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    Just reminds us how out of date Russian technology is compared to the rest of the world....I think Africa has a ICBM now





    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    Might be a silly question, but can anyone explain why it wouldnt benefit us for russia to envade ukraine?
    Russia has a old everlasting beef with Poland and the polish have implied if Russia breaks Ukraine borders to the North it will attack.

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    [QUOTE=Sinfix_15;39535509]
    Call me crazy...... but i dont see russia or any other country rolling up on our beaches anytime soon.[QUOTE]

    It happened in Call of Duty, Modern Warfare 3......


    oh wait...
    I got free clear tails with my ride.....

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    I wonder what the UN would say if Putin drone striked a few people in Ukraine?


    Can you only do that if you have a peace prize?

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    Russia will sanction the mail order brides,Vodka and Child porn

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    Quote Originally Posted by -EnVus- View Post
    Russia will sanction the mail order brides,Vodka and Child porn
    So it's to be WWW III then...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Echonova View Post
    So it's to be WWW III then...
    If you ever seen the Christian movie Megiddo: The Omega Code 2 you see the Apocalypse is rained in by Russia and Middle eastern country like Syria fighting NATO and United states.
    I was bored one night and actually watched the movie and it wasnt all that bad but now all i think of is it with current events.
    Russia has shown it is scared of sanctions from crying threats once it was mentioned. Yes they could be but hurt if the US did it but cant afford for the EU to and that scares them.

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    The issue with sanctions is that if they are too weak, they do nothing. If hey are too strict, they could be a catalyst for full scale war.

    A VERY simplified history lesson. Before WW2, Japan wanted to keep the US out of the war in the Pacific. It wasnt until we fully cut them off from steel shipments that they saw us as taking sides and as a possible aggressor. At that point, they decided to act first. We all know what happened after that.


    In the case of Russia, too strict of sanctions could easily give Putin the leverage he needs to move west, all the way to Poland, or Germany if he wants to. I dont think NATO could do anything more than give him a bloody nose at this point either.

    Side note: If the US gets too involved in a war n a buildup in Europe, Taiwan will likely come under attack from China. S. Korea will likely be attacked by the North. You can expect Al Queda to step up attacks all over the middle East. Iran will likely put their strength into an attack on Israel.


    Those of you that hate US involvement overseas, this is just a small idea of how many regions stay pretty much peaceful only because of a US presence. Like it or hate it, the US is a stabilizing force wherever it goes, even in areas it is waging war.

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    I know this story has been put on the back burner... But OOHHHHH HHHAAAAIIIIIIII


    Crimeans vote to leave Ukraine, join Russia - Yahoo News

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    Quote Originally Posted by Echonova View Post
    I know this story has been put on the back burner... But OOHHHHH HHHAAAAIIIIIIII


    Crimeans vote to leave Ukraine, join Russia - Yahoo News
    Excellent! The democratic solution that Obama wanted.

    We should send support to Russia to defend democracy in Crimea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Echonova View Post
    I know this story has been put on the back burner... But OOHHHHH HHHAAAAIIIIIIII


    Crimeans vote to leave Ukraine, join Russia - Yahoo News
    Issue is now the other bandwagon followers will cause what war didnt happen yet to come sooner. I read this BS also...

    In Donetsk, one of the main cities in eastern Ukraine, pro-Russia demonstrators called Sunday for a referendum similar to the one in Crimea
    AOL.com Article - Crimeans overwhelmingly vote for secession

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    Our government backed terrorists in syria. We backed terrorists in egypt and now we back terrorists in ukraine.

    Obama kept his promise.... the war AGAINST terror did end, and we started financing it.

    Democracy happened in crimea...... if the US gets involved, then true colors will be revealed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    Nice unbiased article.


    Its pretty well known that the Crimea is pro Russian, but you cant really hold a vote and gun point and call it legitimate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy View Post
    Nice unbiased article.


    Its pretty well known that the Crimea is pro Russian, but you cant really hold a vote and gun point and call it legitimate.
    Ukraine is the one holding people at gun point. Its ukraine dressing up like the fucking dark side of the force and ruling their streets with an iron fist. Are you really surpised that the people dont support the fascist gov of ukraine? If anything, Putin protected voters. How many Russian shots fired????

    Since when did Obama care about voter intimidation or the integrity of elections??????????

