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    Obamacare Will Be Repealed Well In Advance Of The 2014 Elections - Forbes

    Don't know that I necessarily agree with him that it will be repealed that quickly, but he does make some good points about the political fallout.

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    I dont see it getting repealed at all. They will make changes, but not repeal it. The democrats wont give up that much power. It would be deadly to Hillary in 2016. Their only hope is to convince people that the "evil" insurance companies are standing in the way of total govt utopia and healthcare. Which, was kinda the goal all along.

    The Democrats will spin this that is the insurance companies that were offering "bad quality" insurance, and thats why they are losing their policies. The only hope is to turn to an entity that has your best interests at heart, the govt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    I dont see it getting repealed at all. They will make changes, but not repeal it. The democrats wont give up that much power. It would be deadly to Hillary in 2016. Their only hope is to convince people that the "evil" insurance companies are standing in the way of total govt utopia and healthcare. Which, was kinda the goal all along.

    The Democrats will spin this that is the insurance companies that were offering "bad quality" insurance, and thats why they are losing their policies. The only hope is to turn to an entity that has your best interests at heart, the govt.

    /FAIL
    I hope you're wrong...............

    but knowing what spineless immoral scumbag trash that democrats are, you're probably right.

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    They already are claiming the canceled policies are bad policies and the people would be better off without them.

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    Your taxes paid for this advertisement. Enjoy.....


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    Clinton calling on Obama to adhere to his promise and committment
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    doyougotinsurance.com

    Do you got insurance?

    Wow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    Your taxes paid for this advertisement. Enjoy....
    Do you live in Colorado?

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    That cant be a real ad. Must be a joke.

    WOW. I clicked the site and it looks legit. Are we sure this isnt someones ploy or farce?

    If that is real, just shows the complete lack of class society has come to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    Do you live in Colorado?
    Any tax dollars that goes to an ad like that is wrong.
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    Who cares? All three of y'all saw the ads, so it worked.

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    And it doesn't look like any tax dollars went into it at all. So there's that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    And it doesn't look like any tax dollars went into it at all. So there's that.
    Something tells me this is a joke. Or and ad campaign by someone who DOESNT like Obamacare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    And it doesn't look like any tax dollars went into it at all. So there's that.
    Not sure about that

    - Boston.com
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    Obamacare ads from Colorado Consumer Health Initiative | Radio Vice Online
    ObamaCare Ad: 'Hope He's As Easy To Get As Birth Control'
    Obamacare Ads Push 'Brosurance': 'Don't Tap Into Your Beer Money to Cover Those Medical
    Bills'

    http://michellemalkin.com/2013/11/13...-and-circuses/
    not that those are "reputable sources" by your standards, but sure looks like its taxpayer funded

    The “Got Insurance?” campaign is the lame brainchild of two “progressive” outfits with dubious nonprofit status: ProgressNow and the Colorado Consumer Health Initiative. Their previous claim to fame: a “Thanks, Obamacare” social media movement to propagandize praise and gratitude for the federal mandate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    That cant be a real ad. Must be a joke.

    WOW. I clicked the site and it looks legit. Are we sure this isnt someones ploy or farce?

    If that is real, just shows the complete lack of class society has come to.
    It's a real, tax payer funded website designed to promote Obamacare.......

    Obama himself is running around to every sports league and hollywood actor in America trying to get people to endorse Obamacare.... why would anyone be surprised by this? This is why Obama's sheeple love him. He appeals to lower class citizens..... that's why he's a democrat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    Something tells me this is a joke. Or and ad campaign by someone who DOESNT like Obamacare.
    I wish the Obama presidency was a joke..... but no, this is what our government has become.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    And it doesn't look like any tax dollars went into it at all. So there's that.
    False. Once again you pull shit out of your ass, put your own opinion on a pedestal and lie effortlessly. Congratulations.... you make democrats proud.

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    Not taxpayer funded. Sorry.

    In response to a barrage of Twitter inquiries Wednesday morning, two Colorado organizations responsible for controversial Obamacare advertisements said their private non-profit organizations have never received government funding.

    ProgressNow Colorado and Colorado Consumer Health Initiative, supporters of Colorado's health insurance exchange, both said the "Got insurance?" campaign was paid for with donations and individual contributions, like their organizations. They also denied association with state agencies.

    "I know some people are saying this is a taxpayer-funded campaign and that we're somehow connected to Connect for Health Colorado, but that is just not the case," said Amy Runyon-Harms, executive director of ProgressNow Colorado.

    The insurance ads made a stir on social media earlier this week. One ad that was targeted on Twitter features a woman flashing a thumbs up with one hand and holding a packet of birth control pills in the other. She is wrapped in a man's arm next to text that includes, "Let's hope he's as easy to get as this birth control."

    The advertisements, which also include keg stand and ski-shot scenes, debuted in October.


    Colorado Obamacare ads not paid for with state funds, backers say - The Denver Post

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    Thats a pretty frightening ad, to basically appeal to young people as booze induced , sluts/whores who only care about beer money and fucking.

    I would be outraged if i was in that demographic
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    False. Once again you pull shit out of your ass, put your own opinion on a pedestal and lie effortlessly. Congratulations.... you make democrats proud.
    You must feel like a jackass once again huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    Ok thats like saying PP doesnt use federal funds for abortions. Theres no real way to connect the tax payers to private donors. But , regardless, its a terrible ad
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    I honestly dont even care about how it's funded.....

