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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy View Post
    Of course not, but they were the only ones investigated.




    Can you find a mention of just 1 liberal group that received ANY scrutiny in this same time period? Can you find just 1 case in which a liberal group was sent one of these questionnaires? I havent heard a single one and I know for a fact that would have been speaking up loudly by now to try to prove it wasnt targeting. Can you explain why damn near every statement given by the IRS on this issue has turned out to be a lie? Can you explain why the IRS employee in Cinnci was acting under the direct orders of Carter Hull, who works in the DC office, yet everyone else from DC seems to know nothing about this?

    I could go on for hours about the IRS and no one can answer the questions because the IRS is stonewalling and/or flat out lying at every turn. Yet you still this this is just a little coincidence. Ignore the man behind the curtain.
    Don't forget the Barack H. Obama Foundation (started by Obama's half brother in Kenya) that Lois Lerner personally backdated the approval for over two years. Which she does not have the authority to do and is illegal. Well, unless you're a Obama supporter. After the Susan Rice promotion, this chick may have a cabinet post by the end of the week.


    May 9th 2011... The story broke. Malik Obama's 'Barack H. Obama Foundation' Raises Questions
    May 30th, 2011 Lerner got the paperwork, personally approved and illegally made it retroactive in less than a month. The Lois Lerner Defense | National Review Online

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    I saw it. Nothing in his post has contradicted what I've said.
    So, we have established that you cannot even comprehend what you type yourself. You have zero credibility when you can't even understand your own statements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
    So, we have established that you cannot even comprehend what you type yourself. You have zero credibility when you can't even understand your own statements.
    Gotcha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Echonova View Post
    Don't forget the Barack H. Obama Foundation (started by Obama's half brother in Kenya) that Lois Lerner personally backdated the approval for over two years. Which she does not have the authority to do and is illegal. Well, unless you're a Obama supporter. After the Susan Rice promotion, this chick may have a cabinet post by the end of the week.


    May 9th 2011... The story broke. Malik Obama's 'Barack H. Obama Foundation' Raises Questions
    May 30th, 2011 Lerner got the paperwork, personally approved and illegally made it retroactive in less than a month. The Lois Lerner Defense | National Review Online
    Like I said, I could go on for hours with the IRS. My favorite one though is a tea party group that actually did send the IRS a list of its major donors and very soon after that, that list made it into the hands of ProPublica, a left leaning Journalism organization.

    IRS released confidential info on conservative groups to ProPublica


    BTW, there is a group of Senators, both right and left, who are looking to bring Lerner back to the Hill to actually answer questions. She may have waived her 5th Amendment rights with her speech before her actual testimony. Also, she said she has done nothing wrong, why would someone who did nothing illegal need to protect them self from self incrimination?

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    Everyone, I think it'd be an important time to more heavily scrutinize inconsistent media/news articles that are in front of you.

    For example, here's the Washington Post's 5 most popular articles (Global):
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    It would also be a great time to scrutinize the apparent selective outrage going on.

    Since ACA became a thing, conservatives/republicans have actively voted to repeal it more than 30 times.

    The patriot act has been voted on one time. And that was to extend it.

    That is exactly the bullshit that highlights the radical partisan divide in politics. "Lets repeal everything Obama does because Obama did it and the news told me Obamas bad." Not "lets repeal everything that ACTUALLY infringes on our rights."

    ...but nothing will happen, the right will continue to bitch about tin-foil NSA phone tapping scandals--and at the same time--waste time voting again to repeal ACA next month. Gotta love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    It would also be a great time to scrutinize the apparent selective outrage going on.

    Since ACA became a thing, conservatives/republicans have actively voted to repeal it more than 30 times.

    The patriot act has been voted on one time. And that was to extend it.

    That is exactly the bullshit that highlights the radical partisan divide in politics. "Lets repeal everything Obama does because Obama did it and the news told me Obamas bad." Not "lets repeal everything that ACTUALLY infringes on our rights."

    ...but nothing will happen, the right will continue to bitch about tin-foil NSA phone tapping scandals--and at the same time--waste time voting again to repeal ACA next month. Gotta love it.
    1. Patriot Act has widespread bipartisan support. The only complaints you are seeing right now is the apparent expansion of programs that began with the Patriot act.

