If meaningful legislation has the publics support and is passed and you refuse to register the NEW weapons (remember civics 101 laws are NOT retroactive) then yes, you should be punished accordinglyOriginally Posted by Sinfix_15
If meaningful legislation has the publics support and is passed and you refuse to register the NEW weapons (remember civics 101 laws are NOT retroactive) then yes, you should be punished accordingly
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Understood. Im not digging back into the previous bill. Its called "the safe communities safe schools act" if you want to look for yourself.
We'll talk about the next bill when it drops, even though gun legislation is a part of nearly every bill from healthcare to tax code.... even environmental. EPA is going after ammo companies now.
Whats wrong with having a silencer? I have one... am i more likely to be a criminal?
Question: what makes a rifle more lethal, a silencer or a scope?
Neither, if it looks scary than it's the most deadly.
Youre joking...... but thats 100% correct. Look at ny's gun laws.... pistol grips are illegal.Neither, if it looks scary than it's the most deadly.
You see the new legal (for now) ar15?
This shit is a joke. How anyone supports this insane bullshit is beyond me.....
I dont believe people who dont want to go through the CCW permit process should own a Silencer, that is correct
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There should be two requirements for owning a silencer.
1: the desire to have a more quiet gun.
2: the money to pay for it.
You want one? Ill make it for you. Pretty effortless for anyone who has access to a machine shop.
youre going in tangents. We have laws on the books already, i was merely explaining my "ban" comment. Currently, Silencers arent "banned" they just require a tax stamp and application process.
That should stay the same.
We already agree that we differ on this issue , you think everything should be legal, complete drug open market, complete arms open market. I dont share that view.
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The reason drug cartels have machine guns and mules is because your government spends billions trying to stop them from using the UPS truck. That make you feel safer?
The most dangerous drugs on the street can be found at your local pharmacy.
Why is cocaine illegal? Weed?
Compare the side effects to birth control or viagra.
Perception over reality..... just like guns.
THERE IS NO LEGISLATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Really, what does it take to get it through that thick skull of yours?
Nothing that has been proposed or even talked about in regards to registration is something I would support. I dont even support registration in the literal sense. I support all gun transactions go through an FFL, thats all.
To take it a step further, I would support legislation that requires the reporting of any lost or stolen firearm within 24 hours of discovery.
You talked about blue states confiscating weapons, I am ok with the STATE confiscating weapons from people who purchased them legally, but became ineligible to own a firearm. I would make 2 changes to the law California though. First, guns should be able to be transferred to someone legally allowed to own a firearm via a limited power or attorney. This POA should give the designee authority to sell any weapons and ammo to an FFL. Second, anyone who has their guns confiscated for mental health reasons should be allowed a hearing in which a judge makes a decision based on testimony from doctors.
These are the requirements for one now.
I like you Jimmy. I admire your faith in the process, but i do not share it.
Tangent. Not at all what i said. Weed grows in the wild, its not going to kill you.
Cocaine does, Im not in favor of legalizing hard drugs that cause people to become insanely addicted and destroy their lives. I do not feel that Marijuana causes the same effects as using cocaine or heroin.
Require prescriptions and a doctors consent.The most dangerous drugs on the street can be found at your local pharmacy.
YOu just kind of made my argument for me, I believe we trust people like gun store owners to use the FFL system to sell weapons, i just ask for the same common sense policy on used weapons.
You say that in general the population is stupid and easily swayed by opinions, yet you advocate for these "idiots" to arm up and get hooked on smack. Kinda dangerous dont you think?
COMMON SENSE.
Advocating for legalization of weed is one thing, no one is talking about cocaine or crack.
Advocating for responsible gun ownership is on thing, all out warfare and believing in conspiracy theories is another
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OCocaine grows in the wild too. Locals have been chewing it for 100s of years, animals eat it too. What are the side affects for moderate cocaine use?
Who cares if drug addicts kill themselves??? I dont. How many times have you seen a crackhead rob a store with a full auto assault rifle? They usually rob a waffle house with a power ranger stuffed in a tube sock. If they had an ar15 they would pawn it for crack.
Remember that one time when all them crack heads armed up, organized and enslaved a portion of the population? Oh wait.... government.
COMMON SENSE... you cant save people from themselves. Quit trying..... make the world a better and more entertaining place and maybe kids will quit smoking, drinking, shooting up, sniffing paint.. eating mudhrooms.. ect ect... people even huff from bags of shit to get high...
