Imus just lost his show

["B"]

People keep trying to justify the reamark by saying that "there were white girls there too"

That is very true, but did any one hear Imus tie in Spike Lee to the remark. No one here has brought that up. I do not have the exact quote, but it was along the lines of "It's like a Spike Lee Joint out there", then his co-host threw in the "jiggaboo" line.

Radio show host alot of times discuss what they are going to say on the cast before they air........I FEEL THIS WAS SCRIPTED FOR REACTION BY THE LISTENERS, HE GOT A REACTION FROM THEM, AND THE SHOW....dropped

He is an ignorant person for saying it, and the co-host....


I am still debating on how to call his comment, but either racist or ignorant, it should not have been said.......he offened the team and the school community

Then his assistant made the racist comment.

[Kamikaze]

Most "minorities" don't know how it really feels to be the "hated minority".

I'm sure it feels very similar to being called a nigger, or seeing people dressed up in black-face, or being called a "nappy headed ho..." Need I go on? You're being hated because of a genetic difference that really doesn't have anything to do with the person you are on the inside. Welcome to the club.

[ORGANIZATIONXIII]

I guess FOXNEWS will be picking up his show

[Evil Goat]

Sadly, Sharpton has followers of all races. He is a very educated man with a strong and wild opinion, GOOD and BAD....

But it takes an educated person to filter the BS that he sometimes rides on.....

3 years at brooklyn college is far from educated...theres no doubt hes smart, but hes not educated, theres a difference

[Evil Goat]

I'm sure it feels very similar to being called a nigger, or seeing people dressed up in black-face, or being called a "nappy headed ho..." Need I go on? You're being hated because of a genetic difference that really doesn't have anything to do with the person you are on the inside. Welcome to the club.

i hardly care, nor want to hear about blacks being called niggers.....although obviously way out of place, and wrong, it is widely and openly used by the black community, which noone can or will deny....double standard ftl

[rolling_trip]

Then his assistant made the racist comment.

But yet his assistant wasn't a "trophy" to go after. Everyone is trying to comment on the matter for their 5 sec's of fame. I would glady trade AS and JJ's lives, if it would bring back MLK Jr. I guess people forget that this endfighting is against his movement. As long as there are people that will throw out racist slurs, as well as people there to pull the race card, THIS SHIT WILL NEVER END!

["B"]

I'm sure it feels very similar to being called a nigger, or seeing people dressed up in black-face, or being called a "nappy headed ho..." Need I go on? You're being hated because of a genetic difference that really doesn't have anything to do with the person you are on the inside. Welcome to the club.

You know how many times I have been called a "cracker" "whiteboy" "redneck"or hill billy" in my life? I don't give a fuck what people say about me. Were they nappy headed hos in your opinion?

[AirMax95]

3 years at brooklyn college is far from educated...theres no doubt hes smart, but hes not educated, theres a difference

I do not agree......

You can be educated outside of book smart. I see your point clearly, but I guess he lacks a higher institutional education

Either way he knows his stuff, just does not use it in the best way very often. I really get tired of him talking sometimes, lol

["B"]

But yet his assistant wasn't a "trophy" to go after. Everyone is trying to comment on the matter for their 5 sec's of fame. I would glady trade AS and JJ's lives, if it would bring back MLK Jr. I guess people forget that this endfighting is against his movement. As long as there are people that will throw out racist slurs, as well as people there to pull the race card, THIS SHIT WILL NEVER END!

I agree

["B"]

i hardly care, nor want to hear about blacks being called niggers.....although obviously way out of place, and wrong, it is widely and openly used by the black community, which noone can or will deny....double standard ftl

BINGO

[Evil Goat]

You know how many times I have been called a "cracker" "whiteboy" "redneck"or hill billy" in my life? I don't give a fuck what people say about me. Were they nappy headed hos in your opinion?

good point

[AirMax95]

But yet his assistant wasn't a "trophy" to go after. Everyone is trying to comment on the matter for their 5 sec's of fame. I would glady trade AS and JJ's lives, if it would bring back MLK Jr. I guess people forget that this endfighting is against his movement. As long as there are people that will throw out racist slurs, as well as people there to pull the race card, THIS SHIT WILL NEVER END!

I agree, both should have received some sort of punishment, so to speak.

If the race card would go away, the world would move just a little closer to being better off.....

[twinj]

This and every race subject is pointless. Everyone is just spinning wheels. You can say " Nappy head hoes aint that bad". blah blah, but your peope didn't get the shit beat out of them and treated like shit for years. if the situation turn around then. everyone will understand why it got blown out of poportion.