    2. Each and every criticism of Obamacare is looking to come true, yet you still think it is just about Obama. Maybe for just 1 second you can put your racial outrage to the side for a second and start looking at reality. Really think it, can you find a single significant reform made by Obamacare in which the negatives dont outweigh the positives?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy View Post
    1. Patriot Act has widespread bipartisan support. The only complaints you are seeing right now is the apparent expansion of programs that began with the Patriot act.
    Only complaints? LMAO. Have you been to the airport in the past 11 years?

    2. Each and every criticism of Obamacare is looking to come true, yet you still think it is just about Obama. Maybe for just 1 second you can put your racial outrage to the side for a second and start looking at reality. Really think it, can you find a single significant reform made by Obamacare in which the negatives dont outweigh the positives?
    Except they're not really coming true according to any and every non partisan study ever performed. No ones freedoms are being infringed. The only thing people are complaining about is the minor financial inconveniences. No ones complaining about the fact that women get increased coverage, sick people get increased coverage, kids get increased coverage, among a myriad of other positives.

    The patriot act has been actively putting boot to chin of the 4th amendment for the past 11 years, all for pseudo-patriotism, and yet not a single eye has flinched. We're too busy trying to shoot down female contraceptives coverage for pre-existing conditions, 36 times to be precise, because "OBAMASOCIALISUM IS BAD" while the rest of the industrialized world mocks us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    Only complaints? LMAO. Have you been to the airport in the past 11 years?
    What does the TSA have to do with the Patriot Act?

    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    Except they're not really coming true according to any and every non partisan study ever performed.
    Really? So prices arent going up? You can keep your insurance plan if you like it?



    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    No ones freedoms are being infringed. The only thing people are complaining about is the minor financial inconveniences.
    Really? What if I am healthy and would prefer to only have a major medical plan? Oh right, thats now illegal. "MINOR financial inconveniences"? You mean major financial penalties?



    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    No ones complaining about the fact that women get increased coverage, sick people get increased coverage, kids get increased coverage, among a myriad of other positives.
    What coverage that wasnt offered previously? I'm unaware of any. Either way, all of them can be summed up with one simple phrase. One that describes every other entitlement program in American. The cost is unsustainable.

    It isnt even a little bit of a surprise to anyone that used a little common sense that every year the 10 year estimates for Obamacare are ballooning. They used 10 years of taxes and penalties to offset the costs of 6 years of benefits. Next year you will see a 10 year estimate of over 2T and it will continue to grow from there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    It would also be a great time to scrutinize the apparent selective outrage going on.

    Since ACA became a thing, conservatives/republicans have actively voted to repeal it more than 30 times.

    The patriot act has been voted on one time. And that was to extend it.

    That is exactly the bullshit that highlights the radical partisan divide in politics. "Lets repeal everything Obama does because Obama did it and the news told me Obamas bad." Not "lets repeal everything that ACTUALLY infringes on our rights."

    ...but nothing will happen, the right will continue to bitch about tin-foil NSA phone tapping scandals--and at the same time--waste time voting again to repeal ACA next month. Gotta love it.
    lol but see those threads no one really cares about.

    I don't really post threads in politics too often, but when I do I guess it's something I consider to be serious:

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    anyone remember that big annoying animated stop sign at the top of the page a little over a year and a half ago,

    The big one that said STOP SOPA, PIPA, CISPA, etc I had that up on the top of the site for months. I eventually forwarded the link in the stop sign to SOPA/PIPA Petition: Sign this People after SOPA was shot down, but new ones were constantly being proposed.

    When I got in control of the site, I removed all of the sponsor ad banners and replaced them with that for 4 months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandomGuy View Post
    anyone remember that big annoying animated stop sign at the top of the page a little over a year and a half ago,

    The big one that said STOP SOPA, PIPA, CISPA, etc I had that up on the top of the site for months. I eventually forwarded the link in the stop sign to SOPA/PIPA Petition: Sign this People after SOPA was shot down, but new ones were constantly being proposed.

    When I got in control of the site, I removed all of the sponsor ad banners and replaced them with that for 4 months.
    Good guy Randomguy

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