Why try to save someone from themselves?
The only truth in this world is darwinism. Let it happen.....
Whether you agree with me or not.... its not the federal governments job to enforce mine or your morality.
im not even talking about morality though, im talking about simply FOLLOWING THE SAME SET OF RULES FOR BOTH TYPES OF SALES. THATS IT
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Not hardly.
Why? One complies because they have to as a condition of operating a business. Why should an individual have to meet this requirement?
Should you have to have a liquor license to mix a pina colada in your kitchen?
Make sure to get your kitchen health inspected before you make dinner tonight.
Same set of rules for you and mcdonalds.
COMMON SENSE.
Now we are comparing mcdonalds to guns. Brilliant.
Hey if you buy a hamburger from mcdonalds and turn around and try to sell it to someone else, YES health inspectors would come down on you. They dont have the manpower to police it, but its the same as the guy selling 20 cars a year, its illegal, but , they dont have the manpower to police it.
Guns i treat differently than Big Macs, sorry
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On a scale of 1-10 how frustrating is this?
Bigmacs kill more people than guns.
Priorities my friend.
Cars are required to be registered, new or used, doesnt matter. One is a business, one is a personal sale, but both are required to be registered.
Your analogy is completely wrong.
Business needs a liquor license to SELL alcohol, but a consumer need only be 21. You dont need a liquor license to make a drink you need it to SELL a drink for profit.
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a 0 because I knew this would happen, we know each other too well
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HA! Maybe the deaths are more COSTLY, but im not trying to STOP deaths via guns, im trying to have people have clear concise ownership so in the event of a crime, law enforcement is able to do their jobs more effectively. Thats it. Im not trying to prevent crime, im trying to catch criminals more efficiently POST crime
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Not true. You do not have to register a used car unless you intend to use it on a public road.
Not my problem. An easy day at work is not a constitutional right.
If police want thier job to be easier, quit and open a blockbuster video.
In the brief "united states experiment" , looser gun laws has reduced crime rates. Irony..
also not true, GA law states any car must be registered regardless of use
Youre thinking of insurance, cars dont require insurance unless driven on a public roadGeorgia law requires that motor vehicle owners must register their vehicle with the Georgia Department of Driver Services before taking it on the road. Both new and second-hand vehicles must be registered, regardless of whether they are purchased from a dealer or an individual. In addition, new Georgia residents who have registered their vehicle in another state must register their vehicle in Georgia. The initial vehicle registration must be done in person, and registration renewals must be done annually, either in person, online or by mail.
If you are a new resident, you must register your vehicle within 30 days from the date you have established residency in Georgia. For Georgia residents, registration must be carried out within 30 days from the date of purchase.
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So youre in favor of no laws, whatsoever then?
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A vehicle that is not used on a public roadway does not need to be registered.
No laws > too many laws.
Anarchy isnt at the top or bottom of my list.
False. I can drive my unregistered vehicle on private property....
IE race track, drag strip, hunting land, parks, mud bog, rock climb, unmarked trail, my back yard...
How many tags do you see at the race track?
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Sounds like we found common ground. "Guns should be just like cars." As long as im defending my private property, no need to register. If i ever decide to become a cop and defend public property, ill gladly register the weapon i use to do that.
Does it vary by county?? I've had cats ticketed for not being registered but in my driveway?
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Cops arent lawyers, their actions often go unquestioned if you yourself dont question them. Think a court is gonna reject a payment?
I would have asked the cop to leave my property.
As long as they were in the driveway and not parked on the street they should not have been ticketed.
No, it doesnt vary either, its state law.
Sin, if you actually do favor anarchy and are not just trolling you are dumber than I ever thought. Its obvious you have no clue what lawlessness really is.
The laws we have on the books now are insufficient for todays world. Not in the their number, as we have more than enough laws and they are already far too complex. They are insufficient in their content.
No you wouldnt.
Yes i would.
I feel my answer was pretty straight forward. I dont recall endorsing anarchy.
Ill take anarchy over communism. The rule of law exists without police stations. Humanity isnt something dispensed by your government. Is the law the only thing stopping you from murdering or raping someone?
Humanity created law. An absense of law enforcement is not an absence of law.
Do you feel law abiding citizens are out numbered and out gunned by criminals? If not... what are you scared of?
You know who should fear anarchy the most?
A criminal. Otherwise who would protect them?
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