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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    Network has the freedom to do what they feel is in their best interest. With that said........ I wish these faggots would quit being such faggots.
    My sister is gay and I LOLed

    A&E has every right to fire him. Private company.

    But what he said wasnt hate speech. He said he didnt agree with gay marriage. Being gay isnt a civil right, its a sexual preference, like saying "i like blue over red".

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    In law, hate speech is any speech, gesture or conduct, writing, or display which is forbidden because it may incite violence or prejudicial action against or by a protected individual or group, or because it disparages or intimidates a protected individual or group.

    “It seems like, to me, a vagina—as a man—would be more desirable than a man’s anus. That’s just me. I’m just thinking: There’s more there! She’s got more to offer. I mean, come on, dudes! You know what I’m saying? But hey, sin: It’s not logical, my man. It’s just not logical.”
    Nothing he said is remotely hate speech. I mean its not even close. IF you think it is, then I can have a case against some of the things you have said on here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    You don't have to be pro-gay rights if you don't want to. But the trend (and the natural progression of civilized society) is moving towards gay rights. A&E, as a corporation, has a right to protect their brand and their image. If I had a show on the Disney channel and I went and ran my mouth about how black skin is is the mark of sin or evil, I should probably expect to be fired.

    Robertson doesn't give two shits about what A&E did, why do y'all? Something tells me he's going to be ok.

    I know it's not what y'all want to hear, I know it doesn't touch your rage nerve, but it's reality. Deal with it. And stop hiding behind "it's the sin, not the sinner" bullshit. It's old
    First of all, Gays have rights, Gays are not losing ANY CIVIL RIGHTS.

    Tell me where a Gay Person has less rights.

    Name 1.

    Being gay isnt a civil rights issue, god damnit. Its not a CIVIL RIGHT TO BE GAY.
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    The problem is this, the Robertson's are a Christian Bible believing family. They do not hide this on the show or in their personal lives. Every single episode ends with some form of prayer ( which I am sure that folks like Bill Maher ) find offensive or ridiculous. Would it be rational if there was an outcry from the atheist community with them arguing that Duck Dynasty is offensive to them and they demand an apology or the show should be canceled because the Robertson clan believes those who do not accept Jesus or believe in God will go to hell? Phil did not express any of these beliefs on the show nor did he promote any kind of anti-gay agenda in any episode. He conducted an interview with a magazine and stated his own personal beliefs ( guaranteed by the Constitution and Bill of Rights . If he gets fired i am most certain that the Robertson family will do just fine with out A&E...in fact, if they took the low road like the LGBT community and fussed enough, they might actually have a civil law suit for discrimination on religious grounds.
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    i'd be doing a suit if i were him, but i guess if the family is still up for it and brings in extra money for the family, i guess it's cool, but it's just ignorant to suspend/fire him for his own beliefs. he has beliefs just like the gays have beliefs



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    Quote Originally Posted by Sammich View Post
    i'd be doing a suit if i were him, but i guess if the family is still up for it and brings in extra money for the family, i guess it's cool, but it's just ignorant to suspend/fire him for his own beliefs. he has beliefs just like the gays have beliefs
    Why would he bring a suit he wouldn't win? He doesn't have a right to a TV show, and I guarantee since he was suspended indefinitely that A&E isn't breaching any contracts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sammich View Post
    i'd be doing a suit if i were him, but i guess if the family is still up for it and brings in extra money for the family, i guess it's cool, but it's just ignorant to suspend/fire him for his own beliefs. he has beliefs just like the gays have beliefs
    he cant sue because they have a right to fire him. The only way he could sue is if he was smarter and said "I dont believe in Gay Marriage because of my religious beliefs". At that point A&E could be sued for infringing on his freedom of religion.

    The second he delved into the "I dont know what gay men like ass over vagina" he entered the realm of things he could be fired for cause, not free speech.

