Mel Watt promoted by Obama

[Browning151]

And cornered? No. Lol. This conversation is going exactly the way I wanted it.

Derailed, with you side stepping every direct question aimed at you? Yep, sounds about right.

[.blank cd]

Nope. Fielded every question that's been asked.

Unless sidestepping means not hand delivering the answers you want to hear.

[Vteckidd]

I already answered this. It's baffling that you haven't put 2 and 2 together

On second thought it really isn't.

I must have missed it (mainly because you are just being dishonest now). Here, should be easy for you to answer right now, i made it bolded and big for you to see. I want you to expand on comments you made, how would you ADJUST for these racially motivated voters?

Racially motivated voters should be adjusted for, yes.

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I'm not gonna answer it a 4th time if you're incapable or reading.

[Vteckidd]

I'm not gonna answer it a 4th time if you're incapable or reading.

then quote me where you answered. The only thing you said was some crap about hate crimes, which has nothing to do with your previous statement or this topic

[.blank cd]

Short of checking a box next to a ballot...

I'm more than well aware how impossible it is.

But

Its already being done to a certain degree.

The only realistic way to control racist voting is to make less racists able to vote. How do you do that?

You get all 50 states and DC to ratify hate crimes and make all hate crimes a class D felony (at the least)

[Vteckidd]

so all racists commit hate crimes or are guilty of hate crimes? You know what the definition of a CRIME is right?

What warped world do you live in?

Short of checking a box next to a ballot...
But



The only realistic way to control racist voting is to make less racists able to vote. How do you do that?

[Vteckidd]

So you have no answer, and you have no solutions, you were just being a troll. Got it.

[.blank cd]

There's one who admitted they can't read.

Anyone else?

Makes it a lot easier if you just post that you are incapable of reading and comprehension.

[Vteckidd]

Theres no correlation between HATE CRIMES and RACISTS WHO VOTE JACKASS.

If i stand on my front porch and yell "N*****" at the top of my lungs, I still have the right to vote, and you cant take it away. I committed no hate crime.

So, TRY AGAIN

[Vteckidd]

LOL at the communist saying he wants to take peoples voting rights away if they commit a hate crime, somehow i suspect that excludes black on white crime.

[.blank cd]

You already said you were incapable of reading. You don't have to tell me again what you don't understand. I already know.

Thank you though.

[Vteckidd]

You already said you were incapable of reading. You don't have to tell me again what you don't understand. I already know.

Thank you though.

Says the guy who cant argue his way out of a wet paper bag

Your answer is like saying you want to ban people who ride motorcycles because you once saw 1 who was speeding.

Speeding is a crime, owning a motorcycle isnt.

Being a racist is perfectly legal, committing a hate crime is not.

So, how you keep racists from voting, "adjusting" in your words, by making hate crimes a felony, doesnt solve anything you are bitching about. But, i dont expect a big govt supporter to understand that their "solutions" almost never address the problem anyway.

Do i need to dumbi t down for you even more:

How do you "ADJUST" for legal law abiding racists who vote

[.blank cd]

"How would you implement your hypothetical solution??"

Well I would....

"That's not reality Jackass. You're a communist"

....


LMAO

[Vteckidd]

"How would you implement your hypothetical solution??"

Well I would....

"That's not reality Jackass. You're a communist"

....


LMAO

would be relevant if you gave a real answer, but youre not. I asked a specific question, you gave a non specific answer on a different topic

How do you "ADJUST" for legal law abiding racists who vote

[.blank cd]

Says the guy who cant argue his way out of a wet paper bag

Your answer is like saying you want to ban people who ride motorcycles because you once saw 1 who was speeding.

Speeding is a crime, owning a motorcycle isnt.

Being a racist is perfectly legal, committing a hate crime is not.

So, how you keep racists from voting, "adjusting" in your words, by making hate crimes a felony, doesnt solve anything you are bitching about. But, i dont expect a big govt supporter to understand that their "solutions" almost never address the problem anyway.

Do i need to dumbi t down for you even more:

How do you "ADJUST" for legal law abiding racists who vote

Not bitching about anything.

A question was asked. I gave an honest answer. I'm not posting it a fourth time. You can read the other 3 times I posted it and spark a couple of brain cells together to understand it or you can give up. It's that simple. I won't post about it again

[Vteckidd]

Not bitching about anything.

A question was asked. I gave an honest answer. I'm not posting it a fourth time. You can read the other 3 times I posted it and spark a couple of brain cells together to understand it or you can give up. It's that simple. I won't post about it again

You realized you made a statement you cant defend, so you went off on some other tangent. nice try, but honestly it gets old these tactics you use. No problem, I made my point, and you just look foolish and uneducated.

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You're still talking about it. LOL

[David88vert]

The only realistic way to control racist voting is to make less racists able to vote. How do you do that?
"You get all 50 states and DC to ratify hate crimes and make all hate crimes a class D felony (at the least)"

Hate crimes are already a felony, and we do not let criminals vote until they have had their voting rights restored. We keep criminals from voting, not racists. Legally, you can be as racist as you want to be, as long as you do not break any laws, and there is nothing stopping you from voting, nor should there ever be. Beliefs are not criminal actions.

The moment that you remove someone's rights (any right) merely for the beliefs that they hold, rather than criminal actions, then you have gone down a slippery slope that does not follow the ideals that this country was created upon.

The truth is that you cannot "adjust" for people's beliefs without criminalizing people for their beliefs.

[Browning151]

So let me get this straight, you think people who vote for racial reasons should be "adjusted" for, or in other words, not allowed to vote.

