The "Obama phone lady" speaks......
The thought that people actually take that man seriously is horrfying
He doesnt control what the woman, who worked for Obama's campaign, has to say. You do this often...... discredit a video based on who filmed it.Originally Posted by .blank cd
You discredit actual footage of Obama based on what TV show it airs on.
Spoiler alert..... even though Obama has said a lot of dumb shit..... dont expect the liberal media to give it any air time.....
You know who people shouldnt take seriously?????????
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When someone is wrong, they're wrong. Period. Alex Jokes has built a reputation around being an idiot, and he did it to himself. No one did it for him.
If fox news showed a live video feed of Obama speaking, you would discredit Obama's own words based on it being a fox news telecast. That is your problem. Everything in the video i posted is factual information, but you predetermined to discredit it based on the source. The liberal media refuses to give anything negative about Obama any air time whatsoever and then you lefties discredit any other source that isnt painted blue. Even when theyre showing actual video footage of Obama speaking.... its still a lie..... i guess this one we can agree on.... anytime Fox shows footage of Obama, lies are being told.
side note..... almost cut my fucking finger off just now when my spring compressor slipped, smacked my finger between the strut and brake dust cover. I usually like the "blood sweat and tears" to be figuratively.
What Obama said is not the issue. The issue is Mr. Jokes thinks what Obama said back in 2008, before he was elected, is somehow relevant in Alex's discussion today, in 2013, and Obamas 2nd term.
Opinion shows are not news. And I don't base my opinion on anyone else's opinion. Period. I know how to think for myself. Therefore, I don't subscribe to Alex Jones comedy hour at all. His opinion is not based in reality and he reminds people of that everyday.
So Obama's lies and false promises are either justified or those promises had an expiration date and do not apply anymore?
" i will never raise taxes on the middle class " Promise expires 2013
I wonder would Obama had been reelected if he had said "im gonna raise taxes across the board, let a US ambassador die, make it legal for you to be imprisoned or assassinated without a trial and seek to strip you of your 2nd amendment rights"
you know.... if he had been honest.
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They do not apply anymore. Conservatives begged for taxes to be raised, liberals didnt care one way or the other, so they were raised. What might work in 2008 may not work in 2013. We don't live in a static economy. Sorry.
Congress raised taxes BTW, not Obama. Sounds like you have beef with them.
Bush drafted the Patriot act, sound like you've got beef with him too
The ambassadors let the ambassadors die, not Obama. Sound like you've got beef with them too.
Your 2nd amendment rights are still very much intact. Even more so than they've ever been. Don't know what your beef is here.
I want a free cellphone
You mean a ReganClintonBushjrphone?
Blank, you can't see the forest for the trees. In the OP you clearly have a woman who was campaigning for Obama watch footage of his own words and say, "he lied to me." While Jones may have some crackpot theories and sound like a whacko most of the time, he wasn't the one in the video making false promises to garner votes. The lady watched Obama's own words and discerned for herself that he lied. BTW, since we don't have a "static economy" and "what worked in 2008 might not work in 2013" why did Obama make those promises? He didn't say "I'm not going to raise your taxes in my first term or as long as things stay the same, he said I won't raise them period, and he's done nothing but campaign for higher taxes since. But again, you can't see the blatant reality of his lies because the video was made by Alex Jones. The person asking the questions doesn't change the reality; a staunch Obama supporter watching videos of him and calling him out for what he really is.
I can't see the forest for the trees huh? LOL
In 2008, he campaigned for lower taxes, no one would see a tax increase. Period. He wins in 2009 and what happens? Taxes drop for more than 90% of Americans, including the two wonderfully intellectual citizens you see in the video.
In 2012, he campaigned on HIGHER taxes, conservatives bitched and bitched for higher taxes. "Pay down the debt! Pay down the debt!" they said. Obama won by a large margin on this campaign. What happens in 2013? Higher taxes across the board.
So you might want to reexamine exactly who can't see the forest for the trees. You'll find it ends up being the always talented Mr. Alex Jokes and his lovely guest Ms. ObamaPhone.
The only blatant reality I see is that this video and anything that comes out of his mouth is a joke that panders to the dumbest cross section of society.
