Drug testing and entitlements.

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Originally Posted by .blank cd

Any kind of government handout? Be very careful how you answer that.

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Any kind of hand out where your capable of working to earn said hand out. I'm not talking about veterans pay, military pay ect.

I got an $8000 handout last year from the government, and I have all those things. Should I not be able to vote?

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Originally Posted by .blank cd

I got an $8000 handout last year from the government, and I have all those things. Should I not be able to vote?

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Hes not educated enough to know the difference between Handout and Abuse or program. Really not worth arguing with him

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Originally Posted by .blank cd

I got an $8000 handout last year from the government, and I have all those things. Should I not be able to vote?

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There's a return on the $8000 you received for an education. There's no return on the investment when we simply pay people to sit at home and have 5 kids.....

well... i take that back.... that's 5 new voters for the big D.

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Originally Posted by Sinfix_15

There's a return on the $8000 you received for an education.

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It didnt have anything to do with school

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Originally Posted by .blank cd

It didnt have anything to do with school

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I assumed that's what you were talking about. No need to have a guessing game, tell me what your assistance was and i'll comment.

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Originally Posted by Vteckidd

Hes not educated enough to know the difference between Handout and Abuse or program. Really not worth arguing with him

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No one is arguing with me I simply posted a picture. Why do you feel the need to follow me all around the forum like my little lost puppy ?

because you post about stuff you clearly arent smart enough to understand

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Originally Posted by Vteckidd

because you post about stuff you clearly arent smart enough to understand

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Yeah and you're because who said so ? How do you know I don't ? Maybe I choose not to post about this kind of stuff because I could care less. Posting about politics will never Chang anything. It's a waste of time to babble about shit you or I can't change. I posted a picture that I thought people on here may get a laugh out of. Why so serious ?

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Originally Posted by .blank cd

So if a guy with a family that has a low paying job that smokes a joint once in a while with his friends, should be kicked off welfare, and that's a cop out?

Why single out weed when alcohol and cigarettes are demonstrably more dangerous and more addictive and demonstrably affects job performance more adversely?

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it's not an argument of whether you think weed is good or bad, it's the fact that weed is illegal and the law states it. these welfare recipients know the legality of the drug before they do it.

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Originally Posted by E36slide

No one is arguing with me I simply posted a picture. Why do you feel the need to follow me all around the forum like my little lost puppy ?

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Follow you around the forum????

This is a section where vteck posts regularly and generally has a highly valued opinion. Something that will never be said about you.

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Originally Posted by E36slide

Yeah and you're because who said so ? How do you know I don't ? Maybe I choose not to post about this kind of stuff because I could care less. Posting about politics will never Chang anything. It's a waste of time to babble about shit you or I can't change. I posted a picture that I thought people on here may get a laugh out of. Why so serious ?

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then go away and find something to put mustache duct tape on.

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Originally Posted by Sinfix_15

Follow you around the forum????

This is a section where vteck posts regularly and generally has a highly valued opinion. Something that will never be said about you.

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And? Every where I post he goes out of his way to make some kind of smart ass remark. I don't care if y'all ever value my opinion. I don't know any of you personally so that doesn't mean anything to me.

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Originally Posted by Humphrizzle

it's not an argument of whether you think weed is good or bad, it's the fact that weed is illegal and the law states it. these welfare recipients know the legality of the drug before they do it.

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What's your point? If its because its illegal, should I be kicked off welfare for getting a speeding ticket? Or jaywalking? Both of those are illegal.

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Originally Posted by Sinfix_15

then go away and find something to put mustache duct tape on.

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You wanna hear something funny.....

In two weeks when I reveal what my coupe looks like its going to put your old one to shame. Mustache duct tape and all. (:

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Originally Posted by E36slide

You wanna hear something funny.....

In two weeks when I reveal what my coupe looks like its going to put your old one to shame. Mustache duct tape and all. (:

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two weeks from now you will find out why the cheap fiberglass shit you're buying is cheap. Best thing you can do is invest in a camera that will hide your shitty rattlecan paint job.

