Bush on 60mins last night...

[HEATON]

its simple freedom that this country was based upon, is why listening in on people is not right.

so i dont do anything wrong, but i would rather the govt stay out of my personal business. i mean they already listen in enough with it being illegal

Sorry If i was missunderstood.. What I was trhing to say was they WONT listen if you HAVE NOT done anything WRONG.. So since you said, you havent don't anything wrong, they wouldnt listen to you. Make more sence now? Sorry for the mix up. I mean you have to admit, that it would suck if another incident happened, but could have been stopped.. Only thing is The Govt knew they were planning something, but could never find out when or where, bc they couldn't hear their phone convos.

[Tasuki_Civic]

Well in all reality, he is to blame cause he is the HNIC!! But he was going by information supplied to him, so it was a cluster fuck all the way around

[Crazy Asian]

whats hnic...

[HEATON]

Head Nigga In Charge.. I heard it from the movie Lean On Me with Morgan Freeman, but its prob been around before that.

[Ran]

That is part of the petition currently in circulation.

lol @ another useless petition. Do these little things seriously make people sleep better at night?

Trust me, Id much rather stay out of the states, I get tired of seeing people waste their freedoms until they are pushed or afringed on and then they start bitching...

I can't wait to leave this country and swap citizenship.

[HEATON]

lol @ another useless petition. Do these little things seriously make people sleep better at night?

I can't wait to leave this country and swap citizenship.

I think petitions only work at schools and maybe in Mayberry..

Well I'll never change my citizenship, but I must admit, living out of the states is kinda nice. Guess I just have a different mindset and hate dealing with all the BS, people put up with and cause. I like ''no nonsense areas''.

[StupidBikerBoy]

Sorry If i was missunderstood.. What I was trhing to say was they WONT listen if you HAVE NOT done anything WRONG.. So since you said, you havent don't anything wrong, they wouldnt listen to you. Make more sence now? Sorry for the mix up. I mean you have to admit, that it would suck if another incident happened, but could have been stopped.. Only thing is The Govt knew they were planning something, but could never find out when or where, bc they couldn't hear their phone convos.

While I can see why they are doing it, but it's still not right. They can do it as they please now, that is the issue. There is NO excuse for circumventing due process of the law, which is what the patriot act does.

[StupidBikerBoy]

Again, if you had a commitee of people telling you there are WMD's that's all you have to go on. Lets not forget the president has a group of advisers, who obtain information from the CIA, and other organizations. He doesn't know a damn thing unless someone tells him something. He is briefed daily on 100's of subjects. There is no way for him to know everything about everything. It's not possible.

Yes, but he is responsible for them. Anyone in here that has ever been a personel manager should understand this.

Besides, if he was acting under the advice of anyone in his commitee it will be documented and he should pass on the blame to them.

[StupidBikerBoy]

My issue with Bush is that he lied to the american people, plain and simple. He told us there was WMD's without already having proof. Why would anyone want a president that is not even smart enough to cover all the bases before dedicating they lives of our servicemen? And Ironically, they are usually the first to back him. I realize this can be debated until the end of time, but it's my opinion.

Also, It irritates me that Bush can lie to us and admit it without consequence, yet Clinton was impeached for lying about a blow job. Bush's lie resulted in thousands of deaths to our men. Clinton's lie made an ugly bitch famous. His personal life has nothing to do with this country and should have never been in the media.

As far as Iraq, I was for the liberation of it, but we should have never tried to occupy it and the administration should have been honest about what they "knew".

This countries problems with politicians started when we allowed them to manipulate thier own income. Now its all about greed, whereas when this country was founded it was about freedom.

/rant