No act of War OR Impeachment

[Elbow]

Well, there's about 50 videos i can post of Syrian Rebels doing things like this. It's official, we have already started arming these radicals. CIA-funded weapons begin to reach Syrian rebels - CNN.com I'm sure the president who is so fond of background checks made sure to background check all of these islamic terrorists before dropping off crates full of weapons. I'm sure it's all shotguns too, as Joe Biden suggested for americans.

You voted for these guys, hope you're proud.

Oh wow 50 YouTube videos?

Seems legit.

I didn't vote for Obama numb nuts.

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Oh wow 50 YouTube videos?

Seems legit.

I didn't vote for Obama numb nuts.

Video evidence is not legit now... hmm... interesting new development. While i agree that videos are not as conclusive as 1000+ year old re-translated textbooks, i find them somewhat credible.

[Elbow]

Video evidence is not legit now... hmm... interesting new development. While i agree that videos are not as conclusive as 1000+ year old re-translated textbooks, i find them somewhat credible.

Video can be legit, depending on who posted it and what the video really shows.

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Mmm. Conspiracy theories.

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Mmm. Conspiracy theories.

yeah, remember all those right wing republican conspiracy theories about Obama during the election.................

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Obama in the Muslim Brotherhood.....seems legit.

Anyone see this?!?!?! OMG THE END IS NEAR.

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Obama in the Muslim Brotherhood.....seems legit.

Anyone see this?!?!?! OMG THE END IS NEAR.

BREAKING: Egyptian Media Says Barack Obama Is Muslim Brotherhood Member

Why would this be a problem anyways? The Muslim brotherhood is just spreading the peace of Islam right? Wouldnt you view it as a positive thing if he was????

[Elbow]

BREAKING: Egyptian Media Says Barack Obama Is Muslim Brotherhood Member

Why would this be a problem anyways? The Muslim brotherhood is just spreading the peace of Islam right? Wouldnt you view it as a positive thing if he was????

The Muslim Brotherhood has a history of violence in some cases.

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The Muslim Brotherhood has a history of violence in some cases.

lol.... you're warming up to reality. This is a positive development and i commend you for making an effort to accept the truth.

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lol.... you're warming up to reality. This is a positive development and i commend you for making an effort to accept the truth.

I'm not nearly as blind as you think, I'm just more open minded to things and don't jump to conclusions or generalizations.

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yeah, remember all those right wing republican conspiracy theories about Obama during the election.................

Yep. All of which have been thoroughly debunked.

[Elbow]

Yep. All of which have been thoroughly debunked.

Just out of curiosity, has Obama ever done anything you don't agree with?

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Just out of curiosity, has Obama ever done anything you don't agree with?

A lot of things. But just because I disagree with them doesn't mean I can't understand them or why they're done.

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Yep. All of which have been thoroughly debunked.

LOL RIIIGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT.......... ...............................

I support Romney more now than i did before the election. Most people voted for Romney because he wasnt Obama, now in hindsight, Romney actually knew what was going on. We've already covered this topic..... every lie the president tried to paint Romney with, turns out Romney was right.

[Elbow]

A lot of things. But just because I disagree with them doesn't mean I can't understand them or why they're done.

Should we get involved with Syria?

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A lot of things. But just because I disagree with them doesn't mean I can't understand them or why they're done.

Can you help me understand why our government runs guns to drug lords, foreign dictators and terrorists groups?

Can you help me understand why the NSA spies on everyone in the US but not mosques?

Can you help me understand why we should pass bills to find out what is in them?

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I see no reason why the US can't drop some bombs on key targets in Syria. I just don't want any weapons handed to what could be Al-qaeda fighters nor want American boots on Syrian soil.

[Echonova]

I see no reason why the US can't drop some bombs on key targets in Syria. I just don't want any weapons handed to what could be Al-qaeda fighters nor want American boots on Syrian soil.

If Obama goes without the consent of the UN and unilaterally drops bombs on a country that poses no imminent threat to the US, he will have violated international law and could "technically" be brought up on war crimes. Not that it would happen. Our government can call it whatever it wants, but dropping bombs in another country is an act of war. As far as giving weapons to Al-qaeda it's too late for that...


