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    Quote Originally Posted by bu villain View Post
    I think you are a little off the beaten path with that definition of tyrant. What makes Karl Marx any more of a tyrant than Adam Smith by your definition?
    Don't expect a serious answer to this. He doesn't understand who Karl Marx or Adam Smith is. Fox News says they're socialist communist tyrants and that's all that matters to people like him.

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    Admin caught in a big lie. They lied about what was changed and deliberately hid info. Someone is going to take the fall for that.

    IRS acting rogue, now DOJ implicated in new scandal going after HOR but not senate. HOR IS GOP CONTROLLED.
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    No need to worry, the Government will get to the bottom of all this and deal with the infidels... Nothing to see here.

    After Benghazi, IRS tea party probe: Govt seized AP phone records

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    Admin caught in a big lie. They lied about what was changed and deliberately hid info. Someone is going to take the fall for that.

    IRS acting rogue, now DOJ implicated in new scandal going after HOR but not senate. HOR IS GOP CONTROLLED.
    Chicago politics at its finest.
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    No need to worry, the Government will get to the bottom of all this and deal with the infidels... Nothing to see here.

    After Benghazi, IRS tea party probe: Govt seized AP phone records

    Obama and his admin need to be very careful here. He is pushing the press that loves him so much WAY beyond anyone has ever pushed them. I have heard reporters on both the left and right say the same thing, dont lie to the press, dont try to bully the press. Push them too far, they will push back. With everything going on with the House GOP, he needs the press to stay firmly in his corner, the last thing he needs is the press digging up dirt on their own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    How do you oppose something you don't understand?
    Says you. My respect for your opinion dwindles by the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bu villain View Post
    I think you are a little off the beaten path with that definition of tyrant. What makes Karl Marx any more of a tyrant than Adam Smith by your definition?
    "When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there is liberty."

    "Single acts of tyranny may be ascribed to the accidental opinion of a day; but a series of oppressions ... too plainly prove a deliberate, systematical plan of reducing us to slavery."

    "I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man."

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    I look at it like this. A cat in the wild can hunt it's own food and sustain itself. It doesnt need anything but it's own ability to survive. I take a cat as a pet, feed it, take care of it, declaw it. This cat doesnt try to escape, it comes to it's food bowl and otherwise stays where i keep it. This cat, now domesticated, would not make it in the wild if i released it. If it had kittens, they wouldnt even know what the outside is. They would be completely unaware that they are my pets and would think being locked inside my house and fed in a bowl by me is normal, just the way life was suppose to be. Ultimately, i now control this cat and this cat's survival is heavily reliant on me continuing to take care of it.

    Force is not the only means of oppressing someone, nor is it the most effective. Karl Marx's ideology is oppression. He tried to convince people that the food bowl was better than the wild. As our government grows in power, it steadily tries to convince you that you need less power. The fact that some people agree with them and are happy staying on the couch with a food bowl doesnt make it any less oppressive.

    "every form of tyranny over the mind of man"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    Says you. My respect for your opinion dwindles by the day.
    I'm asking you a question. How do you oppose something you don't understand?

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    I'm asking you a question. How do you oppose something you don't understand?
    I understand. It's the infatuation with your own opinion that leads you to believing anyone who doesnt agree with you is ignorant. It's you who cant see the forest for the trees. You're the worst kind of fool, a delusional one.

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    So you think i dont understand socialism?

    but if somehow i magically had the brain power of the almighty and all knowing Blankcd so that i could fully understand socialism and all of it's glory that there's absolutely no way humanly possible that i could still be opposed to it?

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    in before the "you dont want police, fireman or a military?" argument begins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    So you think i dont understand socialism?

    but if somehow i magically had the brain power of the almighty and all knowing Blankcd so that i could fully understand socialism and all of it's glory that there's absolutely no way humanly possible that i could still be opposed to it?
    No. I don't think you understand what socialism is.

    What I mean is how do you oppose something when you don't know what it is you're opposing?

    How do you support something when you don't know what it is supporting?

    Do you think because the all knowing pundits give you a quick rundown on what socialism is, that its actually what they say it is? What have you read by Karl Marx or John Keynes do you particularly disagree with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    No. I don't think you understand what socialism is.

    What I mean is how do you oppose something when you don't know what it is you're opposing?

    How do you support something when you don't know what it is supporting?

    Do you think because the all knowing pundits give you a quick rundown on what socialism is, that its actually what they say it is? What have you read by Karl Marx or John Keynes do you particularly disagree with?
    If i based my opinions on what the media had to say, i'd be an Obama leg humping sheep just like you. I know Karl Marx is one of your heroes, i can only imagine how offended you must be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    If i based my opinions on what the media had to say, i'd be an Obama leg humping sheep just like you. I know Karl Marx is one of your heroes, i can only imagine how offended you must be.
    Thank you for avoiding the question. That's all I needed to know.

    Just for clarities sake, since you don't base your opinion on what the media has to say, what is your opinion on what happened in Benghazi, with respect to Obamas involvement?

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    Thank you for avoiding the question. That's all I needed to know.

    Just for clarities sake, since you don't base your opinion on what the media has to say, what is your opinion on what happened in Benghazi, with respect to Obamas involvement?
    Benghazi happened a long time ago..... right?