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    You are absolutely right Blank. He nor his family have any kind of right to a tv show. But there are discrimination laws that prevent one being fired or let go based on religious beliefs. If he had stated these same things on the show, that might be a strong case for dismissal, but alas he did not. He was asked a question about his opinion of a certain matter and gave it. It just so happens that his personal opinion is based off of his personal convictions and beliefs in his faith. To dismiss him or cancel his contract/suspend him from future filming based on his opinion given off camera and solely based and rooted in his Christian beliefs could very well be seen as discrimination of his religious beliefs...he may actually have a law suit...hell...people have sued and won with less.

    Let us be realistic though. A&E does not actually care about Phil's personal thoughts/beliefs on gays. He and his family are a cash cow for the network. This is a publicity stunt by A&E which will probably bring in even more viewers as this story makes national headlines. That is, if the Robertson's continue to do the show. I am hoping they stand to their convictions and walk away all together...that would be a nice slap to the face no?
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    They're not discriminating his religious beliefs. He could not sue and win. Not a chance in non-existent hell. They signed a contract. A&E has enough lawyers to keep their asses covered. They're not stupid.

    A&E will be ok without the Robertson's. And vice versa. I guarantee it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    They're not discriminating his religious beliefs. He could not sue and win. Not a chance in non-existent hell. They signed a contract. A&E has enough lawyers to keep their asses covered. They're not stupid.

    A&E will be ok without the Robertson's. And vice versa. I guarantee it.
    Something I completely agree with you on.

    A&E was covered with a clause that allows them to fire anyone they want for any reason they want. I am also sure there is a nice little separation package in there for Robertson as long as he doesnt screw it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    My sister is gay and I LOLed

    A&E has every right to fire him. Private company.

    But what he said wasnt hate speech. He said he didnt agree with gay marriage. Being gay isnt a civil right, its a sexual preference, like saying "i like blue over red".

    Surprised Blank is this ignorant.



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    Maybe now America can get back to reality. All this PC crap is getting old. As a Christian, it's nice to see a family like this stick to their beliefs. This is what true Christianity is about...not what the media says it is to be or from other whack job shows like Preachers of LA. God bless the Robertson's.



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    Breaking, he was reinstated, A&E caves.

    This will be interesting going forward
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    Blank should get a kick out of this one.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    Breaking, he was reinstated, A&E caves.

    This will be interesting going forward
    where did you hear this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 04sidriver View Post
    where did you hear this?
    I'm seeing the same thing on twitter. Apparently the family told them that without Phil, they're done with the show. Capitalism prevailed.

    Cracker barrel pulled all their DD stuff off the shelf for about 2 days before changing their minds also.

    Nice to see A&E using their freedom as a network to decide to keep a good family oriented program on the air. The world is a better place with Duck Dynasty still on TV and everyone lived happily ever after, wouldnt you agree Blank?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    I'm seeing the same thing on twitter. Apparently the family told them that without Phil, they're done with the show. Capitalism prevailed.

    Cracker barrel pulled all their DD stuff off the shelf for about 2 days before changing their minds also.

    Nice to see A&E using their freedom as a network to decide to keep a good family oriented program on the air. The world is a better place with Duck Dynasty still on TV and everyone lived happily ever after, wouldnt you agree Blank?
    still havent seen that anywhere

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    Quote Originally Posted by 04sidriver View Post
    where did you hear this?
    Inside source from A&E leaking it to the media

    Google Phil Robertson reinstated. Its all over google and twitter, mainly from right wing media outlets. Pretty sure the left wont report this yet, too damaging.

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    Where's the liberal outrage about this?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    Breaking, he was reinstated, A&E caves.
    OR, it was a ratings grab the whole time. The show tried to create controversy before. Seems this time they were more successful.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    The world is a better place with Duck Dynasty still on TV and everyone lived happily ever after, wouldnt you agree Blank?
    Right. That's exactly what TV is missing. A pseudo-reality TV show about the exploits of a family of "backwoods redneck" millionaires.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    Pretty sure the left wont report this yet, too damaging.

    Phil Robertson Returning to 'Duck Dynasty' in January?
    Pretty sure the "left" doesn't care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    Where's the liberal outrage about this?

    Freedom of speech, right?

    Right?

