It will work, and staunch conservatives will say it was their idea the whole time. That's how they work. At least in the media. IRL, they typically work together to find a solution. Those are the kinda of things they don't tell you on Breitbart and Schiff blogs.Originally Posted by Vteckidd
False.Romneycare also wasnt the same, and it has bankrupted MA
‘RomneyCare’ Facts and Falsehoods
your opinion, but it wont work. you cant collect enough in taxes to pay for the care, its already been shown. If we ever get to single payer, you will see the economy implode, doctors retire, nurses and practioners pay cut, it would be disaster for the economy. Kind of like what we are seeing right now with Obamacare. Its hurting the economy, and shrinking hours for "poor"people, and terminating coverage. Everything it was deisgned to fix, its made worse.
Nice try
Single Payer System - Massachusetts & Vermont Consider Move Towards New HC Plan - Kelly File - YouTube
Romney care has failed to do anything it promised
Romneycare foretells Obamacare failures | The Detroit News
“Coverage for the uninsured in the state exchange was more expensive than estimated,” says Josh Archambault, director of Health Care Policy at Massachusetts’ Pioneer Institute, of 20 percent cost over-runs that necessitated tax hikes. To control costs, he adds, Massachusetts also doubled down on exchange regulation, reducing customers’ choices.
What’s more, Romneycare inflated state health premiums that were already among the nation’s highest. Which is to say, while Romneycare has failed to reduce costs, its residents were already paying for a heavily regulated system. Not so for the rest of America, which is now witnessing sticker shock as Washington imposes Massachusetts-sized costs on everyone. Michigan premiums for an average family will grow 12 percent, according to exchange data compiled by the Heritage Foundation. Indiana’s premiums rise 26 percent; Florida’s 25 percent.
Massachusetts’ health entitlement spending ballooned to 40 percent of its budget (and you thought Michigan’s 25 percent was out of control). But didn’t all this spending lead to universal health coverage in Massachusetts? No. The state already had an unusually low 6 percent of its population uninsured. Romneycare has cut that number in half, mostly with hundreds of millions in government subsides. But coverage is still not universal.
Meanwhile, access to health care has declined.
If Romneycare predicted Obamacare’s high costs, it warns of worse: growing physician shortages as regulations drive caregivers from the market. A 2011 survey “by the Massachusetts Medical Society reveals that fewer than half of the state’s primary care practices are accepting new patients, down from 70 percent in 2007,” reports Anne-Marie Turner, president of the Galen Institute. “The average wait time for a routine checkup with an internist is 48 days. It takes 41 days to see an OB/GYN, up from 34” in one year.
This doctor shortage, driven by poor government reimbursement for health services, also has increased hospital emergency room visits, contradicting Obama’s — and Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder’s — claim that Medicaid expansion will reduce uncompensated care. Just 53 percent of internists and 62 percent of family physicians, for example, will see Massachusetts Medicaid patients.
“Insurance rates have continued to increase with more mandates like fertility coverage,” says Paul Bachman, director of research for Boston’s Beacon Hill Institute. “So now the governor has approved price controls that dictate that health costs can’t increase more than inflation.” That means more doctor shortages.
From The Detroit News: Romneycare foretells Obamacare failures | The Detroit News
Also you like to look at small snapshots and I dont know if its not in your wheelhouse, but you look forward. Costs rising, subsidies growing, medicare spending up 2 billion. Its not a good system and has only increased costs
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Wow. The apocalypse will follow, fire, brimstone, the second coming of Christ, the final battle between good and evil, Cubs win World Series type of devastation, right?
LOL
Your claim that Romneycare has bankrupt MA was very false.Nice try
When Liberals dont understand that 2+2=4, its pointless.
You cant tax enough to pay for the single payer system, that is fact. we dont have to debate anything else, because itll always come back to paying for the single payer. Unless you want to go tell your poor people that they need to pony up another 10-15% in taxes to pay for govt healthcare.
Single Payer wont work, the country would collapse before that ever happened.
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Poor NHS Doctors. How are they possibly going to put food on the table with a meager $150,000 a year. Might have to play a really small violin here. LOL
"Salaried GPs who are part of a CCG earn between £54,319 to £81,969 dependent on, among other factors, length of service and experience."
Pay for doctors - NHS Careers
spoken like a guy who has never had a 6 figure job, or the education to obtain one.
When it costs you $100k to go to medical school, and your job dictates you make $300,000, 150k is not enough. But liberal like you dont understand that. You live in a world where cost and pay dont exist. Everything grows on trees that the rich provide to the poor
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A lot of people don't realize that 6 figures is not really a lot nowadays.
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