i am lesser of a person because i have no respect for myself due to the fact that the word N*gger does not bother me.

well shit.
so much for me being successful in life and aspiring to be the next president of these great United States.

Maybe i should start getting offended by the word. maybe i should start all sorts of fights and riots and shit. Maybe i should endanger my life by speaking out against a word that is amongst the least of our worries.
perhaps i should be more petty and be angered by it as if it was a Weapon of Mass Destructing being pointed at my residence.

Maybe i should

You can try to spin this any way you'd like...It's obvious that we are going to have to agree to disagree...

I said nothing about personally being insulted bec of the usage of the word....However, I find it asinine on so many levels....
A. i think it's ridiculous for the word to be spoken by ANYONE.
B. I think it's even more ridiculous for a BLACK PERSON to use it....
C. I think it's even more ridiculous than A and B when a black person that uses the word is offended when others use it....
D. I'm willing to bet that if you had gone through the struggles that ppl before us did that the word wouldn't be so inconsequential to you.....But I digress....To each his or her own, I guess...

[tony]

I think you meant "themselves," and yes I quote him not for who he was but because that is definately worth quoting.

What is plain ignorant=niggerish.

Look I am not arguing with you in particular but what I am arguing is the fact that people are entitled to say what they please when they please. I have been spit in the face and called all kinds of creative things, and yet I hold no grudge because it doesnt phase me. People around me can insult me in so many different ways but at the end of the day it is me that has to come to the realization that they are wrong. Plain and simple. No matter how long people struggle to get rid of this word, it isnt going anywhere.

I commend those that try to educate others enough not to use it, but I laugh also because as you educate 5, 15 more begin to use it in a different area.

Lets not start pointing out typos.. trust me you dont want to, plus I don't think anyone here is trying to win a spelling bee.

Your train of thought says so much that is wrong with the current generation. "I'm entitled so i don't have to care" And you laugh at people who have standards and defend them? If laughing at them allows you to accept that their standards are higher than yours then so be it.

Hopefully as maturity comes your train of thought will change along with that... as a teenager I was one of those who used the term left and right but as I grew as a person I realized how utterly stupid and disrespectful it is to myself and others around me.

[blackshine007]

Lets not start pointing out typos.. trust me you dont want to, plus I don't think anyone here is trying to win a spelling bee.

Your train of thought says so much that is wrong with the current generation. "I'm entitled so i don't have to care" And you laugh at people who have standards and defend them? If laughing at them allows you to accept that their standards are higher than yours then so be it.

Hopefully as maturity comes your train of thought will change along with that... as a teenager I was one of those who used the term left and right but as I grew as a person I realized how utterly stupid and disrespectful it is to myself and others around me.

Great post

[Dirty Octopus™]

You can try to spin this any way you'd like...It's obvious that we are going to have to agree to disagree...

I said nothing about personally being insulted bec of the usage of the word....However, I find it asinine on so many levels....
A. i think it's ridiculous for the word to be spoken by ANYONE.
B. I think it's even more ridiculous for a BLACK PERSON to use it....
C. I think it's even more ridiculous than A and B when a black person that uses the word is offended when others use it....
D. I'm willing to bet that if you had gone through the struggles that ppl before us did that the word wouldn't be so inconsequential to you.....But I digress....To each his or her own, I guess...

thats cool.

BTW... maybe someday you could sit down with us at a pow wow and tell us about all the struggles my black bruthas went through.

[1000cckiller]

thats cool.

BTW... maybe someday you could sit down with us at a pow wow and tell us about all the struggles my black bruthas went through.

I can because my, parents and my grandparents did and it was drilled in my head all 18 years I lived in their house.

[BobbyFresco]

thats cool.

BTW... maybe someday you could sit down with us at a pow wow and tell us about all the struggles my black bruthas went through.

...Attitudes such as this are the precise reason why black people are falling behind other cultures and ethnicities day after day.....

[Dirty Octopus™]

...Attitudes such as this are the precise reason why black people are falling behind other cultures and ethnicities day after day.....

yeah... its attitudes like that why i cant do better for myself huh?

/thread

you're kinda sounding racist. and i dont wanna think that of you.

edit: damn... i think i just got offended. and i thought id never get offended in a silly thread like this.

this dude just said my people are falling behind other cultures in the race of ultimate racial status because of my "attitude" and fickle internet talk. wow...
im not even gonna defend myself. i'm so confused/hurt right now.

[SLOWLYbtngU]

Lets not start pointing out typos.. trust me you dont want to, plus I don't think anyone here is trying to win a spelling bee.

Your train of thought says so much that is wrong with the current generation. "I'm entitled so i don't have to care" And you laugh at people who have standards and defend them? If laughing at them allows you to accept that their standards are higher than yours then so be it.

Hopefully as maturity comes your train of thought will change along with that... as a teenager I was one of those who used the term left and right but as I grew as a person I realized how utterly stupid and disrespectful it is to myself and others around me.

sorry love, I do as I please when I please and though I may have several typos, as in spelling. I at least try to use the correct word. You can humor me by pointing mine out, I wouldnt mind. I see it as a chance to better myself.

I love the fact that you understand my train of thought so well from one discussion on the internet. My train of thought has nothing to do with entitled so dont care. It is more along the lines of entitled therefore I will. When I said that I laugh it wasnt out of humor but more out of disgust. I apologize that my panties dont get in a bunch when i hear the terms wetback or ****, like you do when you hear the term *****.

As far as maturity goes, vocabulary plays no part in maturity. However education does and I posses this also and yet have yet to change. I think it is more a matter of conformity and I have yet to reach that level in my life.

In essence we are all stating our opinions and I believe it should be the opinons attacked not the person. You can call me what you want but let's face it, when the day is over and we log out of our little heaven that is IA, we go home and just dont give a fuck...You take care of your baby and I come home and take care of my cat. Notice that in no way do our lives change...

[MrsDirtyOc™]

I can because my, parents and my grandparents did and it was drilled in my head all 18 years I lived in their house.

dude....hes random....thats all im going to say about that