If he promised no tax increases in 2008, before he was president, then in 2012, Romney wins and OKs tax increases, should it be ok to blame Obama for that? Why in the fuck would you think his promise meant anything further than his first term? LOL.BTW, since we don't have a "static economy" and "what worked in 2008 might not work in 2013" why did Obama make those promises? He didn't say "I'm not going to raise your taxes in my first term or as long as things stay the same, he said I won't raise them period, and he's done nothing but campaign for higher taxes since.
He promised no tax increases in his first campaign, taxes went down. Promise delivered.
He promised higher taxes for 2012, taxes went up, Promise delivered.
End of story.
Pay down the debt =/= Higher taxes.
I also don't subscribe to Jones and his crackpot theories, but that video is not one of them. A staunch supporter of Obama realizing that she was lied to is not a crackpot theory. The problem is, he was elected largely by people who are no more intelligent than "Ms. Obamaphone."
Why not, everyone still blames Bush.If he promised no tax increases in 2008, before he was president, then in 2012, Romney wins and OKs tax increases, should it be ok to blame Obama for that?
/sarcasm
Slightly OT, but what will Obama's legacy be in your eyes Blank? How will he be remembered 10-20-30 years from now?
Says who?
They will say 2008 was a year the United States took a medium sized step towards racial equality. While factually an average president, he will be remembered positively with his historical peers. Like Bush jr., his positive accomplishments toward humanity will go largely unnoticed and unremembered until you turn on the History channel 50 years from now and watch the special on Americas Greatest Presidents. Those that seeked to mar his reputation and paint him as a socialist communist foreign nationalist are slowly dying off so hopefully little of the baseless negativity will be passed down.Slightly OT, but what will Obama's legacy be in your eyes Blank? How will he be remembered 10-20-30 years from now?
That's the only solution you can come up with for paying down the debt, higher taxes? C'mon now.
Interesting.They will say 2008 was a year the United States took a medium sized step towards racial equality. While factually an average president, he will be remembered positively with his historical peers. Like Bush jr., his positive accomplishments toward humanity will go largely unnoticed and unremembered until you turn on the History channel 50 years from now and watch the special on Americas Greatest Presidents. Those that seeked to mar his reputation and paint him as a socialist communist foreign nationalist are slowly dying off so hopefully little of the baseless negativity will be passed down.
What else was there? Besides the fact that he won on campaigning on raising taxes on the rich, what else? Do you think they're really in a hurry to give up the US War Machine that's making them so much $$$? Don't think so. That's where a HEFTY portion of your "spending problem" lies, and they will milk that to the last drop.
You over simplified A LOT here. In 08 he campaigned on hope and change, nothing else. Honestly, he only had 2 things going for him and that was enough. He is black which brought out blacks in record numbers and pushed some purple to slightly red states in his direction. Second, he is a democrat. George Bush, combined with a terrible candidate in McCain made it easy.
In '12 is campaigned on making those evil greedy rich people pay higher taxes, which he didnt really do. What he did do was allow a tax break to expire for the people he claims to represent, those that cold afford an extra 2.3% in taxes the least. Not to mention his policies driving up energy costs, further hurting the lower class.
In '08, taxes didnt go down. Congress passed and he signed a tax holiday, they are not the same thing. Then in '09, when he signed Obamacare, he raised taxes on everyone.
Says everyone with even a slight understanding of tax history. I've explained this and I have posted up the stats before, but over the last 50+ years tax increases have lowered govt revenue while tax cuts have raised it. This was true under both GOP and Dem Administrations.
BTW, a tax increase that cuts even 25% of the deficit would throw the economy into a tailspin that would make us envious of the great recession.
PS, Obama himself has proposed spending the money from tax increases, not lowering the deficit, which makes this entire line of thinking pointless.
If anything, the US has stepped backwards racially and the president is a big reason why. He is by far the most divisive president of the last 100 years because of the comments he has made and the actions of his administration. When only speaking of race, I can think of 3 different times Obama or Holder has stepped in it. 1. Black Panther voter intimidation. 2. The professor that got himself arrested. 3. Trevon Martin would look like his son.
How about cutting back on the useless spending and pork? How about not creating another massive unfunded handout program? How about revamping one or both of the other 2 main drivers of our deficit spending?