^^You are right it will never end. It goes back to 1st grade don't call someone a name you don't want to be called, treat people the way you want to be treated. That is it PERIOD it ain't that hard.

[Kamikaze]

You know how many times I have been called a "cracker" "whiteboy" "redneck"or hill billy" in my life? I don't give a fuck what people say about me.

Okay. Then why does it matter that you are a part of the "hated minority"?

Most "minorities" don't know how it really feels to be the "hated minority".

To me it seems like you're saying that minorities don't know what it feels like to be hated? I'm sure that can't be so.

[AirMax95]

i hardly care, nor want to hear about blacks being called niggers.....although obviously way out of place, and wrong, it is widely and openly used by the black community, which noone can or will deny....double standard ftl

there is the problem!!!!!! STOP GENERALIZING THE DAMN COMMUNTY, that is a form of the race card!!!!

I hear whites, asians, black, mexican,........using the word all the time!!!!!

There are ignorant people who use the word, not just one "community"!!!

quit that shit!!!!!!

[Evil Goat]

This and every race subject is pointless. Everyone is just spinning wheels. You can say " Nappy head hoes aint that bad". blah blah, but your peope didn't get the shit beat out of them and treated like shit for years. if the situation turn around then. everyone will understand why it got blown out of poportion.

^^You are right it will never end. It goes back to 1st grade don't call someone a name you don't want to be called, treat people the way you want to be treated. That is it PERIOD it ain't that hard.

seriously....are you fucking kidding me? name one ancestor of yours, NOW, off the top of your head that was a slave....give me a fucking break...people act like the white male was the first person to come up w/ slavery...news fucking flash....slavery was around well before colonized america, and still exists in some parts of the world....dont give me that hooty tooty bullshit about your ancestors this your ancestors that....next thing you know youll want reparations....reparations via what else? the almighty dollar....to make your pain and suffering go away for something that may or may not have happened, b/c you probably dont know, to people in your family youre great grandparents didnt even fucking know

[Evil Goat]

there is the problem!!!!!! STOP GENERALIZING THE DAMN COMMUNTY, that is a form of the race card!!!!

I hear whites, asians, black, mexican,........using the word all the time!!!!!

There are ignorant people who use the word, not just one "community"!!!

quit that shit!!!!!!

everyone generalizes races...its a given fact, you see one dumb white person you tend to think theyre all stupid...you see one black call another nigger, nigga, or some other variation of the word and you tend to think they all use it

youre right though, that is a part of the big problem

[twinj]

You misunderstood what i said. BASICALLY WHAT I SAID WAS TREAT PEOPLE THE WAY YOU WANT TO BE TREATED. IF I CALL YOU A BITCH THEN IT WILL BE A ARGUEMENT. THANK YOU SAMETHING I WAS THINKING.

[Evil Goat]

You misunderstood what i said. BASICALLY WHAT I SAID WAS TREAT PEOPLE THE WAY YOU WANT TO BE TREATED. IF I CALL YOU A BITCH THEN IT WILL BE A ARGUEMENT. THANK YOU SAMETHING I WAS THINKING.

i must have, b/c to me it clearly seemed like you were playing the race card, my apologies

[AirMax95]

seriously....are you fucking kidding me? name one ancestor of yours, NOW, off the top of your head that was a slave....give me a fucking break...people act like the white male was the first person to come up w/ slavery...news fucking flash....slavery was around well before colonized america, and still exists in some parts of the world....dont give me that hooty tooty bullshit about your ancestors this your ancestors that....next thing you know youll want reparations....reparations via what else? the almighty dollar....to make your pain and suffering go away for something that may or may not have happened, b/c you probably dont know, to people in your family youre great grandparents didnt even fucking know

I can name several family members, starting with my GGP's. I, personally, do not want reparations. I demand respect, which everyone in this country/world deserve when they earn it.......

[AirMax95]

everyone generalizes races...its a given fact, you see one dumb white person you tend to think theyre all stupid...you see one black call another nigger, nigga, or some other variation of the word and you tend to think they all use it

youre right though, that is a part of the big problem

Alot of people do; Myself and alot of my friends call each other by our given names, or nicknames. People on IA do it all the time. It seems though when an arguement or dispute arises, the race card gets pulled hella hard......

So, how about those Braves?

[twinj]

i must have, b/c to me it clearly seemed like you were playing the race card, my apologies

Its all good.

