Tank, his supra, and the "cover up"

[2jz240sx]

i think ive put about 17k into my car....
so....yeah! WHAT UP NOW!

[bigdare23]

My dad doesnt care. One time i was out in the garage working on mycar, and he's like why cant you leave it alone? and i said , I want more power, he said get the power you want then stop

Trust me, my dad does not care if my car is turbo, THE ONLY REASON THE MOTOR IS COMING OUT IS FOR AC

"Son, I'm worried about you driving your car in the summer time without any air condition. It's not safe. You never know what could happen. You could get caught in traffic on 85 and without AC you might black out."

[SL33P3R]

"Son, I'm worried about you driving your car in the summer time without any air condition. It's not safe. You never know what could happen. You could get caught in traffic on 85 and without AC you might black out."

I want AC. so my dad did a b16 swap

[bigdare23]

Bottom line - shit blows up, whether you work on it yourself or whether another shop does.

MSPI took on a project that had already seen probs from previous shops. The ups and downs of that build, and the "other" shops less than perfect knowledge was very public knowledge.

There is no use on character knocking ANY1 - it's about the CARS, and possibly $$. Leave it at that. There is not one perfect person on this board other than me and bigdare, and I'd never bash some1s personality in a public forum - not SERIOUSLY anyway.

90% of the people in this thread has never had anything SERIOUS done at MSP. Hell, and a great deal of you have never even had a serious car PERIOD. So STFU.

At the end of the day, from what I know and hanging out w/ Tank he is a decent guy So is Mike. Let them work this shit out and every1 else STFU.

+1

[SL33P3R]

i think ive put about 17k into my car....
so....yeah! WHAT UP NOW!

BALLA BALLLA

[1000cckiller]

Bottom line - shit blows up, whether you work on it yourself or whether another shop does.

MSPI took on a project that had already seen probs from previous shops. The ups and downs of that build, and the "other" shops less than perfect knowledge was very public knowledge.

There is no use on character knocking ANY1 - it's about the CARS, and possibly $$. Leave it at that. There is not one perfect person on this board other than me, and I'd never bash some1s personality in a public forum - not SERIOUSLY anyway.

90% of the people in this thread has never had anything SERIOUS done at MSP. Hell, and a great deal of you have never even had a serious car PERIOD. So STFU.

At the end of the day, from what I know and hanging out w/ Tank he is a decent guy So is Mike. Let them work this shit out and every1 else STFU.

J we have said that 4millonx's and it hasnt worked yet, you the only perfect one

[Tank]

i think ive put about 17k into my car....
so....yeah! WHAT UP NOW!

since you feel you need to compare a grand total for everything in my supra over 20k, although im not proud of it cause the car still aint running right i will say thats the estimated amount so try again.............

[1000cckiller]

ohhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!he put 17k in one of his cars wish I could do that

[Vteckidd]

there was no sign i was on 20 east heading back to work the car cut off luckily i was in the far lane so i merged off....................when i popped the hood radiator fluid was everywhere and the car wouldnt turn over........ My bestfriend Mo "saiyogen on here" was with me....if it had of backfired or anything i would have known. however no sign other then it cutting off.........

WE PUT A NEW THERMOSTAT IN YOUR CAR, I WILL SCAN THE RECEIPT. So, your blaming this on a thermostat ? thats cause someone on supraforums responded to your half assed post?

None of this is our fault, LOTS of info coming in 1 sec. im at work, and this is going to get GOOD

[Vteckidd]

Tank, I don't know who's fault this was but from the outside looking in.... It sure sounds fishy. How could you not smell coolant? It has a very distinct smell to it.

Also, blowing up a motor doesn't necessarily fall on the person's shoulders that built it. I could jump in a fully built car and blow the motor. Does that mean it is the fault of the builder?

Knowledge is your biggest enemy right now, or therefor lack of. I would do a shit load of research on the Supra and then try rebuilding it again. I did research on the Evo forums for about 2 years before I even bought the car and started building it.

Don't expect it to happen over night either. Building a high horsepower car takes time




So, let me understand this a little better.

1. Speedometer doesn't work?

2. Temperature gauge doesn't work?

3. RPM gauge is off by as much as 1500 rpms?

4. Tranny doesn't won't allow it to go over 119mph?

5. Limited by the gear?


I'm not taking sides, but it sounds like you were too stuck on buying parts to make your car "go fast" rather than buy the parts to fix it and monitor it.

Sinking all that money into a car without being able to monitor things like temp, rpms, and egt's is dangerous. Thats just asking for trouble.

Hell, I don't even trust the stock temperature gauge as they can be off as much as 60 degrees. I learned my lesson in a previous car when the stock gauge read everything was normal, but the aftermarket gauge read it was running too hot.

..and as far as the funny as remarks in this thread. I almost peed myself.

AHHHHHH , THANK YOU!

[Tank]

WE PUT A NEW THERMOSTAT IN YOUR CAR, I WILL SCAN THE RECEIPT. So, your blaming this on a thermostat ? thats cause someone on supraforums responded to your half assed post?

