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    Default Benghazi... After today's revalations...

    So who will be the first scape goat sacrificed? I'm guessing Hillary.


    Or do you not believe the documents released by our Government because they were only reported on by Fox News... Or "Faux News" as you liberals like to call them.



    Discuss. I need hilarity today.

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    synopsis?


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    Quote Originally Posted by l Gizzy l View Post
    synopsis?
    Seriously...




    It's too long to type and even if I did you wouldn't read it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Echonova View Post
    Seriously...

    It's too long to type and even if I did you wouldn't read it.
    google it is!

    Been at work all day.


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    Link?

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    Bullshit Filter Mode:

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    I'm goin in....

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    not just fox news but cnn confirmed it too. just to show he was caught in his lie when even the liberal media stops covering your ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatty View Post
    not just fox news but cnn confirmed it too. just to show he was caught in his lie when even the liberal media stops covering your ass.

    If this actually hits the airwaves and the general public sees it Obama is done. His legacy will be no better than that of Nixon.

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    Jimmy Carter is more like it.

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    Serious question: What do you believe Obama's role in this incident is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    Serious question: What do you believe Obama's role in this incident is?
    That he was fully aware of and participated the planning and execution of the cover up. Basicly the same place as Nixon was in the Watergate cover up.


    I dont believe he was made aware of the requests for additional security or for refusing additional support. I do believe Clinton and Panetta are criminally responsible for the 2 deaths at the Annex. There is no way 7 hours was not enough time to get air support or even a small security force into Benghazi.

    In the end, Obama is still responsible because he is the top of the chain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    Serious question: What do you believe Obama's role in this incident is?
    If Obama didn't know... A whole host of people need to be fired if not in jail. If Obama knew and didn't care, well that's another matter entirely. It's hard to believe a President could hear that a man he asked to serve as an Ambassador was under attack, ordered no support to be given and went to bed and attended a fund raiser the next day. Defies logic. But within 30 minutes of the panic button being pressed the advisor standing next to the President would have known. I'm inclined to believe he knew. These documents were just the non-classified redacted emails, there would have been (at least) two other layers of communication with one being IM's (military IM's are not like Yahoo messenger, receipt is acknowledged and logged) going through AFRICOM (4 star general and regional commander). Trigger authority would have gone to him if POTUS, VP etc down through the chain were unavailable.

    They were told to stand down.


    Sad part is, that even if these SEAL's had survived they would have been court-marshaled anyway.

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    At that point, they called again for military support and help because they were taking fire at the CIA safe house, or annex. The request was denied. There were no communications problems at the annex, according those present at the compound. The team was in constant radio contact with their headquarters. In fact, at least one member of the team was on the roof of the annex manning a heavy machine gun when mortars were fired at the CIA compound. The security officer had a laser on the target that was firing and repeatedly requested back-up support from a Spectre gunship, which is commonly used by U.S. Special Operations forces to provide support to Special Operations teams on the ground involved in intense firefights. The fighting at the CIA annex went on for more than four hours — enough time for any planes based in Sigonella Air base, just 480 miles away, to arrive. Fox News has also learned that two separate Tier One Special operations forces were told to wait, among them Delta Force operators.
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    Hmmm. It's always interesting to figure out why people believe the things they believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    Hmmm. It's always interesting to figure out why people believe the things they believe.
    By this comment it sounds like you still believe it was a protest over a video that went crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    Serious question: What do you believe Obama's role in this incident is?
    Obama not having a role in this incident is a failure in itself.

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    ruh roh.....


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    FIRST GOD DAMN SENTENCE OF THE ARTICLE: "Rumor? Could be, but it sounds plausible enough"

    WHY?? This is not news. This is bullshit circulated by a propaganda machine passed off as news, which is evidenced by the FIRST DAMN SENTENCE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    FIRST GOD DAMN SENTENCE OF THE ARTICLE: "Rumor? Could be, but it sounds plausible enough"

    WHY?? This is not news. This is bullshit circulated by a propaganda machine passed off as news, which is evidenced by the FIRST DAMN SENTENCE.

    Dismissed.
    You cant just read everything with the mindset of "quick, how can i dismiss this"

    You dont know that this is "bullshit circulated by the propaganda machine".

    Tell me where this story does not line up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    Tell me where this story does not line up.
    "Rumor? Could be, but it sounds plausible enough"

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    They must also be the purveyors of this quality journalism


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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    "Rumor? Could be, but it sounds plausible enough"
    Ok, and what will you say when the rumors become testimonies?