[Evil Goat]

I can name several family members, starting with my GGP's. I, personally, do not want reparations. I demand respect, which everyone in this country/world deserve when they earn it.......

youre 24...making your parents at their oldest to be what 60 when they had you? and your ggp's 60 when they had your parents....meaning your oldest ggp couldnt have been born more than 120-140 years ago....which takes us to the 1885 era....slavery was abolished in what 1866? and the first black senator elected in 1875....i hardly believe your ggp's were slaves...

now realistically...your ggps, whether alive or not, are probably in the area of 100 yrs old...making it even more unrealistic that they were slaves


regardless...if you work, pay your own bills, and only ask for help when it is a last resort.....you have my respect as a man just like myself

[Evil Goat]

So, how about those Braves?

kicking ass....too bad this will be andruws last season in a braves uniform...

[AirMax95]

youre 24...making your parents at their oldest to be what 60 when they had you? and your ggp's 60 when they had your parents....meaning your oldest ggp couldnt have been born more than 120-140 years ago....which takes us to the 1885 era....slavery was abolished in what 1866? and the first black senator elected in 1875....i hardly believe your ggp's were slaves...

now realistically...your ggps, whether alive or not, are probably in the area of 100 yrs old...making it even more unrealistic that they were slaves


regardless...if you work, pay your own bills, and only ask for help when it is a last resort.....you have my respect as a man just like myself

It was abolished, YES. Completely ended, NO. Well known fact in history.

[Evil Goat]

It was abolished, YES. Completely ended, NO. Well known fact in history.

really? im a history major and i dont remember going over that...yet in still...your ggps are probably not older than 100 or so....making them born in the early 1900's....hardly slave trading days

[Jaimecbr900]

#1. To all that are saying Sharpton and Jackson are not leaders:
A. Name some real leaders then.
B. Quit justifying their dumbass moves. The more you justify their moves and approve of what they do, the more it makes you look as stupid as them.

#2. How fair would you feel if I came in to YOUR work and told YOUR boss that something you said outloud was offensive to me and he FIRED YOU?

#3. Look up the definition of RACIST. Better yet, I'll do it and you just read it:

rac·ism /ˈreɪsɪzəm/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[rey-siz-uhm] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun 1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

#4. Please someone, anyone.......show me where in the DEFINITION of RACISM does even mention that it is the reference to hair or to a certain race's hair or to making a stupid comment. Where? Someone please point it out. You can't, because it doesn't exist. Therefore, the comment was NOT racist. Stupid and thoughtless and crass, absolutely.

#5. Walk over to the mirror and look into it. Please tell me with a straight face and being honest that YOU have never said something that the second it rolled off your tongue you wished you could suck it back into your mouth. If you can, then you can certainly make a big deal about some has-been making a stupid comment. If you can't, then you should understand his position.

#6. Noone is condoning what the tard said. Most people just merely think it was blown out of proportion and used as something that it wasn't. All the excuses being thrown around still come right back to the same point: this should never have been made into a big racist media circus, period. Why can't we all, black/white/brown/green/blue, simply call a racist a racist? Why do people think that because you are Black you CAN'T be a racist? Some of the biggest racists are indeed BLACK.

#7. It is ignorant to say that something is wrong when one person says it and right when another says it with the only difference being the color of their skin. That is RACIST. SEE THE DEFINITION ABOVE if you don't understand that concept. I am so tired of hearing the same old lame excuses. Be men, be leaders, be examples, be positive role models and call jackasses by their name.....jackasses.

#8. The reality is that racism will never truly go away. You know why? See #1-#7 above. Just when you make a little head way we all end seeing Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson or any other racist being plastered all over the TV and the "millions" of believers right behind them cheering them on. The day that everyone stops all this political correctness gayness and stop tip toeing around the TRUTH is the day that humanity will move forward. Until then....we'll all be stuck in the same rut that has been around since the beginning of time.

[Evil Goat]

really? im a history major and i dont remember going over that...yet in still...your ggps are probably not older than 100 or so....making them born in the early 1900's....hardly slave trading days

thats b/c its an oppressed part of what our society teaches us today...youd know that if you were black


i kid, i kid, i was pulling your leg, just looking for some useless banter, got an early meeting at work tomorrow, so im out...ill have to check this thread out again tomorrow night

["B"]

Okay. Then why does it matter that you are a part of the "hated minority"?

Because I know what it really feels like.

To me it seems like you're saying that minorities don't know what it feels like to be hated? I'm sure that can't be so.

Most "minorities" don't, since they are no longer really minorities anyways. White people are becoming the minority now. I just happened to get a jump start on it because of where I lived.

One would think that the majority of people of color OTW (other than white) went to schools that were a majority OTW or atleast close to half.