None of this is our fault, LOTS of info coming in 1 sec. im at work, and this is going to get GOOD

again ill say take the time and read my initial post supraforums mike and re-read the PM i sent you no where in that did it say i blamed mainstream. I spoke to you face to face and told you i wasnt blaming you and that i didnt. I told you all i wanted was it fixed. So yes i went on supraforums and asked a question who wouldnt. i have my car less then 15 minutes total and its overheated, so yes i got curious and asked on a forum with Big shops "sound performance, boostlogic, etc..." to see what they thought. if that made you defensive not my fault ive been honest and straight forward with you since its blown its a shame that you have taken it to this childish level on IA.



Tank

also please respond to my pm about the car being picked up and all parts including what came off the car there please.......

[Tank]

matter a fact ill even show the pm i sent you i saved it this was yesterday

hey man i made this thread on sF just trying to get some info and well ill let you read it hit me back and let me know what you think about it cause it raises some concern. Not calling you all a liar or anything but you all dyno'd the car no overheating, ive driven on that tranny before and it never overheated but did you all check the thermastat let me know again not blaming nayone ust wondering and you havent hit me back on none of my other pm's or anything whats up man holla back ...............

http://www.supraforums.com/forum/sho...=1#post5108192

so again i say if i wanted to bash mainstream why did i pm you this why did i link you to the thread, lets be adults about this mike. No one bashed you and you know it, you jumped to a conclusion and got defensive over nothing even the supraforums members "excluding the 2 you brought over there to post" agree that i never attacked you.


Tank

[RiceBoy]

Yo!!! So when there is a time and place agreed upon a FIGHT, can someone please pm me. I WANNA SEE! Seriously.

[kennyboi]

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damn I am not taking any side here
TANK IF YOU GOING FOR XXX AMOUNT OF POWER YOUR GAUGES SHOULD WORK
CAUSE IF THE GAUGES WOULD HAVE BEEN WORKING YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THE TEMP GAUGE GOING TOWARD H AND YOU WOULD HAVE PULLED OVER. BEFORE ANYONE NOT JUST TANK PUTS MONEY INTO THEIR CAR MAKE SURE THERE ARE NO MAJOR PROBLEM.


MIKE I READ SF POST TO ME HE WASN'T SAYING MSPi WAS A BAD SHOP
THIS IS BETWEEN MSPi AND TANK NOT IA MSPi AND TANK

G/L TO THE BOTH OF YOU

[2jz240sx]

since you feel you need to compare a grand total for everything in my supra over 20k, although im not proud of it cause the car still aint running right i will say thats the estimated amount so try again.............

haha yea 20k and it was a POS obviously!

[Tank]

haha yea 20k and it was a POS obviously!

a very ignorant comment to say the least................but the parts are not POS's also since you made this statement almost half of 20K was payment to shops for work so are you calling there work shit..sure sounds like it.............step back this thread really does not need your comments


tank

[Vteckidd]

Tank started a thread on Supraforums, posted PRIVATE MESSAGES I SENT HIM, and he then tried to insinuate it was our fault. All of this after we had DETAILED discussions with him about his car and what we think happened.

Tank may have not directly bashed me or the shop, but he hinted at it. Someone said "check the thermostat" and he says "I had a new motor, they didnt check the thermostat, it was their fault" is pretty damn close to pointing fingers. the problem is, tank doesnt know the difference between a thermostat and an oil filter.

WE REPLACED HIS THERMOSTAT WITH A BRAND NEW UNIT, with a NEW GASKET. So his claim of "mainstream didnt properly check out my thermostat an thats why my motor blew " is complete an utter BULLSHIT. Again, for the last time, his CAR NEVER OVERHEATED ON OUR DYNO EVER or during street tests. He simply put the car in a situation i could not duplicate, and it got hot, he chose to drive on it tell the car melted down. Even now he is LYING, he told me, Rob Farley, Erin , Turbo Dave that the car "STARTED SMOKING FROM UNDER THE HOOD, STARTED MISFIRING, I KEPT DRIVING IT". The car simply did not just magically, SHUT OFF like he claims.

He has also denied having to pay us storage, well here it is folks:
Here is the letter i emailed/sent him


Here is the INVOICE HE PAID WITH CASH WITH STORAGE FEES:


LOOK AT THE DATE, its OCTOBER 17th, that was the date that invoice was GENERATED which means thats when work was done on his car.

This is the copy of the DAMAGE DYNO WAIVER he signed Authorizing us to dyno his car:


This is his TEMP GAUGE with the car OFF:


This is his Dyno sheet after 5 hours of tuning. This is his NEW DYNO versus what he got when he tuned for just 1 hour in October:



This proves that his car has NEVER MADE 500whp like he claims, it never made more than 272whp

This is a graph showing you where his tranny tops out in MPH, well under 120mph:


This shows his 1BAR AF/Ratios versus his higher boost. He would have drove on the street right at 420whp, the 467whp pull was done witha vacuum T and the a/f ratios were mildy tuned, but as you can see , they are RETARDED rich, so he should have no way to blow his motor up:


This is Video of his car running an idling:


This is Video of his car on the dyno:




If anyone can see from all that where we did something wrong, well, i just cant see it.

[Tracer]

Tank why drive the car if u still had things to be fixed? Like ur gauges and the leak.....?

[2jz240sx]

OMG HAHAHA
STEP BACK! WHERE ELSE WAS I STEPPIN?
20k and no good gauges? or controllers?
WHO IS IGNORANT NOW!

[1000cckiller]

Yo!!! So when there is a time and place agreed upon a FIGHT, can someone please pm me. I WANNA SEE! Seriously.

I did .He's not going to show