    WHAT IF...............?

    Just curious, what is your explanation for these events? Tell me a scenario in which Obama would not be to blame?

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    General Ham stepped down because his wife is terminally ill. Although he was in the Pentagon when the attack was underway, so he had to have been aware... His "stepping down" is not some elaborate Obama plot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Echonova View Post
    General Ham stepped down because his wife is terminally ill. Although he was in the Pentagon when the attack was underway, so he had to have been aware... His "stepping down" is not some elaborate Obama plot.
    You mean to tell me everything that happens ISNT some masterful elaborate scheme to frame Obama? Then what did I make this tin foil hat for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    You mean to tell me everything that happens ISNT some masterful elaborate scheme to frame Obama? Then what did I make this tin foil hat for?
    Everyone knows the tinfoil blocks the NAS brain-wave reading machine. You must wear the hat before you can be told the real truth about Democrats without alerting the authorities to our position. If they ever figure out we are in the Atlanta area we're done for.


    Put on your hat, I'm going to PM you a secret coded message.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Echonova View Post
    Everyone knows the tinfoil blocks the NAS brain-wave reading machine. You must wear the hat before you can be told the real truth about Democrats without alerting the authorities to our position. If they ever figure out we are in the Atlanta area we're done for.


    Put on your hat, I'm going to PM you a secret coded message.
    BESURETODRINKYOUROVALTINE


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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    They must also be the purveyors of this quality journalism

    These types of magazines have broken dozens of scandal stories over the last few years. If I remember correctly, they are the ones that broke the John Edwards and Elliot Spitzer scandals.


    You didnt answer my question though. Do you believe the attack on the Consulate was a protest over a video that went overboard? This was the administrations official stance for nearly 2 weeks, starting the evening after the Rose Garden speech.

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    I'm not going to claim I know the details of what really happened but if the CIA was in constant communication with people on the ground at the embassy, why do you think they would refuse to help? Unfortunately, I'm sure it will be a long time before all the details will be available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy View Post
    You didnt answer my question though. Do you believe the attack on the Consulate was a protest over a video that went overboard? This was the administrations official stance for nearly 2 weeks, starting the evening after the Rose Garden speech.
    I believe it is whatever it is. If its a calculated terrorist attack that capitalized opportunistically off of the situation, then that's what happened. But until the details are released, we won't know. I think it's highly implausible that the CIA refused to send help, an if someone in fact did order them to stand down, I'm sure there was a reason. I think it's not only premature, but also unpatriotic and rather insulting to politicize the death of these military soldiers in order to try and find a reason to smear the president.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bu villain View Post
    I'm not going to claim I know the details of what really happened but if the CIA was in constant communication with people on the ground at the embassy, why do you think they would refuse to help? Unfortunately, I'm sure it will be a long time before all the details will be available.


    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    I believe it is whatever it is. If its a calculated terrorist attack that capitalized opportunistically off of the situation, then that's what happened. But until the details are released, we won't know. I think it's highly implausible that the CIA refused to send help, an if someone in fact did order them to stand down, I'm sure there was a reason. I think it's not only premature, but also unpatriotic and rather insulting to politicize the death of these military soldiers in order to try and find a reason to smear the president.
    I know I'm not going to convince either of you to change your mind. All I will say is that the proof is out there and confirmed. Take the time and read it then ask yourself if he is someone that can be trusted with the responsibilities of the office he holds.

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    Here-say and rumors won't change my mind

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    Here-say and rumors won't change my mind
    Cold hard proof and truth doesn't change your mind either - you've shown that previously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
    Cold hard proof and truth doesn't change your mind either - you've shown that previously.
    Don't think I've ever denied something in the face of cold hard truth. If you could reference a case where I have ill gladly clear up any misconceptions you might have. Still haven't seen that in this case anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy View Post
    I know I'm not going to convince either of you to change your mind. All I will say is that the proof is out there and confirmed. Take the time and read it then ask yourself if he is someone that can be trusted with the responsibilities of the office he holds.
    Actually you could. Currently I haven't made up my mind if there was any wrong doing because I don't know enough information. There is definitely some fishy things going on but I don't have the information to make a solid conclusion either way. If you have that solid information, it could sway me. I'm not planning to vote for Obama so whether I trust him or not isn't all that relevant.

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    And the plot thickens.

    CIA Director David Petraeus resigns, cites extramarital affair - U.S. News



    Odd timing dont you think?

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    Guy runs a top secret clandestine organization

    ...gets caught having an affair?

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