[Evil Goat]

#1. To all that are saying Sharpton and Jackson are not leaders:
A. Name some real leaders then.

mlk...sharpton and jess jackoff will never, ever, be able to live up to what mlk was getting across to millions, and still is getting across to people now...mlk was a black figure that anyone could look up to, im a white male, and i have taught my son about 4 people, christ, mlk, josh gibson, and jackie robinson (last two were for my entertainment only, im a baseball fan)

[Jaimecbr900]

mlk...sharpton and jess jackoff will never, ever, be able to live up to what mlk was getting across to millions, and still is getting across to people now...mlk was a black figure that anyone could look up to, im a white male, and i have taught my son about 4 people, christ, mlk, josh gibson, and jackie robinson (last two were for my entertainment only, im a baseball fan)

True, but MLK is unfortunately no longer around. I'm willing to bet that if he were the Jesse's and Al's of the world wouldn't exist.

I mean I saw someone post that Al and Jesse weren't leaders, so I'm asking them to name who is then.

[BLK JDM]

Al S. and Jesse J. are puppets, politicos of the media if I may say so myself. If you take these 2 out the picture I believe Imus would still be fired.

Imus is a shock jock but I believe he still had some boundaries that were definitely crossed w/ him and his partner' comments. We all have limitations in what we can do and say at work. He met his limitation and was let go for that. At my job there have actually been a couple employees let go after making jokes toward another race and the person being joked upon was not the one that called HR. The person being joked upon thought it was funny and went along his merry way. It was a bystander of the white race that felt it was wrong for them to joke on a Persian Muslim. What Imus said was not a depiction of what MSNBC wants to represent so they let him go.

Now was his comment racist-that's borderline. It will always be a good debate. What it was-totally sexist! The problem w/ this whole discussion is that we are bringing too many outside influences of this matter into the conflict. It is a very well written debate w/ little whoring but I still think there si too much bias being thrown around.

No one has stated the opinions of the Rutger's players nor the rally at the campus.

We as Americans always cry this freedom of speech bullshit. There are limitations to everything. That's why our forefathers set up the Constitution to be ratified and as broad as possible. Remember we all go out and vote for a President but 99.9% aren't part of the Electoral College-so it aint really meaning shit. That's there to protect ourselves from our uneducated selves.

[Professor X]

I believe that the largest problem is the attempt to generalize a person or group of people by their race. I have said it before and I will say it again; it is wrong for anyone to be racist, sexist or make racist, sexist remarks. I could care less how many black people you hear call themselves the n-word. That means nothing about black people. How many honda guys have you seen call their cars fast and run 16.0 in the 1/4 mile. So are you gonna generalize all honda guys into that way of thinking. Better yet, Peter's car is gold so all gold Integra's with intercoolers are fast and make 800+whp. I don't know how many of you work in coporate america but you can be fired for having a calender of women if SOMEONE finds it offensive and files sexual harassment. That means, anyone can be fired for offendng someone. Moral of the story; watch what you say and do. But CNN isn't reporting on that therefore it isn't news .

[Jaimecbr900]

Al S. and Jesse J. are puppets, politicos of the media if I may say so myself. If you take these 2 out the picture I believe Imus would still be fired.

Imus is a shock jock but I believe he still had some boundaries that were definitely crossed w/ him and his partner' comments. We all have limitations in what we can do and say at work. He met his limitation and was let go for that. At my job there have actually been a couple employees let go after making jokes toward another race and the person being joked upon was not the one that called HR. The person being joked upon thought it was funny and went along his merry way. It was a bystander of the white race that felt it was wrong for them to joke on a Persian Muslim. What Imus said was not a depiction of what MSNBC wants to represent so they let him go.

Now was his comment racist-that's borderline. It will always be a good debate. What it was-totally sexist! The problem w/ this whole discussion is that we are bringing too many outside influences of this matter into the conflict. It is a very well written debate w/ little whoring but I still think there si too much bias being thrown around.

No one has stated the opinions of the Rutger's players nor the rally at the campus.

We as Americans always cry this freedom of speech bullshit. There are limitations to everything. That's why our forefathers set up the Constitution to be ratified and as broad as possible. Remember we all go out and vote for a President but 99.9% aren't part of the Electoral College-so it aint really meaning shit. That's there to protect ourselves from our uneducated selves.

Look at my boy Jerel trying to sound all smart and stuff.

You do remember that I KNOW you, right?......

JP, but you still wrong......

Let's keep it real. What he said was stupid, but it wasn't racist and it wasn't enough to lose his job over. The only reason he lost his job was that the two race pimps beat on their drums loud enough to make a lot of the advertisers worry. If they don't do something, they will be perceived as racist. So from a business point of view, it would be stupid NOT to threaten to pull your ads. It's free advertising and a feather in your cap even if it didn't upset you all that much.

