Florida drug tests for welfare law is struck down

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I agree with you man. I agree with what you told me because you learned about scientific data collection, margin of error, level of confidence. you're smart and you told me and i'm hoping to be told i'm smart if i agree with you. Nothing manufactured about that.

Now you're gettin it.

[Browning151]

I lirl at this thread. Blank deserves the troll of the month award, no way you can possibly believe all the nonsensical bull you say.

[D3UC3S]

He really does and it blows my mind as well...

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LMAO

If survey data collection is nonsensical bull, then prove me wrong and quit making little dumbass quips about it. LOL

Phone surveys are a research industry approved method of collecting data. There's no debate about it. Either prove me wrong and all these other research firms wrong, or shut up and stop trying to bump your post counts up

HURR DURR TELEPHONE BLAH BLAH BLAH SURVEYS OBAMA

[D3UC3S]

Lol post count...5k in 11 years vs. 12k in 7 years.

We are not debating the fact that SOME phone surveys can be legit. We are debating that you can get a factual number of illegal drug users among people receiving welfare. No one is gonna tell on themselves to plug the flow of free money to their freeloading pockets. THAT is common sense.

No need to resort to name calling because we are showing the flaws in your logic.

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Finally a half assed attempt

Lol post count...5k in 11 years vs. 12k in 7 years.

We are not debating the fact that SOME phone surveys can be legit.

Hmm. We went from blanks a moron to "some". Interesting.

We are debating that you can get a factual number of illegal drug users among people receiving welfare. No one is gonna tell on themselves to plug the flow of free money to their freeloading pockets. THAT is common sense.

No need to resort to name calling because we are showing the flaws in your logic.

we're not talking about a small amount of welfare recipients, who until recently we'rent in jeopardy by revealing that information. We're talking about a survey of the general population that showed there was no correlation between drug use and income.

You can try to point out the flaws in my logic, but no ones even tried yet. Just a bunch of "YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE THAT? SHOCKING HURR DURR COMMON SENSE"

Just show me the margin of error and level of confidence between various methods of data collection. That's ALL YOU GOTTA DO.

[D3UC3S]

SMH....what's so interesting about something we weren't debating....


When I say we, I mean me and you. I speak for myself, not the group.

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Dunno, y'all tell me. Y'all are the ones that are so perplexed about it. Not me. Lol

[Vteckidd]

Maybe you should do yourselves a favor and learn about data collection, surveys, methodology, margin of error, etc.

ahh the patented "Im smarter than everyone else" excuse.

No wonder hes an Obama slave, he thinks just like Obama.

[Echonova]

I shit smarter things than everyone in this thread. Take a phone survey and find out it's true for yourselves.

[D3UC3S]

You must be a real smart ass......hehe


Get it....cuz your shit is...no....*crickets*

[Echonova]

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ahh the patented "Im smarter than everyone else" excuse.

No wonder hes an Obama slave, he thinks just like Obama.

Or don't. Makes no difference to me.

[Echonova]

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Particles can't float. That's just common sense

[Vteckidd]

Says he needs peer reviewed evidence to suggest that Poor people are more prone to drug use

receives it

Claims its not as credible as a phone survey

Scumbag Blank

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Just show that little chart of yours to that judge, maybe he'll reverse his decision. I'm sure he'd love to see this study on workplace drug programs and their effectiveness.


LULZ

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Lets pretend this forum is a conference call.

Everyone on the line thinks you're a moron.

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Lets pretend this forum is a conference call.

Everyone on the line thinks you're a moron.

I don't doubt that for a minute.

That just reveals a lot more about everyone else on the line. LOL

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"We don't like data that goes against our beliefs. So we'll present a totally unrelated study to imply what we believe"

[Vteckidd]

"We don't like data that goes against our beliefs. So we'll present a totally unrelated study to imply what we believe"

So, a study that shows different income levels and who is prone to drug use , has no correlation to people who are on welfare looking for a job who ............are poor...........and may use drugs...............

Your degree must be in Shitforbrains 101

Seriously, you made a broad statement, that the Judge thinks there is no correlation to income and drug use, a Government study shows that is FALSE. There is a correlation between ADMITTED drug users and how much money they make.

One would be able to deduce with a brilliant mind such as yourself, that people on welfare make less than 20k a year and therefore, could be more at risk. But I Digress, that takes critical thinking, something you are not capable of.