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    Question to Blank: Just curious to hear your personal opinion. Did you find the answers given by Phil to be hate speech against homosexuals? Did you find any of his answers/comments to be racist against blacks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by geoff View Post
    Question to Blank: Just curious to hear your personal opinion. Did you find the answers given by Phil to be hate speech against homosexuals? Did you find any of his answers/comments to be racist against blacks?
    Not as much hate speech as they were grossly inaccurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    Inside source from A&E leaking it to the media

    Google Phil Robertson reinstated. Its all over google and twitter, mainly from right wing media outlets. Pretty sure the left wont report this yet, too damaging.

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    him coming back in jan is for episodes he had filmed before. the suspension was for future episodes

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    Not as much hate speech as they were grossly inaccurate.
    Meaning?
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    Quote Originally Posted by geoff View Post
    Meaning?
    Meaning there was zero truth in what he was implying.

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    How so?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 04sidriver View Post
    him coming back in jan is for episodes he had filmed before. the suspension was for future episodes
    Not true, they start filming in January for more episodes , and the source says he is back in for those episodes. read the Access Atlanta article
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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    OR, it was a ratings grab the whole time. The show tried to create controversy before. Seems this time they were more successful.
    Yeah right, they got so much outrage from the target audience they had to risk losing the #1 rated cable tv show to a competing network, or , back down. They chose to back down. Their right, FWIW I dont think they had a right to back down, they should have stood their ground if they really felt the way they did.





    Pretty sure the "left" doesn't care.
    Proof?

    LOL they blew this story up, first reported it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geoff View Post
    Question to Blank: Just curious to hear your personal opinion. Did you find the answers given by Phil to be hate speech against homosexuals? Did you find any of his answers/comments to be racist against blacks?
    I think to myself, WHY THE FUCK WAS HE ASKED ABOUT GAY MARRIAGE ? Do I really care what he has to say? Why even ask it? It was a trap, they he fell into. he though he was being funny, but in reality, he should understand that hes representing the brand and the network he works for. His personal opinions are fine, but consequences follow actions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geoff View Post
    How so?
    What do you mean how so"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    Yeah right, they got so much outrage from the target audience they had to risk losing the #1 rated cable tv show to a competing network, or , back down. They chose to back down. Their right, FWIW I dont think they had a right to back down, they should have stood their ground if they really felt the way they did.
    Risk losing it? Lol. It's not like the Robertson's can just move to another network. Lol. They're under contract. A&E owns the Robertson's until they decide not to. Lol.

    A Facebook group, "Boycott A&E until Phil Robertson Is Put Back on Duck Dynasty," created last Thursday, has garnered more than 1.7 million likes.
    All I know is, there are 1.7 million people who are as brainless as the show they watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post

    Risk losing it? Lol. It's not like the Robertson's can just move to another network. Lol. They're under contract. A&E owns the Robertson's until they decide not to. Lol.
    You dont know how TV works, No advertisers, no show.

    You also dont know their contract. They could have left EASILY and gone to another network, there were already reports that AMC/FX among other major outlets were all waiting for word they were seperating from A&E.

    This was about money, A&E was about to lose a TON. Why else would they cave>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    I think to myself, WHY THE FUCK WAS HE ASKED ABOUT GAY MARRIAGE ? Do I really care what he has to say? Why even ask it? It was a trap, they he fell into. he though he was being funny, but in reality, he should understand that hes representing the brand and the network he works for. His personal opinions are fine, but consequences follow actions.
    You see it as a trap, something to be used against him by the " gays, blacks, socialists, left,ect.." and that he was suckered into it. Truth is, to him it was an opportunity to share what his faith teaches him and to do as Jesus commissioned...to go out into the world and share the gospel.

    Every action has consequences...that is how life works. He knew what he was saying and he stuck to his beliefs. I applaud him for doing so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post

    All I know is, there are 1.7 million people who are as brainless as the show they watch.
    People dont share the same opinion as you = Brainless. Just shows how biased you are and makes 100% total sense why you try to argue the way you do.

    I dont agree with their view, but differing opinions doesnt mean brainless.

    Wheres that civility your kind preaches about (lectures) all the time?
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    Blank: You stated "Meaning there was zero truth in what he was implying." I am confused as to whether you are referring to Phil or the interviewer from GQ.
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