Want to hear a great stat? HHS could hire 10k fraud investigators and pay them 100k a year. If they root out and stop just 20% of the fraud in SS and Medicare/Medicaid, the US would save more money over a decade that Obama's tax increases will bring in.
I expanded on what the video said. How is that simplified?
As you can see in the aforementioned video, he clearly campaigned on more than that.In 08 he campaigned on hope and change, nothing else. Honestly, he only had 2 things going for him and that was enough.
Are you saying that the video is BS, and that taxes really didnt go up like he claimed?In '12 is campaigned on making those evil greedy rich people pay higher taxes, which he didnt really do. What he did do was allow a tax break to expire for the people he claims to represent, those that cold afford an extra 2.3% in taxes the least. Not to mention his policies driving up energy costs, further hurting the lower class.
In '08, taxes didnt go down. Congress passed and he signed a tax holiday, they are not the same thing. Then in '09, when he signed Obamacare, he raised taxes on everyone.
Not always though, so correlation /= causation.Says everyone with even a slight understanding of tax history. I've explained this and I have posted up the stats before, but over the last 50+ years tax increases have lowered govt revenue while tax cuts have raised it. This was true under both GOP and Dem Administrations.
Since economists say the deficit and the national debt isn't an issue, I guess he's really not concerned with paying it down.PS, Obama himself has proposed spending the money from tax increases, not lowering the deficit, which makes this entire line of thinking pointless.
Sorry, this is demonstrably false. In 1919, Woodrow Wilson opposed a Japanese racial equality treaty due to strong opposition by southern racists, and was very much himself a segregationist, at a time where blacks were effectively disenfranchised all the way back to 1912. FDR nearly annexed an entire race of people in the United States of America in 1942(consequently enough, through an executive order), and for a short time, Harry S. Truman was literally a card carrying member of the Ku Klux Klan. Since I can only go back 100 years, I can't tell you that half the presidents up until Lincoln were slave owners.If anything, the US has stepped backwards racially and the president is a big reason why. He is by far the most divisive president of the last 100 years because of the comments he has made and the actions of his administration.
So no. He's not the most racially divisive president of the last 100 years. Just because you think he made what conservative pundits deemed a "racially divisive" comment, you forget that not a single U.S. president until the 1960's did anything about legally separating white people from black people and utter systematic voter disenfranchisement. Lol.
I will remember it as a year when minorities valued a trophy to represent the equality they already had and they were willing to lie, cheat, rob and steal to obtain it. In doing so, they elected the least qualified and least deserving president in the history of our country.
Curious, to what evidence to you believe that the hatred of Obama is dying off? It's natural for Americans to hold disdain for someone who seeks to crumble the foundations of American principles.
The contempt comes from older people, 60s, 70s and up, who have been convinced by someone else that Obama seeks to crumble the foundations of American principles, when in reality, he really hasn't. You poll 18-50 year olds, there is overwhelming support for Obama. Probably because this group is largely more educated.
Actually he was most qualified, twice in a row. Lol.
The video i posted shows how educated Obama's base is. You throw out these numbers as facts when the actual facts would show the exact opposite. The demographic who most overwhelmingly supports Obama ranks lowest in education and highest in crime rate.
Winning a popularity contest does not mean you're qualified. Obama is the least experienced and qualified president in history.
So you believe this lady is uneducated, and that she represents the majority of Obama voters? If she's so uneducated, why do you take what she says seriously?
I expect you to deliver these facts. Good luck. Lol. I'll deliver the ACTUAL facts after you give it a shot. Unless somehow you get it right. HeheheYou throw out these numbers as facts when the actual facts would show the exact opposite. The demographic who most overwhelmingly supports Obama ranks lowest in education and highest in crime rate.
We know how you feel, bro. We know. Lol
The only demographic that overwhelmingly supports Obama is black people......
You really want to make a societal comparison?
Fact, more white people voted for Obama than black people. Still wanna make a societal comparison? I don't wanna hear about support, because you've already agreed we can't quantify "support". There are people that voted for Romney that support Obama. Lets go with actual numbers
Go.
More white people voted for Obama because there are more white people. Black people are the demographic that supports Obama nearly 100%......... the only demographic that certain with their support.
The demographic with the most "problems" in society is the demographic that is most united in their support of Obama.