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Originally Posted by E36slide

And? Every where I post he goes out of his way to make some kind of smart ass remark. I don't care if y'all ever value my opinion. I don't know any of you personally so that doesn't mean anything to me.

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Everyone comments to you because everyone reads what you say and thinks to themselves.... "god this kid is a fucking moron"

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Originally Posted by .blank cd

What's your point? If its because its illegal, should I be kicked off welfare for getting a speeding ticket? Or jaywalking? Both of those are illegal.

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if you're not a troll, you're the stupidest person i have encountered.

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Originally Posted by .blank cd

What's your point? If its because its illegal, should I be kicked off welfare for getting a speeding ticket? Or jaywalking? Both of those are illegal.

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There's levels of crime. Obviously there's a gap between jay walking and burglary or murder. One characteristic that separates weed from speeding or jay walking is that weed is a luxury that you are consuming while at the same time you're saying that you need government help because you cant afford to take care of yourself.

If i make $250k a year but cant afford to buy food because i have 9 car payments and own 3 boats.... that doesnt mean the government should feed me. That's the point of everyone mentioning smart phones and rims..... if you went door to door in the housing projects..... you'd find that almost every person there owns a smart phone and half of them will have a tahoe on 22s parked outside. A lot of these people are in the situation theyre in because of the way they prioritize. Food>smart phone.... food>rims.... food>cable.... food>big screen tv..... you cant spend your money on everything you want and then expect tax payers to provide you with everything you need.

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Originally Posted by Sinfix_15

Everyone comments to you because everyone reads what you say and thinks to themselves.... "god this kid is a fucking moron"

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Ok... But I didn't say anything or type anything I posted a pic on your favor or anyone else who thinks people should be drug tested before they receive gov hand outs.

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Originally Posted by E36slide

Ok... But I didn't say anything or type anything I posted a pic on your favor or anyone else who thinks people should be drug tested before they receive gov hand outs.

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Originally Posted by Humphrizzle

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...psf90ccc10.png

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Ah yes another annoying fuck trying to be cool by talking shit to me. Cool story bro...

Somebody need to pay for my 15 kids...... | Facebook

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Originally Posted by RandomGuy

Somebody need to pay for my 15 kids...... | Facebook

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All jokes aside.... someone with 15 kids would probably receive well over 100k/year in government assistance.

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Originally Posted by Sinfix_15

All jokes aside.... someone with 15 kids would probably receive well over 100k/year in government assistance.

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yep... because someone needs to "be held accountable"

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Originally Posted by Sinfix_15

if you went door to door in the housing projects..... you'd find that almost every person there owns a smart phone and half of them will have a tahoe on 22s parked outside.

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It's these sort of statements that make it hard to have a reasonable discussion about welfare issues. I've never seen a housing project that was surrounded by a lot of nice late model cars. Is there abuse in the system? Yes, but the characterization that everyone or even the large majority of people recieving welfare are somehow living opulent lifestyles is a gross overstatement.

I would rather pay more to have them all drug tested than have any drug users on welfare.

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Originally Posted by gtsxtt

I would rather pay more to have them all drug tested than have any drug users on welfare.

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Why?

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Originally Posted by Humphrizzle

if you're not a troll, you're the stupidest person i have encountered.

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Heh, didnt see this...

You make no argument for drug testing welfare recipients, then call me stupid when I tell you why its stupid and that theres zero logic behind it? Good job bro. You do well in this section for not knowing anything.

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Originally Posted by Sinfix_15

There's levels of crime. Obviously there's a gap between jay walking and burglary or murder. One characteristic that separates weed from speeding or jay walking is that weed is a luxury that you are consuming while at the same time you're saying that you need government help because you cant afford to take care of yourself. .... you cant spend your money on everything you want and then expect tax payers to provide you with everything you need.

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Except a drug test doesn't tell you if someone spent their money money on a luxury. Drugs are often shared.

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Originally Posted by gtsxtt

I would rather pay more to have them all drug tested than have any drug users on welfare.

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Out of curiosity, are there any other hoops you would like welfare recipients to jump through or is drug testing the only one you feel is currently missing?