    That article is spot on.
    Last edited by Sinfix_15; 03-17-2014 at 07:01 PM.

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    So lets see Russia has pissed off everyone but the Muslim world oh wait....Never mind
    Tatar Sunni Muslims pose a threat to Russia's occupation of Crimea | World news | theguardian.com

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    Hey.


    Hey!!!


    HEY!!!!



    Obama is on it.



    By executive order he seized 7... Yes 7 of Putins advisers over-seas bank accounts.



    TAKE THAT COMMIE PIGS!!!!!! BBBBBBHHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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    Quote Originally Posted by -EnVus- View Post
    So lets see Russia has pissed off everyone but the Muslim world oh wait....Never mind
    Tatar Sunni Muslims pose a threat to Russia's occupation of Crimea | World news | theguardian.com
    Muslims oppose anyone occupying any space. Islam in a man is like rabies in a dog.

    I guess that helps me to understand the community organizer's interest in the ukraine. He must be hoping for the islam disease to spread there. He also gets to sanction a major energy supplier. The dreams of his father..
    Last edited by Sinfix_15; 03-18-2014 at 08:10 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Echonova View Post
    Hey.


    Hey!!!


    HEY!!!!



    Obama is on it.



    By executive order he seized 7... Yes 7 of Putins advisers over-seas bank accounts.



    TAKE THAT COMMIE PIGS!!!!!! BBBBBBHHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
    That oughta teach 'em. What a joke.

    President no-nuts motto: Speak loudly and carry a wet noodle.

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    I have never seen a mid-level goon openly mock our President before... And on Twitter no less.

    This was the kindest version of the story to our dear El Presidente I could find.
    Russian Deputy PM Laughs at Obama’s Sanctions - ABC News


    On the upside Obama has indeed "reset relations" with the Russians just as he promised. Check that one off the list.

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    As I have said before, I spend more time reading comments than I do articles these days. They are quite amusing and really do show off the ignorance of them American electorate.

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    In my eyes things are about to take a quick turn for the worst with EU adopting the UK. I know watching from history that Russia has all the influence and eyes on Ukraine and have said they will NEVER allow a western intervention. The EU has wanted UK to join its region of power since the late 90's and Russia has threaten already war if this happens. Also in the News is Poland wanting a faster measure from the United States to build the Self deffense sites in its country. We all know what Russia has said would happen it these are built and it had the word ICBM involved.

    "Crimea goes east, Ukraine goes west in 2 new deals"
    AOL.com Article - Crimea goes east, Ukraine goes west in 2 new deals

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    This whole thing is really degrading fast. You can also add the new maneuvers Russia is running along the border with Estonia. They claim to fear for the Russian nationals there now.


    The similarities between Russia's actions now and those of Germany in the run up to WW2 are amazing.

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    Put yourself in Putin's shoes...


    Who in this world is going to stop you?

    France? Nope.

    Great Britain? Love the Brits but no

    Switzerland? Hahahahahaha

    Spain? Hell no

    United States? Bitch please, we can't even fix a website. How are we going to take on an entire country? Even if we weren't 17 trillion dollars in debt and could afford another war, President limp-wrist doesn't have the balls.

    China? No. We should be worried that China doesn't take Putin up on his 2008 offer to collaborate and collapse our economy. Because that would take all of three days and never waste a bullet.

    Iran? They want the 12 Imam, they ain't stopping shit even if they could.

    Israel? They got enough problems on their own. Plus Obama and his administration hasn't exactly been friendly to them. Hell our beloved John Kerry's source of wealth (that he married into) is behind a boycott of Israel... While he is our Secretary of State.

    Mexico? There are no tortillas or free government services for illegals in Ukraine. No care.

    Canada? They might be the world's last best hope.

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    This just in... Shots fired at a Ukrainian Air Base.

    Shots fired at Ukrainian base in Crimea - Yahoo News

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    Quote Originally Posted by Echonova View Post
    Put yourself in Putin's shoes...


    Who in this world is going to stop you?

    France? Nope.

    Great Britain? Love the Brits but no

    Switzerland? Hahahahahaha

    Spain? Hell no

    United States? Bitch please, we can't even fix a website. How are we going to take on an entire country? Even if we weren't 17 trillion dollars in debt and could afford another war, President limp-wrist doesn't have the balls.

    China? No. We should be worried that China doesn't take Putin up on his 2008 offer to collaborate and collapse our economy. Because that would take all of three days and never waste a bullet.