Blank, where do black people rank in..........
High school graduation
College attendance
College graduation
Number of engineers
Number of doctors
Number of lawyers
Population of prison
But you would be wrong. So what does that have to do with anything?
There are more white people in prison
There are more white people on probation
There are more white people on welfare
There are more white people receiving government assistance.
There is a higher percentage of the black population in prison, probation, and an even percentage of blacks to whites on public assistance due to indigence.
There is still a higher percentage of white people receiving government assistance for any reason.
We know all this
Now. How about those facts that say Obama voters are less educated. Did you find those yet?
Unfortunately, aside from the prison population, none of these is a good litmus test for problematic individuals
Who were those guys that didn't go to college and ended up becoming billionaires? Something something iPhone, something something operating system....
You're too smart to be this stupid™
White people are 72% of the population...... while they SHOULD be at the top of every category, they are not.
Black people have the lowest HS graduation rate.
Black people have the lowest college attendance rate.
Black people have the lowest college graduation rate.
Black people have the fewest % in any major career field.
Black people have the highest crime rate.
Black people make up the majority of the prison population.
Black people have the lowest collective IQ of any race inhabiting the planet.
Black people overwhelming support Obama. Almost 100% of black people who voted, voted for Obama. It is what it is.
Who was that white guy that never passed 9th grade and ended up becoming a millionaire, something something one of the greatest rappers to grace the mic....
Now that we're shimmied off topic some, those facts....
Ok, so name the self made billionaire black geniuses of the world....
go...
So what? Even if 100% of the black population voted for Obama, he still go more of the educated voters. Period. It's indisputable.
Hitler had a higher approval rating than Obama. Support doesnt validate.
I didnt watch any videos. They are 99.9% BS and .1% selectively edited to fit an predetermined conclusion.
Look at the taxes that are higher and tell me how is affect most.
2.3% higher payroll taxes with the end of the holiday
4.2% higher taxes on the top income bracket
5% higher capital gains taxes
Tell me who is MOST affect by each of those taxes.
Actually it is always. A tax increase has NEVER resulted in higher tax receipts. The answer is actually really simple as to why. The higher the tax rate, the more time and money people spend to get that amount down. If I ahd a flat 10% tax rate, I probably wouldnt spend $200 getting my taxes done by a pro, I would just pay it. Because I have a MUCH higher tax rate, I spend the money and only pay about 8%.
I though it was obvious from day 1 he didnt care about paying it down. For every economist that says they dont matter, you can find one that says it does matter. Think of it this way, as the debt increases, it costs more and more to service that debt. How much more can we borrow before the cost to service the debt limits the govts ability to actually perform the functions is it Constitutionally obligated to perform?
Sorry, this is demonstrably false. In 1919, Woodrow Wilson opposed a Japanese racial equality treaty due to strong opposition by southern racists, and was very much himself a segregationist, at a time where blacks were effectively disenfranchised all the way back to 1912. [/quote]
Race relations were so pitiful at the turn of the century this had no effect on them. Also, because of the way the news was basicly limited to newspapers and the general illiteracy within the population, 99% of the population probably never even know about it.
Overwhelmingly popular move at the time because of the hatred and distrust for the Japanese. I do think it was a stupid move though as I dont think more than a couple japanese spies were ever captured. It does go to show that FDR was a little too trusting of J Edgar Hoover. JEH was also a borderline paranoid that saw spies around every corner.
Also responsible for integrating the military as president.
You have yet to prove he isnt the most racially divisive president of the last 100 years. All you did was point out that some previous presidents did nothing to improve them. Obama is actually creating uncalled for tension. The fact that you dont think his comments were not purposefully divisive shows you will go to any length to protect your view of Obama. What other reason would Obama have saying the Providence Police "acted stupidly"? Oh, this was after he said he didnt know the details. Why am I not surprised Obama was the one proven to have acted stupidly? How about the voter intimidation in PA? Why else would Holder drop the charges when the case was already won? With the help of NBC, the Martin case was already very racially charged, why did he comment about Martin 'looking like his son'? The only reason for that would be to rile people up even more.
This is what happens. When you lose so much ground in an argument, you resort to comparing Obama to Hitler. Read a couple books man. Dayum.
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