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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    I dont see the connection between guns and violence... sorry. Humans are violent, guns are just the current technology.
    Don't act stupid. I don't care how much you love guns, you can't say guns are not related to violence. Is the controller the real cause? OF COURSE. Guns don't shoot people on their own. My comment was solely directed to the picture of the guy with a rifle on his back. Not guns in general. All I said was I thought that was extreme and wouldn't want that to become the norm. Why? It throws violence straight into our faces, that gun owner may not be violent, but many would connect that person carrying the gun as a form of self protection and be reminded of the violence we live in today.

    I simply wouldn't want my kids to be reminded of all the bad, they wouldn't be shielded from guns, but they wouldn't need to see people carrying rifles in a Wal Mart checkout line. That's MY OWN opinion and I won't budge, do I care if someone carries? Hell no! Not at all, I was speaking purely on carrying a rifle around on your back like a paranoid tool or a douche making a point.

    If that makes me some type of gay non-American leftie than that's fine. I don't really care or classify people into groups based on their own political views. We all see things differently, if you can't respect others opinions, than don't expect to be heard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simontibbett View Post
    Don't act stupid. I don't care how much you love guns, you can't say guns are not related to violence. Is the controller the real cause? OF COURSE. Guns don't shoot people on their own. My comment was solely directed to the picture of the guy with a rifle on his back. Not guns in general. All I said was I thought that was extreme and wouldn't want that to become the norm. Why? It throws violence straight into our faces, that gun owner may not be violent, but many would connect that person carrying the gun as a form of self protection and be reminded of the violence we live in today.

    I simply wouldn't want my kids to be reminded of all the bad, they wouldn't be shielded from guns, but they wouldn't need to see people carrying rifles in a Wal Mart checkout line. That's MY OWN opinion and I won't budge, do I care if someone carries? Hell no! Not at all, I was speaking purely on carrying a rifle around on your back like a paranoid tool or a douche making a point.

    If that makes me some type of gay non-American leftie than that's fine. I don't really care or classify people into groups based on their own political views. We all see things differently, if you can't respect others opinions, than don't expect to be heard.
    If the basis of your argument is on the perception of violence, where does it stop? video games? movies? tv? graphic t shirts? tattoos? what other "reminders of violence" would we get rid of?

    While i do not disagree that the guy carrying an AR15 into a JCPenny is a douchebag.... i also recognize that an attack on anyone's freedom is an attack on everyone's freedom. We cant remove freedom based on perception and opinions. Also, these are issues that can be sorted out on a state and public level..... laws that suit New York, might not suit Alaska. I doubt anyone would blink if someone walked into a gas station in alaska with an AR15 on their back, so why allow the federal government to blanket us with restrictive regulations. Let the people/state decide what is best for them.

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