Ambassador Stevens was running guns to them a year ago before the deal went south.

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Should we get involved with Syria?

A better question would be "why?"

[Elbow]

If Obama goes without the consent of the UN and unilaterally drops bombs on a country that poses no imminent threat to the US, he will have violated international law and could "technically" be brought up on war crimes. Not that it would happen. Our government can call it whatever it wants, but dropping bombs in another country is an act of war. As far as giving weapons to Al-qaeda it's too late for that...


Ambassador Stevens was running guns to them a year ago before the deal went south.

Just to be fair, we aren't giving weapons to Al-qaeda. Some of them may have relations with Al-qaeda and some may be 100% Al-qaeda but we didn't call up the chief Al-qaeda home boy and say "Ay y0 got some weapons comin y0 way."

A better question would be "why?"

Hahahaha I KNEW you'd have some empty reply and that it'd be a question.

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Just to be fair, we aren't giving weapons to Al-qaeda. Some of them may have relations with Al-qaeda and some may be 100% Al-qaeda but we didn't call up the chief Al-qaeda home boy and say "Ay y0 got some weapons comin y0 way."



Hahahaha I KNEW you'd have some empty reply and that it'd be a question.

Yes, we're giving weapons to Alqaeda. The US government does not discriminate in who they arm, unless it's their own citizens.


Blank is a moron, welcome to the party. Everyone else here already knows it.

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Hahahaha I KNEW you'd have some empty reply and that it'd be a question.

There's really not an answer to your original question that isn't a belief. There are reasons why we should, and there are reasons why we shouldn't.

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Blank is a moron, welcome to the party. Everyone else here already knows it.

Like I've said before, I'll take this as a compliment.

[Vteckidd]

To see Obama this weak is just devastating to the presidency. He has no idea what he is doing. Hes trying to win political points because thats all he knows how to do. He has no idea how to run foreign policy.

IMO, the people are getting it right, we should stay out of it, let them gas each other and have their civil war. If it spills across borders, let me know, until then, not our problem or fight. Our military is not designed to carry out half assed attacks, we either put troops on the ground and WIN, or we sit on the sidelines. Thats the only 2 options otherwise you get Vietnam/Iraq War.

Obama has never been serious about rooting out Terrorism and Islamic Extremists, so hes boxed himself into a corner now because he has to look like he cares when he really doesnt.

[Elbow]

Yes, we're giving weapons to Alqaeda. The US government does not discriminate in who they arm, unless it's their own citizens.


Blank is a moron, welcome to the party. Everyone else here already knows it.

Riggghhhhttttt.

There's really not an answer to your original question that isn't a belief. There are reasons why we should, and there are reasons why we shouldn't.

Yes there is, I'm asking what your opinion is. How is there no answer? You don't have an opinion?

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Yes there is, I'm asking what your opinion is. How is there no answer? You don't have an opinion?

I don't have a strong opinion either way. There are reasons why we should and reasons why we should.

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Yes there is, I'm asking what your opinion is. How is there no answer? You don't have an opinion?

To quote a former President...

"It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is."

I don't have a strong opinion either way. There are reasons why we should and reasons why we should.

So what you're saying is you see no reason why we shouldn't???

Lulz. :P

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Riggghhhhttttt.

Are you disputing the fact that we're currently arming terrorists?

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To see Obama this weak is just devastating to the presidency. He has no idea what he is doing. Hes trying to win political points because thats all he knows how to do. He has no idea how to run foreign policy.

IMO, the people are getting it right, we should stay out of it, let them gas each other and have their civil war. If it spills across borders, let me know, until then, not our problem or fight. Our military is not designed to carry out half assed attacks, we either put troops on the ground and WIN, or we sit on the sidelines. Thats the only 2 options otherwise you get Vietnam/Iraq War.

Obama has never been serious about rooting out Terrorism and Islamic Extremists, so hes boxed himself into a corner now because he has to look like he cares when he really doesnt.