Bottomline is that he got fired over a double standard. If he was Black, he would still have a job today. Since he's an old white guy, he gets to lose his job and forever be linked as a racist. How's that fair? It's not. It's a double standard. Look at Charles Barkley, Spike Lee, Kanye West, and the rest of the Black entertainment industry. They constantly either subtly or very directly say derrogatory things about other races, yet noone has ever boycotted them or made a huge media frenzy enough for one of them to lose a job over. They say and do things 100x's worse than just uttering "nappy ho's", yet they grace the front of magazines, sell millions of records, and are filthy rich. Why the double standard?

If you're stupid, you're stupid....not white stupid or black stupid.....just stupid. Point is that when you advertise yourself as "do as I say, not as I do" then don't be surprised when that logic backfires on you.



I'm still proud of you for putting a very coherent, all be it wrong , post. That's my boy Jerel......

[william_jeff]

imus should have filtered his mouth point blank end of story. if he did he would still have his job, fucking elephant man look a like

[Nemesis]

was that really called for?

YES

[BLK JDM]

While I may have played a dumb puppet at Mahdavi-I am very far from that. Remember I did go to Clemson for 2 years w/ a major in Mechanical Engineering and a minor in Political Science.

If I didn't have such a harsh(yes harsh) love for cars I'd definitely gone Political Science as my major at NYU.

Jaime whether it be a double standard or not I guarantee you-IT WAS WRONG IN MORE LIGHTS THAN RIGHT. Just because we are in a world where sex, drugs, violence, racism, sexism, and lack of values rule-does it make it right?

Charles Barkley, Kanye West, and Spike Lee are stars because of the boisterous things they say and do. They are not stars because of eloquence and ethics. The people that pay for their fame pay them to be general asswholes through and through. CNBC/MSNBC paid Imus to be an asswhole but WITH BOUNDARIES AND LIMITATIONS.

My point is not whether it was raciest or sexist because I'm biased and I don't run those corporations. But I guarantee you that there are very strong guidelines in his contract or the employee handbook that limit his freedom of speech. I know my employee handbook limits alot more than speech. Shit at my last job I didn't have an employee handbook but there was a lot more that was limited-not just speech and opinion. Most people know their boundaries when at work. I guarantee you he knew what he could and couldn't say. Whether it was a mistake or planned-it cost him his job. There are plenty of people in this world that lost their career because of a mistake or bad comment that wasn't excused. His was just brought out in the open.

Like Howard Stern he'll definitely get picked up by another station w/ looser values and restrictions and probably get a longer contract w/ more money.

[william_jeff]

While I may have played a dumb puppet at Mahdavi-I am very far from that. Remember I did go to Clemson for 2 years w/ a major in Mechanical Engineering and a minor in Political Science.

If I didn't have such a harsh(yes harsh) love for cars I'd definitely gone Political Science as my major at NYU.

Jaime whether it be a double standard or not I guarantee you-IT WAS WRONG IN MORE LIGHTS THAN RIGHT. Just because we are in a world where sex, drugs, violence, racism, sexism, and lack of values rule-does it make it right?

Charles Barkley, Kanye West, and Spike Lee are stars because of the boisterous things they say and do. They are not stars because of eloquence and ethics. The people that pay for their fame pay them to be general asswholes through and through. CNBC/MSNBC paid Imus to be an asswhole but WITH BOUNDARIES AND LIMITATIONS.

My point is not whether it was raciest or sexist because I'm biased and I don't run those corporations. But I guarantee you that there are very strong guidelines in his contract or the employee handbook that limit his freedom of speech. I know my employee handbook limits alot more than speech. Shit at my last job I didn't have an employee handbook but there was a lot more that was limited-not just speech and opinion. Most people know their boundaries when at work. I guarantee you he knew what he could and couldn't say. Whether it was a mistake or planned-it cost him his job. There are plenty of people in this world that lost their career because of a mistake or bad comment that wasn't excused. His was just brought out in the open.

Like Howard Stern he'll definitely get picked up by another station w/ looser values and restrictions and probably get a longer contract w/ more money.

+1

but why does jdm have to be black

[Kamikaze]

It's a double standard. Look at Charles Barkley, Spike Lee, Kanye West, and the rest of the Black entertainment industry.

Generalize much?

[BLK JDM]

+1

but why does jdm have to be black

Well actually my hatch was JDM'd out but it was white. How ironic. I'm black and I was(and probably still am) a JDM whore. Just don't have anything to JDM out. I don't know how to JDM out a 99 Tahoe.