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"Blank Heres peer reviewed government evidence that suggests poor people buy more drugs than rich people"



"What, you don't accept it? You're a moron."

[Vteckidd]

"We don't like data that goes against our beliefs. So we'll present a totally unrelated study to imply what we believe"

Substance Use Among Persons in Families Receiving Government Assistance

Prevalence of past month heavy alcohol use was lower in assisted families than in unassisted families among persons aged 18 to 25, but higher among persons aged 35 to 49

Past month illicit drug use was higher in assisted families than in unassisted families among persons aged 12 to 64

Want more?

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Substance Use Among Persons in Families Receiving Government Assistance



Want more?

You're getting a little warmer. Not quite there yet though...

[Vteckidd]

"Blank Heres peer reviewed government evidence that suggests poor people buy more drugs than rich people"

Lack of critical thinking. I never talked about PURCHASING drugs, I talked about using drugs.

That study, and another, both show there is evidence that poorer people use drugs MORE than anyone else. I mean, its results, its not even debatable. Its a survey, whose findings are just as relevant as your phone survey.

So your blanket statement was FALSE.

[Vteckidd]

You're getting a little warmer. Not quite there yet though...

Blank "Im smarter than you post #10934983989"

[Vteckidd]

BLank=

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Blank "Im smarter than you post #10934983989"

And you're the one who keeps posting relatively unrelated conclusions as causation.

Keep going. You'll get there eventually.

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How bout this one. This is close..

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Oh, I forgot, you can't use survey data collected by telephone, or anything with a similar margin of error and level of confidence. Everyone knows that. It's common sense.

[Vteckidd]

What studies will you accept. Anything that you find?

At this point its not even arguing, its passing time to me.

I know your MO, you disqualify anything that anyone posts that proves you wrong, and question everyones intent and motives to make yourself feel like you are right. Its what people with low self esteem do :P

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I'll accept anything that meets those criterion. The same criterion which you so generously laid out for me. The same method of evidence you'd use in any university, just no phone, mail, or online surveys.

You said there is evidence that directly disputes what the judge said. All you gotta do is find it. You haven't shown it yet. I'm sure it's out there since you said it is.

[Vteckidd]

The same method of evidence you'd use in any university, just no phone, mail, or online surveys.

You said there is evidence that directly disputes what the judge said. All you gotta do is find it. You haven't shown it yet. I'm sure it's out there since you said it is.

I combatted your phone survey with my own scientific phone survey, from not 1, but 2 sources.

You guys don't have to believe telephone surveys are accurate if you don't want to. That's your prerogative. But the rest of the scientific community does, so...

How is that not acceptable? I think you are confused, are telephone surveys acceptable, or not?

If they are, then I provided you 2 studies that prove there is a link and the judge is wrong.

If you do no accept them, then the data presented in your OG link is false and not relevant.

Either way, you lose. Its called boxing your opposition into a corner, i do it all the time. You should recognize it more

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All that effort and still didn't find anything?

[Vteckidd]

All that effort and still didn't find anything?

your phone survey is accepted, but mine is not.

got it

So i guess Polls arent accepted, etc etc

I think you also lost focus on the argument, you used a phone survey to be infallible and no one could question it. We said that phone surveys are not exactly 100% gods honest truth, can be skewed and misleading.

You said not possible, and its accepted by the scientific community. So, I posted the same surveys with contradicting data. You now say its not acceptable.

try to keep up

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I don't doubt that for a minute.

That just reveals a lot more about everyone else on the line. LOL

I did a telephone survey. You cant dispute the scientific evidence of people answering over the phone.

[Vteckidd]

I did a telephone survey. You cant dispute the scientific evidence of people answering over the phone.

unless he does the survey, then is infallible

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I don't doubt that for a minute.

That just reveals a lot more about everyone else on the line. LOL

So when inner city african americans were polled about drug use in their towns and they said white people were the problem, did that reveal a lot more about everyone on the line? Did it reveal a culture of excuse making and racism? A culture that is bitter towards other races and condition to pass blame and never take responsibility?

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Blankcd ladies and gentleman............. a man who believes white privilege is actually a thing and that phone surveys are scientific evidence.



It's ok blank.... i honestly feel that under your bizarre and radical political views that there is a good person that will one day rejoin reality with the rest of us.

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Man. If y'all put this much energy into finding the information y'all are looking for, we could make some progress.