    Obama is an incompetent fool who was never fit to be president in the first place. He said and done whatever was needed to obtain power and will say and do anything to keep it. I don't believe Obama is innocently unaware of all the scandal taking place around him, but even if he is..... that shows he is, at the very least, incompetent. Obama valued being re-elected over anything else, he would have told any lie or covered up any self diminishing truth to make that happen. Like you and most every other liberal in existence, you think your reality is worth lying for. That the ends justifies the means. You don't care if you have to lie to get your way as long as you get your way. I think Obama's hands are on everything, but he has no shortage of people willing to take the fall for him. Given the degree that this administration has safeguarded itself, even though they claimed to be "the most transparent government in history", it may take a while for the full truth to come out..... if it ever does. Even though Obama himself is a worthless sack of shit, the truth may stay hidden simply to protect the position of president. Hopefully the next president does a good job of helping us forget this black mark on american history (No pun intended).

    I dont think an american embassy gets attacked without the president being notified. I think whatever conversation happened was on behalf of protecting the campaign and not the ambassador.

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    Gotcha. And how did you come to this opinion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    Gotcha. And how did you come to this opinion?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    This is probably very close to the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    This is probably very close to the truth.
    You hear what you want to hear anyways, might as well cut to the chase and feed your elitist perception of anyone who disagrees with you. One day you will realize that you were on the wrong side of history and hopefully when that day comes you will remember all the times that i called you a fool and come to realization that i was right.

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    A recap of Jay Carney's press conference


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    Eric Holder just hung himself................................


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    Washington Post

    Not exactly fox news
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    The EPA and IRS scandals are going to motivate people to abolish Obamacare. This is what absolute power does to a govt.
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    Quoted from the article

    "What I don’t like to even consider … is that because of the Obama interview … the IRS put a target on me.
    Can I prove it? At this time, no."

    Dismissed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    Washington Post

    Not exactly fox news
    Not Fox News. Somehow worse

    What is it about the president calling the benghazi attack an act of terror that the collective right refuses to understand? Do they want the "ism"? How many times does he have to call it an act of terror before they realize he called it an act of terror? Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    Quoted from the article

    "What I don’t like to even consider … is that because of the Obama interview … the IRS put a target on me.
    Can I prove it? At this time, no."

    Dismissed.
    The burden of proof now lies on the government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    The burden of proof now lies on the government.
    How do you figure that? Reporter made the claim. The burden of proof rests on him. Plain and simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    How do you figure that? Reporter made the claim. The burden of proof rests on him. Plain and simple.
    you seem to have missed the part where the IRS has admitted to this, so let me bring you up to date on current events. The IRS has admitted to this.

    We're all aware that you're "ride or die" Obama.... but watch what is about to start happening.... realizing this ship is sinking and with nothing politically to be gained by sticking by Obama's side, everyone is about to start lifting the curtain and distancing themselves from this buffoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    you seem to have missed the part where the IRS has admitted to this, so let me bring you up to date on current events. The IRS has admitted to this.
    Ok. From all the articles Ive read, the IRS hasn't admitted anything. An apology is not an admission of guilt. So the IRS has admitted to targeting this particular reporter? And he still says he can't prove it?

    Hmmmmmm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    Ok. From all the articles Ive read, the IRS hasn't admitted anything. An apology is not an admission of guilt. So the IRS has admitted to targeting this particular reporter? And he still says he can't prove it?

    Hmmmmmm.
    With the "most transparent government in history" fighting relentlessly to keep all of their dirty secrets, secrets.... how would one go about proving this? Obama's administration has gone to great lengths to remove anyone's power to pin anything on them. That way they can sit on their perch and call everyone a liar.

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    They finally made the mistake of biting the hand that feeds them................................ the liberal media has glorified this shit president since day one.... ignored his failure and supported his lies....

    Now theyre gonna start asking the questions they should have been asking for 5 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    With the "most transparent government in history" fighting relentlessly to keep all of their dirty secrets, secrets.... how would one go about proving this? Obama's administration has gone to great lengths to remove anyone's power to pin anything on them. That way they can sit on their perch and call everyone a liar.
    I'm sure all these conservative bloggers and pundits and "reporters" and "journalists" with their aptitude for "uncovering the truth" should have no problem proving it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    "When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there is liberty."...I look at it like this. A cat in the wild can hunt it's own food and sustain itself....
    That's all fine and good but writing about a system which you believe would lead to tyranny if enacted, does not make the writer a tyrant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    I'm sure all these conservative bloggers and pundits and "reporters" and "journalists" with their aptitude for "uncovering the truth" should have no problem proving it.
    I'm sure the truth will be easy to find with the government being so willing to cooperate with this truth seeking mission.

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    The Washington Post is now turning on Obama Admin because the lies are so bad, they cant ignore them anymore. Did you read the article I linked you too? Hes boxed himself into a corner and you cant see it. Its kinda funny.

    He cant say its a Youtube video, then claim he said it was a terrorist attack, or vice versa. He knows he cant because his underlings are now all being questioned because someone lied outright about what happened that night. THey lied about changing the talking points, they lied about what caused this attack and who did it.

    The question remains, WHY?
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    The IRS , DOJ, an EPA are now all being implicated in operating in a political manner , this is Chicago Politics at its finest. This is what the Obama machine has always been about
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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    Ok. From all the articles Ive read, the IRS hasn't admitted anything. An apology is not an admission of guilt. So the IRS has admitted to targeting this particular reporter? And he still says he can't prove it?

    Hmmmmmm.

    Actually they have.
    IRS admits to improperly targeting conservative groups - latimes.com

    Is the LA Times liberal enough for you to believe it or do I need to go further left to find a source you will believe?

    I find this article very telling. NBC is actually making excuses for the IRS, saying that manpower was the reason for the added investigations.
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    Proof that the IRS was acting in a political manner, thus proving it wasnt a couple low level employees trying to save time.
    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...ve-journalists

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    ^^^ I didn't bother to read the article. Because I completely understand taking on additional work when I'm already over-worked and under-staffed. Makes total sense.

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