Offer For Vick: 18-26 Months Of Jail is Minimum...LOL

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08-20-2007, 04:09 PM
bigdare23

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Originally Posted by Killer

killing an animal that is a potential threat, or eating it to survive is understandable.... TORTURING THEM IS DIFFERENT!

i wouldn't walk into a pet store.. buy snakes, breed them under extremely poor conditions.. force them to fight.. and then torture them when they didn't "perform well"

My point is dogs aren’t the only animals that get fought, tormented, or kill for no reason, but they are protected more than any other animal.

Also, it's funny how people consider snakes "dangerous” when they are less than a threat than dogs. Most snakes are harmless and more scared of you than what you are of them. I believe more people get bite/killed by dogs in the US than any other animal.
08-20-2007, 04:19 PM
Killer

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Originally Posted by bigdare23

Why not? What make's killing a dog worse? I just used snakes as an example, but they're other animals that get tormented just like dogs (or even worse), and it's for fun also.

And I agree with ya, that fucking up animals for fun is wrong, but why is it worse when its a dog?

no body is saying it's worse cause it's a dog...

vick didn't fight chickens, frogs, snails, tigers, octopus, polar bears, or kittens.... he fought pit bulls....
08-20-2007, 04:19 PM
tony

Roy Jones Jr OPENLY supports Gamecock fighting which is very brutal and sees no consequences, Vick is being indicted on conspiracy.. meaning he didnt even have to BE THERE! He was just a part of the operation.. but again if that same dog that he was transporting from state to state kills a child he'd be in training camp right now.

And this is our judicial system, even more amazing is that dog fighting didnt become a felony until 8 days after Vicks house was searched.

I'll also say Vick has fucked his team, his fans and his future and he has to be one of the dumbest people around. I blame him and I also blame all those people who courted his ass all his life simply because he can run and throw simultaneously.
08-20-2007, 04:22 PM
Killer

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Originally Posted by tony

Roy Jones Jr OPENLY supports Gamecock fighting which is very brutal and sees no consequences, Vick is being indicted on conspiracy.. meaning he didnt even have to BE THERE! He was just a part of the operation.. but again if that same dog that he was transporting from state to state kills a child he'd be in training camp right now.

And this is our judicial system, even more amazing is that dog fighting didnt become a felony until 8 days after Vicks house was searched.

I'll also say Vick has fucked his team, his fans and his future and he has to be one of the dumbest people around. I blame him and I also blame all those people who courted his ass all his life simply because he can run and throw simultaneously.

i don't support it at all.. but is gamecock fighting illegal in all states???
08-20-2007, 04:26 PM
bigdare23

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Originally Posted by Killer

no body is saying it's worse cause it's a dog...

vick didn't fight chickens, frogs, snails, tigers, octopus, polar bears, or kittens.... he fought pit bulls....

but if he was fighting chickens, frogs, snails, tigers, octopus, polar bears, or kittens, would you be going back and forth with me right now......
08-20-2007, 04:31 PM
Killer

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Originally Posted by bigdare23

but if he was fighting chickens, frogs, snails, tigers, octopis, polar bears, or kittens, would you be going back and forth with me right now......

sure would

and my problem isn't as much as the fighting as it is the torture...

he's a dip shit for fighting them...

but what he did to those animals was completely uncalled for.. and inhumane.
08-20-2007, 04:35 PM
bigdare23

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Originally Posted by Killer

sure would

sure :rolleyes:

If so, it would be for no reason, since Vick would be playing preseason football right now.
08-20-2007, 04:39 PM
Kelly

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Originally Posted by Killer

sure would

I know you wouldn't be half as passionate as you're being if it were chihuahua's. As much as you hate them...

You'd probably even make some remark about them deserving it.
08-20-2007, 04:48 PM
Jaimecbr900

If you can find any defense to breeding an animal strictly for the purpose of fighting, mistreating an animal because it "lost" you money in an illegal activity, mistreating an animal to make it "mean" and "ready" instead of treating it with dignity and compassion, getting ANY pleasure from watching ANY animal mame and intentionally hurt another living thing, injecting animals with untold chemicals to "bulk" it up, cutting off the circulation to the tail and ears WITH RUBBER BANDS until the flesh rots off......you are just as worthless as Vick is.

And before you come at me with all the useless banter of "you're jumping on the bandwagon"..... I say BULLSHIT. I come from a family that BRED roosters to fight. People came to grandfathers house from the other side of the island to buy specific fighting cocks because of their lineage. I've seen FIRST HAND what fighting cocks do to each other when provoked to fight. I've cleaned up dead animals and seen STEEL spurs be put onto the feet of roosters to fight. It is still legal in PR to fight them. There are mini-coliseums to go see it at. When we got old enough to ask questions and see our favorites be taken off by someone in a box to go fight and we were left crying.....my grandfather made a decision NOT to raise them anymore. He raised egg laying hens, guinea fowl, turkeys, orchids, and other exotic flowers. He, and I, once thought it was no big deal to let two roosters go at it. Not anymore and never again.

So all the Vick advocates can talk all they want about it's "just dogs", but in reality they FEEL just like we do. They cry out in pain, they love our attention, they would die for us if it came down to it....yet some people reward that by throwing them into some backyard ghetto ring to fight another snarling beast that knows no better.