    Iran? They want the 12 Imam, they ain't stopping shit even if they could.

    Israel? They got enough problems on their own. Plus Obama and his administration hasn't exactly been friendly to them. Hell our beloved John Kerry's source of wealth (that he married into) is behind a boycott of Israel... While he is our Secretary of State.

    Mexico? There are no tortillas or free government services for illegals in Ukraine. No care.

    Canada? They might be the world's last best hope.
    I dont understand WHY he should be stopped.

    Putin is helping citizens overthrow a fascist government... with the support of citizens.

    Im jealous.......

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    The same army and riot police thst have been killing citizens are now cowering in fear at a russian army who is for the most part peacefully evicting them.

    Best thing the US can do is STFU and enjoy the show.

    Our government is wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    I dont understand WHY he should be stopped.

    Putin is helping citizens overthrow a fascist government... with the support of citizens.

    Im jealous.......
    Did you say the same thing when Georgia was invaded?

    How about when he does the same thing in Estonia?


    You are right in the fact that most of Crimea wants to be part of Russia and the ballot probably would have shown that before Russian forces went in. That doesnt give any further legitimacy to the vote AFTER they went in though.



    A separate point.

    Obama has had a pretty easy presidency to this point with very few non self inflicted crisis. This one changes all that. As rough as Bush's presidency was, this single crisis could easily trump everything Bush had to go through. Hell, this could be the diciest foreign relations situation since WW2, and if handled badly by any of a dozen govts or millions of citizens it could easily spark WW3, or at least another European war.

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    Obama can get a pass because it's Ukraine. As sad as that is to say.


    Estonia, is a member of NATO... And another matter entirely. I know there is this "OMG let's get Ukraine into NATO" push. But that's just pillow talk for Ukraine to get used to their new Russian mail-order bride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Echonova View Post
    Obama can get a pass because it's Ukraine. As sad as that is to say.


    Estonia, is a member of NATO... And another matter entirely. I know there is this "OMG let's get Ukraine into NATO" push. But that's just pillow talk for Ukraine to get used to their new Russian mail-order bride.
    He hasnt made the big blunder yet, and I agree, Ukraine is not a NATO member and therefore not nearly as significant as Estonia which has been a NATO member since 2004.

    As I said though, it wont take much for this entire powder keg to go up. The wrong Ukrainian soldier getting pushed too far. The Russians taking over a base getting a little too rough. The possibilities really are endless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy View Post
    The possibilities really are endless.
    Indeed my friend... Indeed.

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    BBC News - Deadly clashes at Ukraine port base as leaders meet

    My favorite line from the whole article.

    Reports say that the White House is considering a package of non-lethal aid for the Ukrainian military. This may include clothing and medical supplies.
    Such support
    Much power
    Wow

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    Leaflet tells Jews to register in East Ukraine


    This is the real story.

    I mean, what good is an invasion without a little ethnic cleansing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy View Post
    Leaflet tells Jews to register in East Ukraine


    This is the real story.

    I mean, what good is an invasion without a little ethnic cleansing?
    So registration is a means of eradication? Interesting...... tell me more.


    Leftist in the united states want a racial cleanse too, theyre just more discreet with thier approach. Well.... some of them are discreet

    Its all hilarious to me. The funniest part of it alll is how a government as revolting as ours still feels morally superior enough to police the world.
    Last edited by Sinfix_15; 04-17-2014 at 06:39 PM.

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    Even if Obama won't intervene... Putin has been put on notice.


    Portugal Launches Naval Drone, Immediately Crashes It

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy View Post
    Leaflet tells Jews to register in East Ukraine


    This is the real story.

    I mean, what good is an invasion without a little ethnic cleansing?
    Propaganda. Provocation. Nothing more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    So registration is a means of eradication?
    No.

    Leftist
    LEAFLET. The article says "leaflet" it has absolutely nothing to do with "leftists"

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    No.



    LEAFLET. The article says "leaflet" it has absolutely nothing to do with "leftists"
    Really guy???......

    i said what i meant to say, if youre confused by it, im sorry.

    We have a racial crusade going on in the US by LEFTISTS. Worry about that and not Russian chest beating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    Propaganda. Provocation. Nothing more.
    I find it hard to believe publications like usatoday would be throwing out info like that if it wasn't at least partially corroborated.

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