Rooting out islamic extremists??? obama would argue that they dont exist.

“Islam has always been part of America”

“we will encourage more Americans to study in Muslim communities”

“These rituals remind us of the principles that we hold in common, and Islam’s role in advancing justice, progress, tolerance, and the dignity of all human beings.”

“America and Islam are not exclusive and need not be in competition. Instead, they overlap, and share common principles of justice and progress, tolerance and the dignity of all human beings.”

“So I have known Islam on three continents before coming to the region where it was first revealed”

“Ramadan is a celebration of a faith known for great diversity and racial equality”

“As a young man, I worked in Chicago communities where many found dignity and peace in their Muslim faith.”

”I look forward to hosting an Iftar dinner celebrating Ramadan here at the White House later this week, and wish you a blessed month.”

“That experience guides my conviction that partnership between America and Islam must be based on what Islam is, not what it isn’t. And I consider it part of my responsibility as president of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear.”

“I also know that Islam has always been a part of America’s story.”

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Again i go back to the root of the problem , that Radical Islamic Terrorism is much larger in the religion than it gets credit for. The "normal" muslims are not doing enough to root out the "radical" muslims.

We have radical Christians, but they dont dominate the general christian theology and members

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Again i go back to the root of the problem , that Radical Islamic Terrorism is much larger in the religion than it gets credit for. The "normal" muslims are not doing enough to root out the "radical" muslims.

We have radical Christians, but they dont dominate the general christian theology and members

The problem is that the "normal muslims" are the ones not following the Koran and the "islamic extremists" are the ones that are following the Koran.

What can normal muslims do to root out the radicals outside of not being muslims at all?

[Elbow]

Are you disputing the fact that we're currently arming terrorists?

No, I'm disputing the comments that were literally arming terrorist organizations, as I said, some weapons will get in the wrong hands but we aren't just arming terrorist as many love to say.

Don't take this as I support any of it because I think it's a joke.

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The problem is that the "normal muslims" are the ones not following the Koran and the "islamic extremists" are the ones that are following the Koran.

What can normal muslims do to root out the radicals outside of not being muslims at all?

No true Scotsman fallacy

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We have radical Christians, but they dont dominate the general christian theology and members

What do you mean by this? Violent Islamic extremists don't dominate anything. They are very much a minority.

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No, I'm disputing the comments that were literally arming terrorist organizations, as I said, some weapons will get in the wrong hands but we aren't just arming terrorist as many love to say.

Don't take this as I support any of it because I think it's a joke.

I got you, but dont you feel at least a little bit foolish when you say that? Our government, the most advanced country on the planet..... that devotes 100s of billions of dollars to intelligence....... is "accidentally" letting weapons slip into the hands of terrorists.

If theyre not evil, theyre ignorant. Either way, it's a bad scenario. My own opinion is that we need to quit giving the government the benefit of the doubt for the "mistakes" they make.

"Never give the government the benefit of the doubt, we cant afford it and they will never deserve it" - Rand Paul

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No true Scotsman fallacy

Ok Profit Blank (ignorance be upon him), we know this is a touchy subject for you.

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What do you mean by this? Violent Islamic extremists don't dominate anything. They are very much a minority.

Yes they do. The middle east is Earth's Chicago. Let's let democrats fix it.... they do so well with this type of thing state side.

[Elbow]

I got you, but dont you feel at least a little bit foolish when you say that? Our government, the most advanced country on the planet..... that devotes 100s of billions of dollars to intelligence....... is "accidentally" letting weapons slip into the hands of terrorists.

If theyre not evil, theyre ignorant. Either way, it's a bad scenario. My own opinion is that we need to quit giving the government the benefit of the doubt for the "mistakes" they make.

"Never give the government the benefit of the doubt, we cant afford it and they will never deserve it" - Rand Paul

Yes I think it's stupid beyond stupid. If there's a 50% chance we may arm a terrorist then we shouldn't even be considering it and I know it's more than a 50% chance. That's only one reason I don't think any of this should be on the table.

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