It is one thing for an accident to happen or a dog maul someone defending it's owner. It is completely another to have animals and treat them as mere possesions and instruments for your own sick pleasures.

:2cents:

P.S. I totally agree with Walker and am really glad it's finally coming to end for Vick. We certainly have far better things to worry about than if or if not this thug gets sent to jail. He belonged in jail before, and now he just may get to be there.
08-20-2007, 04:52 PM
Kelly

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Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900

If you can find any defense to breeding an animal strictly for the purpose of fighting, mistreating an animal because it "lost" you money in an illegal activity, mistreating an animal to make it "mean" and "ready" instead of treating it with dignity and compassion, getting ANY pleasure from watching ANY animal mame and intentionally hurt another living thing, injecting animals with untold chemicals to "bulk" it up, cutting off the circulation to the tail and ears WITH RUBBER BANDS until the flesh rots off......you are just as worthless as Vick is.

And before you come at me with all the useless banter of "you're jumping on the bandwagon"..... I say BULLSHIT. I come from a family that BRED roosters to fight. People came to grandfathers house from the other side of the island to buy specific fighting cocks because of their lineage. I've seen FIRST HAND what fighting cocks do to each other when provoked to fight. I've cleaned up dead animals and seen STEEL spurs be put onto the feet of roosters to fight. It is still legal in PR to fight them. There are mini-coliseums to go see it at. When we got old enough to ask questions and see our favorites be taken off by someone in a box to go fight and we were left crying.....my grandfather made a decision NOT to raise them anymore. He raised egg laying hens, guinea fowl, turkeys, orchids, and other exotic flowers. He, and I, once thought it was no big deal to let two roosters go at it. Not anymore and never again.

So all the Vick advocates can talk all they want about it's "just dogs", but in reality they FEEL just like we do. They cry out in pain, they love our attention, they would die for us if it came down to it....yet some people reward that by throwing them into some backyard ghetto ring to fight another snarling beast that knows no better.

It is one thing for an accident to happen or a dog maul someone defending it's owner. It is completely another to have animals and treat them as mere possesions and instruments for your own sick pleasures.

:2cents:

P.S. I totally agree with Walker and am really glad it's finally coming to end for Vick. We certainly have far better things to worry about than if or if not this thug gets sent to jail. He belonged in jail before, and now he just may get to be there.

I agree with you 100% :goodjob:
08-20-2007, 05:02 PM
Kelly

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Originally Posted by bigdare23

You dont know anything about, so get to know me before you judge my character. :goodjob:

I not defending Vick, but I hate how animal rights tend to apply "mostly" for dogs and that's the point I was making. It seem, like if you're not typing "Kill Vick" you're automatically label as an animal hater.

Thanks but I was talkin to Killer...
08-20-2007, 05:05 PM
OneSlow5pt0

iv never killed a animal,and never will unless its life or death

these people that set cats on fire,and beat dogs...make me sick and they deserve to be in jail
08-20-2007, 05:08 PM
BKgen®

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Originally Posted by HypnoToad

iv never killed a animal,and never will unless its life or death

these people that set cats on fire,and beat dogs...make me sick and they deserve to be in jail

amen.

that's the moral of the story here.
08-20-2007, 05:11 PM
bigdare23

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Originally Posted by Kelly

Thanks but I was talkin to Killer...

I'm sorry LOL

owned myself, thought I saw killer :lmfao:
08-20-2007, 05:13 PM
Kelly

Yeah... I really would love to be an animal cop. That's one of my favorite shows. :yes:
08-20-2007, 05:30 PM
Killer

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Originally Posted by Kelly

I know you wouldn't be half as passionate as you're being if it were chihuahua's. As much as you hate them...

You'd probably even make some remark about them deserving it.

you're right... i set one on fire yesterday.... then i stomped it to put the fire out. :rolleyes: :gay:
08-20-2007, 07:47 PM
ShooterMcGavin

they should film his guilty plea and play it on primetime, on monday nite football :yes: :goodjob:
08-20-2007, 08:09 PM
Hulud

btw, i ordered two of the dog toys
08-20-2007, 09:18 PM
fire7882

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Originally Posted by WHAT_LAG

If vick get less than a year, he will be back next year not 2009. 1 YEAR SENTENCE, good behavior= 3 to 4 months.

Good behavior can cut an inmate's time by only about 15 percent with the feds. If the sentence is less than a year, he must serve all the time. This isn't state prison.
08-20-2007, 09:19 PM
OneSlow5pt0

and tthey said on ESPN if he was in state court he be looking at 4-5 years
08-20-2007, 10:03 PM
ShooterMcGavin

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Originally Posted by fire7882

Good behavior can cut an inmate's time by only about 15 percent with the feds. If the sentence is less than a year, he must serve all the time. This isn't state prison.

not to mention he won't even be sentenced til october at least, and the falcons as a team won't cut him until next june when it makes sense for the cap room to do so. he won't be playing until '09 at the EARLIEST, assuming he's not banned from the nfl AND a coach/gm has the balls and/or backing to take a chance on him.

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