Your solution for accomplishing this is to make all hate crimes a class d felony...

The only realistic way to control racist voting is to make less racists able to vote. How do you do that?

Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
You get all 50 states and DC to ratify hate crimes and make all hate crimes a class D felony (at the least)

So then how do you make the jump from hate crimes being a class D felony to voting with a racial bias is a hate crime?

What you have is an asinine, indefensible position that you have no logical way of explaining. You are essentially advocating restricting someones freedoms because of their ideology simply because you disagree with it. If that's your position, fine, but own up to it, don't sit here and attempt to obfuscate your position with double talk and non answers.

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Hate crimes are already a felony, and we do not let criminals vote until they have had their voting rights restored. We keep criminals from voting, not racists. Legally, you can be as racist as you want to be, as long as you do not break any laws, and there is nothing stopping you from voting, nor should there ever be. Beliefs are not criminal actions.

The moment that you remove someone's rights (any right) merely for the beliefs that they hold, rather than criminal actions, then you have gone down a slippery slope that does not follow the ideals that this country was created upon.

The truth is that you cannot "adjust" for people's beliefs without criminalizing people for their beliefs.

Are my posts not going through or something? Could you check that for me?

I could've swore I said I realize how impossible it is 4 or 5 times. Yet I'm still getting grilled on it.

Weird

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So let me get this straight, you think people who vote for racial reasons should be "adjusted" for, or in other words, not allowed to vote.

Your solution for accomplishing this is to make all hate crimes a class d felony...



So then how do you make the jump from hate crimes being a class D felony to voting with a racial bias is a hate crime?

What you have is an asinine, indefensible position that you have no logical way of explaining. You are essentially advocating restricting someones freedoms because of their ideology simply because you disagree with it. If that's your position, fine, but own up to it, don't sit here and attempt to obfuscate your position with double talk and non answers.

Yeah. My posts are definitely not going through. If I said I realize how impossible it is 6 or 7 times, surely someone would have read it. It can't be possible the entire group of posters is just that thick headed. Lol.

[Browning151]

So you think it's impossible, but you 100% agree with the ideology behind it.

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Is this thing on?

[Vteckidd]

Make inflammatory statement
Troll for 5 pages
Claim a position
never defend the position, make strawmen arguments and go off topic
Claim you never took a position in the first place
retreat
post again

Yup, seems about right

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Is there anyone in this section who read what I posted and isn't making things up?

Anyone?

[Echonova]

It can't be possible the entire group of posters is just that thick headed. Lol.

I'll coincide that point.





It's not possible.

[David88vert]

Are my posts not going through or something? Could you check that for me?

I could've swore I said I realize how impossible it is 4 or 5 times. Yet I'm still getting grilled on it.

Weird

No, I agree with you that it is impossible to implement in our current political climate - I just gave the clear answer as to why it should not be possible to implement in any political climate.
The mere fact that you even consider it is scary enough.

[.blank cd]

Is it really that scary? A lot of people don't think it is. There's been books written on this very topic, by Ivy League philosophy professors.

[ISAtlanta300]

I sure hope blankCD never leaves this section. I've never been so entertained on a Forum before. Keep 'em coming, Blank! I've never seen so much flip flopping since I went to Sea World.

[.blank cd]

Flip flopping? What did I flip on? Pretty sure I said what I believed and stuck to it. Not sure what you think flip flopping means. Lol

[Sinfix_15]

I sure hope blankCD never leaves this section. I've never been so entertained on a Forum before. Keep 'em coming, Blank! I've never seen so much flip flopping since I went to Sea World.

We should all get a pool going and buy him a gift card or something........ It really is quite impressive how he never loses steam even though he is the whipping boy and nearly every single fragment of his ideology gets thoroughly shutdown on a daily basis.

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I hope you see the irony in that.

And shutdown. LOL

[Sinfix_15]

I hope you see the irony in that.

And shutdown. LOL

I really dont. point it out for me.

[David88vert]

Is it really that scary? A lot of people don't think it is. There's been books written on this very topic, by Ivy League philosophy professors.

There are plenty of people that believe in horribly wrong things. You might remember that many people believed that blacks were just 3/5's of a person. Just because a lot of people think that it is ok, does not necessarily make it so.

I have not seen any articles by Ivy League philosophy professors advocating that we should change/adjust/remove the voting rights of people based upon their beliefs alone, such as racist tendencies. Please link these papers from 3 or 4 of these professors, so that we can see them.

[Echonova]

I really dont. point it out for me.

It's so obvious, you shouldn't need an Ivy league professor to point it out to you.


Because Ivy League professors are smart. Even blank knows this, even though he has never been to an Ivy League school. Ever.

[Browning151]

Ivy League professors are smart. Even blank knows this, even though he has never been to an Ivy League school. Ever.

Kudzu League...maybe...Ivy League...no.

[.blank cd]

There are plenty of people that believe in horribly wrong things. You might remember that many people believed that blacks were just 3/5's of a person. Just because a lot of people think that it is ok, does not necessarily make it so.

You do realize that's not what the three fifths compromise was, right?

[.blank cd]

And if you're interested in what other political philosophers think about the ethics of voting, you're more than welcome to research on your own. If you're interested in seeing what other people think, you will. But I think you should. Let's see how open minded you really are.

[Echonova]

And if you're interested in what other political philosophers think about the ethics of voting, you're more than welcome to research on your own. If you're interested in seeing what other people think, you will. But I think you should. Let's see how open minded you really are.

Challenge accepted... As long as you are willing to do the same.


You are a lot of things that I respect blank, but being open-minded is not one of those... Just sayin'