    This is an ad campaign by democrats, designed in a way that they think reaches out to the American people, to get them to support Obamacare. This is an accurate representation of democratic values and is an honest look into the values of your avg democrat.

    There's no denying that tax payer money is being spent to promote Obamacare..... Obama himself is reaching out to athletes and celebs to endorse Obamacare.

    Why run from an ad that accurately represents democrat values? You have a problem with that ad Blank? if so, what's your problem with it?

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    lol...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    lol...

    That is funny.

    Probably fake, but funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy View Post
    That is funny.

    Probably fake, but funny.
    It's true.

    Probably the most non-bullshit post Sinfix has ever made in life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
    This is what I really find interesting.

    106k people signed up for Obamacare plans since the markets opened. According to Avalere Health, 444k signed up for medicaid. I just dont see the system staying afloat when you have medicaid outpacing private insurance by 4:1.
    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-...e-bright-spot/


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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    It's true.

    Probably the most non-bullshit post Sinfix has ever made in life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy View Post
    This is what I really find interesting.

    106k people signed up for Obamacare plans since the markets opened. According to Avalere Health, 444k signed up for medicaid. I just dont see the system staying afloat when you have medicaid outpacing private insurance by 4:1.
    Medicaid signups an early Obamacare bright spot - CBS News
    Medicaid is healthcare for the poor. With so many Americans out of work and/or taking part-time work... This is Obama's true legacy.




    And no surprise.


    With 49% of the population taking some sort of subsidy why would anyone think healthcare would be different?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Echonova View Post
    Medicaid is healthcare for the poor. With so many Americans out of work and/or taking part-time work... This is Obama's true legacy.




    And no surprise.


    With 49% of the population taking some sort of subsidy why would anyone think healthcare would be different?
    I know what it is, but if this ratio holds up it is unsustainable for even 1 year. Supporters say people wont go to the emergency room if they have insurance, but my second article pretty much debunks that talking point because it shows that even if they have insurance, they probably wont be able to find a doctor to see, sending them right back to the ER.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy View Post
    I know what it is, but if this ratio holds up it is unsustainable for even 1 year. Supporters say people wont go to the emergency room if they have insurance, but my second article pretty much debunks that talking point because it shows that even if they have insurance, they probably wont be able to find a doctor to see, sending them right back to the ER.
    I wasn't trying to say you didn't know what it was. Just trying to keep the explanations simple for the low-information people that stumble across this thread.


    But to your point. Obamacare is working exactly as intended. The whole system was designed to fail, just not this soon. I can't wait for next year when the employer mandate exemption goes away. The complaints we are hearing now are just a whisper of what's to come.

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    I just got my new insurance numbers this morning.

    Two years ago, I paid $250/month for my insurance plan with BCBS of GA - and it had slowly raised up to that price over the three previous years. That same plan is now going to be $758/month.
    If I am willing to change doctors, and use KP instead, then my cost will be just over $450/month.
    So much for the ACA helping keep the costs of health insurance down. When does the "affordable" part of the bill kick in?

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    In Washington D.C., on the LOCAL exchange (not the Healthcare.gov website), just five people enrolled even though officials spent $133,573,928 to set up the exchange. That's $26,714,785.60 per enrollee.
    Who is this supposed to be affordable for? Definitely not the taxpayers. I certainly doesn't see that the 47 million Americans that are uninsured are not lining up to sign up and pay for these new "affordable" insurance plans.

    You'll recall that every single Democratic lawmaker in both sides of Congress voted in favor of Obamacare. Think more about it and you'll remember that they voted to approve the bill without actually reading the bill first. Now, a group of about a dozen of them have given the White House until Friday to come up with a way for people to keep their health care coverage. Shouldn't they had made those changes through amendments before voting for the final bill. That's how our legislative system is supposed to work.

    So, what has Obamacare actually done so far? It fines people for not buying a product from a website that doesn't work right, and it has caused an upheaval where - under the pretense of ensuring that all Americans have health insurance - several million Americans who had health insurance wake up to find that they no longer do.

    In a Quinnipiac University poll released this week, only 19% of Americans say they believe the quality of their health care will improve in the next year, while 43% say it will get worse and 33% don't think it will impact their coverage one way or another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy View Post
    106k people signed up for Obamacare plans since the markets opened.
    And that number even includes people who have put a plan in their "shopping cart" but haven't actually checked out and purchased a plan. That's one way of trying to polish a turd I guess.

    I wonder what Amazons sales numbers would look like if they followed the same accounting model? Maybe we should start counting test drives as car sales too, I'm sure sales staff would love that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
    I just got my new insurance numbers this morning.

    Two years ago, I paid $250/month for my insurance plan with BCBS of GA - and it had slowly raised up to that price over the three previous years. That same plan is now going to be $758/month.
    If I am willing to change doctors, and use KP instead, then my cost will be just over $450/month.
    So much for the ACA helping keep the costs of health insurance down. When does the "affordable" part of the bill kick in?

    "You can keep your doctor (as long as you can afford the new higher rates)"
    Need a more reliable source than your word, seems biased

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    Quote Originally Posted by Browning151 View Post
    And that number even includes people who have put a plan in their "shopping cart" but haven't actually checked out and purchased a plan. That's one way of trying to polish a turd I guess.

    I wonder what Amazons sales numbers would look like if they followed the same accounting model? Maybe we should start counting test drives as car sales too, I'm sure sales staff would love that.
    Well damn......

    I guess i am signed up for Obamacare too then...





















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